Re: Rearranging folders

2010-05-29 Thread MFPA
Hi


On Saturday 29 May 2010 at 6:37:57 PM, in
, Jim Kyle wrote:


> It's manually actuated for me, since I only open the
> Archived account when I need to look something up or do
> housecleaning.

The messages still move into the Archived account when it isn't 
opened, don't they? 


>  And it's a different filter for each
> folder, which is the tedious part of setup.

Yes, sounds just as tedious as editing deletion properties in lots of
folders.


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Re: Rearranging folders

2010-05-29 Thread Jim Kyle
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On Saturday, May 29, 2010, at 12:23:37 PM, MFPA wrote:

> Is that a manually activated or an automatic filter?
> What is the rule? (Age is greater than X days?)
> Is it different filter for each folder you archive, or is there some 
> way of expressing the destination folder so that you can use the same 
> filter for multiple folders?

It's manually actuated for me, since I only open the Archived account when
I need to look something up or do housecleaning. And it's a different
filter for each folder, which is the tedious part of setup.The rule is "age
greater than X days" with the X chosen to reflect the traffic in each
folder. Some are 30 days, others are 365, and most everything in between.

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Re: Why TB Takes So Long To Queue Messages

2010-05-29 Thread Tim Hamm
Hello Tim,

Saturday, May 29, 2010, 9:34:02 AM, you wrote:

> Hello Knappi,

> Friday, May 28, 2010, 12:40:17 AM, you wrote:

>> Tim Hamm schrieb:
>>> I am
>>> convinced it definitely has to do something with TB on my computer but
>>> what that is is very annoying to say the least.

>> www.sysinternals.com

>> do get process monitor and check what's going on.



>> 
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> Wow, that's a lot of information... what utility do you think I should
> try to try and figure my TB issue?


Never mind... that's what happens when you don't have your coffee in
the morning... duh

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Re: Rearranging folders

2010-05-29 Thread MFPA
Hi


On Saturday 29 May 2010 at 3:31:55 PM, in
, Jim Kyle wrote:


> I have a similar situation, and adopted the passworded
> "archived account" solution suggested by MFPA but with
> some slight differences: rather than moving entire
> folders, I've created folders of similar but not
> identical names under the archive account,

My formula is forAccount 1/Folder 1
to be backed up to   Archive Account/Account 1/Folder 1



>  and created
> filters in the Sorting Office to move messages 

Interesting; I never thought of using filters - probably because MAU
suggested the method using alternative deletion settings in the folder
properties just when I was thinking about how best to archive old 
messages. 

Is that a manually activated or an automatic filter?
What is the rule? (Age is greater than X days?)
Is it different filter for each folder you archive, or is there some 
way of expressing the destination folder so that you can use the same 
filter for multiple folders?



> from the
> currently selected folder to the similarly named one in
> the archive account. Actually I don't move ALL
> messages, 

Nor do I on a regular basis. Jack said he found the controls for
moving folders around to be very cumbersome, and I have sometimes
found it easier to move the contents around rather than the folder 
itself. Of course, if the folder has lots of messages they take a 
while to move. (-;



> just those older than 6 or 12 months, so that
> I retain my correspondence history while keeping the
> current working folder relatively uncluttered.

Mine vary from 2 weeks to 2 years, but the principle is the same.



> This does require a bit of tedious effort to set up
> initially, 

Quite a bit if you archive many folders, but definitely well worth the 
effort.


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Re: Why TB Takes So Long To Queue Messages

2010-05-29 Thread Tim Hamm
Hello Knappi,

Friday, May 28, 2010, 12:40:17 AM, you wrote:

> Tim Hamm schrieb:
>> I am
>> convinced it definitely has to do something with TB on my computer but
>> what that is is very annoying to say the least.

> www.sysinternals.com

> do get process monitor and check what's going on.



> 
> Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html


Wow, that's a lot of information... what utility do you think I should
try to try and figure my TB issue?

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Re: Rearranging folders

2010-05-29 Thread Jim Kyle
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On Saturday, May 29, 2010, at 7:04:35 AM, Jack wrote:

> The Work folder has many accounts that change often. Overtime, some
> need to be archived. If I renamed the folders, I would be in same
> situation of having to move a large number of accounts the other way.

I have a similar situation, and adopted the passworded "archived account"
solution suggested by MFPA but with some slight differences: rather than
moving entire folders, I've created folders of similar but not identical
names under the archive account, and created filters in the Sorting Office
to move messages from the currently selected folder to the similarly
named one in the archive account. Actually I don't move ALL messages, just
those older than 6 or 12 months, so that I retain my correspondence history
while keeping the current working folder relatively uncluttered.

This does require a bit of tedious effort to set up initially, but once
that is done it's quite easy to automate the actual cleanup process...

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Re: Rearranging folders

2010-05-29 Thread MFPA
Hi


On Saturday 29 May 2010 at 1:04:35 PM, in
, Jack wrote:


> The Work folder has many accounts that change often.
> Overtime, some need to be archived. If I renamed the
> folders, I would be in same situation of having to move
> a large number of accounts the other way.  


Fair enough. It was just a thought. 

I see no real option other than putting in the work to do it manually
now, but I'd suggest setting things up to archive automatically in
future.

Rather than moving the folders themselves to "Archive" it might be
less fiddly to select all messages in the folder and use "copy to
folder" or "move to folder" to put all the messages into a new
duplicate folder at the Archive location.

One way to achieve the automation is to use "folder-specific deletion 
settings" (Alternative deletion, move to specified folder, use 
alternative deletion for purging) in conjunction with "keep messages 
in base for X days" and "On exit...remove old messages". All of those 
are in "Folder Properties" (but not in the case of Inbox, Outbox, Sent 
Mail, and Trash folders).

I would suggest placing your archive folders in a password-protected
account. Then if the archive grows large, it doesn't slow down TB!
except when you open that account to view your archived messages.

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Re: Rearranging folders

2010-05-29 Thread Jack
M> If you are moving lots of folders like "Folder A" from "Work" to
M> "Archived" and not leaving many behind, why not change the name of 
M> "Work" to call it "Archived", then create a new "Work" folder and move
M> back the small amount that's necessary?

The Work folder has many accounts that change often. Overtime, some
need to be archived. If I renamed the folders, I would be in same
situation of having to move a large number of accounts the other way.



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