Re: occasional filter failures + missing data
Hallo Avram, On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 21:58:22 -0500GMT (21-10-2012, 4:58 , where I live), you wrote: A> However, within the past 5-6 months, I have observed that a small A> number of messages for those accounts do not get filtered with each A> mail download and remain in an account's inbox until I use the A> re-filter tool to properly distribute those messages. In each case, A> the non-filtered messages belong in the last active folder (or A> folders) in the list of that account's folders. Are those pop3 or imap accounts? In case they're imap accounts, you could consider deleting the imap cache. You're using v4.2.44. Have you considered upgrading to v5.0.36 that's the last version that should work with a v4 license. (http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/archive_versions/) Is the laptop that accesses the same message base using the same version? It's using the same message base, is that by using the same mail directory or is it using a local mail directory with some extra pointing to specific account folders? -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator: Subspecies of God, native to Fidonet. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.3.1 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Folders
Hello Roger, >>> 2. Is it possible to enable messages from many different mail >>> accounts to be copied into the virtual folder? > M>> Yes, no problem in that. The VF doesn't need to be a Common VF to do it. > Thank you for this, I had never realised that one could link a virtual > folder to more than one ordinary folder or archive. Let me just clarify one thinkg, for you and for Avram, just in case. Messages are never *copied* to Virtual Folders, they are just *displayed* as if the actually were in the folder, that is why they are called *virtual*. Messages shown by a VFs are actually and only in one or more physical folders from one or more accounts. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.3.2.3 (BETA) My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Folders
Hello Miguel, Monday, October 22, 2012, 7:14:54 PM, among other things, you wrote: >> 2. Is it possible to enable messages from many different mail >> accounts to be copied into the virtual folder? M> Yes, no problem in that. The VF doesn't need to be a Common VF to do it. Thank you for this, I had never realised that one could link a virtual folder to more than one ordinary folder or archive. -- Best regards, Roger :flag-SouthAfrica: The Bat! v5.3.2.3 (BETA) POP3, on Windows 7, version 6 1, build 7601 and Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Folders
Hello Avram, > I would appreciate it if someone could explain to me how virtual > folders work in The Bat. Perhaps a simple way of describing Vfs is seeing them as a "window" that looks into as many physical folders as you wish, and displays only the messages that meet the criteria you specify in the Filter of the VF. Create a VF, then right click on it and select Properties and in the bottom left of the dialog you can select that folders you want the VF to look at and monitor. And if you select Filter, specially if you select 'Advance filter settings' you can set up the conditions the messages to be displayed must meet, very similarly as you do in Sorting Office filters. > 2. Is it possible to enable messages from many different mail > accounts to be copied into the virtual folder? Yes, no problem in that. The VF doesn't need to be a Common VF to do it. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.3.2.3 (BETA) My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Folders
AS> I would appreciate it if someone could explain to me how virtual folders work in The Bat. AS> 1. For example, is it possible to set up a rule that copies AS> every incoming message in a mail account to two folders: one AS> folder based on some criteria, such as subject, mailing list, etc, AS> and one folder that receives all messages. The latter folder AS> would allow all messages that come in at one time to be more AS> easily viewed that hunting for them among a couple dozen folders. AS> 2. Is it possible to enable messages from many different mail AS> accounts to be copied into the virtual folder? AS> Of course, I could accomplish no. 1 by leaving them in the inbox AS> and copying them as well into whatever folder I want to place AS> them. But, this takes up double the disk space for each message. AS> With a virtual folder, the message is stored only once, but is AS> also "seen" by the virtual folder. Lotus Notes allows for this. AS> How does it work in The Bat? I don't see a way to filter messages into a virtual folder. I have multiple accounts and have separate virtual folders to watch all the Inboxes at once. The mail stays in the correct inbox, yet I can view it and act on it in accordance with it's specific account settings I have another that views all the trash folders, which makes it easy to clean out the trash each night Yet another views all of certain color groups across all folders with the sort by name and showing the account in which it resides The virtual folder it basically a view of whatever you want, filtered and sorted the way you want it -- Rick All that we see or seem Is but a dream within a dream ~ Edgar Allan Poe ~ v5.3.2.4 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Folders
Sunday, October 21, 2012, 11:46:17 PM, you wrote: > I would appreciate it if someone could explain to me how virtual folders > work in The Bat. I'll start by saying that all of this reply deals only with POP3 access to the server; I do not use IMAP at all. I want my messages stored only on my local machines, not retained on a server outside my control -- and I do use a gmail account, configured to download via POP3 at regular intervals. I have three virtual folders: unread, flagged, and parked, in addition to five account folders and almost 200 common folders that form a filing system for my messages. The five accounts connect to three actual mail servers: one from my ISP, one from my web presence provider, and one from gmail. The other accounts allow for different formatting of outgoing messages. All except for the ISP account are checked for incoming mail at intervals ranging from 5 to 10 minutes, staggered to minimize the number of times more than one is being checked at the same time. The common folders form a tree with a small number of general categories at the top, more specific categories in some of those, and specific correspondents at the lowest level. When incoming messages arrive, the Sorting Office in TB! moves all that it can recognize to the appropriate common folder. At the same time, the "unread" virtual folder collects the address of each new message within the tree of common folders. Those not recognized by the Sorting Office remain in the inbox of the appropriate account so that I can move them manually, and they too appear in the "unread" virtual folder, which is the only one I display in the message list (selected by tabs at the bottom of the message list pane). I also use the "sound" properties of each account folder and some common folders to help me identify the sources of messages that are of most interest to me. Once the accounts are set up, all this is automatic, and it's why I continue to use TB! even though I have to do so in a virtual machine since I no longer boot directly into Windows. When I create a new common folder, there's an area in its property pages to select which virtual folders watch it. If I create another virtual folder, its properties include filter criteria and a list of actual folders that it will watch. My Sorting Office filters always just direct messages to one of the common folders. And after these initial setup steps, TB! does the rest automagically. Hope this helps! The best way to learn, though, is to try it for yourself and experiment a bit. -- Best regards, Jimmailto:j...@jimkyle.com Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 on VirtualBox 3.2.12 under Xubuntu 10.04.2 with AntiSpamSniper Version 3.2.4.5 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Folders
Hello Avram, Monday, October 22, 2012, 6:46:17 AM, among other things, you wrote: AS> I would appreciate it if someone could explain to me how virtual folders work in The Bat. AS> 1. For example, is it possible to set up a rule that copies every AS> incoming message in a mail account to two folders: one folder based on AS> some criteria, such as subject, mailing list, etc, and one folder that AS> receives all messages. The latter folder would allow all messages that AS> come in at one time to be more easily viewed that hunting for them among a couple dozen folders. Open an ordinary folder which would receive all the messages you want and then attach a virtual folder to it which sorts according to the other special criteria, or perhaps attach more than one virtual folder with other sorting criteria. AS> 2. Is it possible to enable messages from many different mail accounts AS> to be copied into the virtual folder? I don't think so, but you could take messages to one folder by using a 'Common' filter and attach virtual folders to that common folder. AS> Of course, I could accomplish no. 1 by leaving them in the inbox and AS> copying them as well into whatever folder I want to place them. But, AS> this takes up double the disk space for each message. Not so if you do as I suggest above. Messages will only be stored in the ordinary folder, having been moved from the Inbox. AS> With a virtual older, the message is stored only once, but is also AS> "seen" by the virtual folder. Lotus Notes allows for this. How does it AS> work in The Bat? I don't see a way to filter messages into a virtual AS> folder. The filters for the virtual folder are accessed via the virtual folder properties once you have created the virtual folder. -- Best regards, Roger :flag-SouthAfrica: The Bat! v5.3.2.3 (BETA) POP3, on Windows 7, version 6 1, build 7601 and Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
