Re: how to efficiently fight against spam with the bat!

2002-11-10 Thread Adam Bradley
Sunday, November 10, 2002, 2:25:35 AM, Mitch wrote:

 It's not just for filtering spam - you can filter your e-mail on
 ANYTHING. I've been playing with it a couple of hours, and I've got it
 set up to take over all my e-mail filtering. Seems to be working out
 pretty well - it already knows where to put my mailing list mail
 and this is after filtering a mere 14 messages. Pretty impressive.
...
 I'm really very impressed with POPinfo.

This is what sounds so great about it, the ability to recognise many
different things about email that static filters just can't .
The only problem with using it as a perl script, is that once you've
set it up initially it then runs using just that batch of emails as a
base. What it really needs is to be integrated into the mail client,
that way when it misses something, or gets it wrong, you can tell it
to correct it's database when you move the email to the correct
folder.
I think MSN 8 uses this, but perhaps only for spam. What I'm sure
everyone wants is for this to be included in the bat. I get the
impression that the code isn't actually that difficult to implement,
and it could use the existing user's folders to start off it's words
database.
Is there a request feature thing somewhere where we can ask ritlabs
for this?

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Re: how to efficiently fight against spam with the bat!

2002-11-10 Thread Adam Bradley
Sunday, November 10, 2002, 6:07:44 PM, Mitch wrote:

 The documentation is unclear on this point, but you CAN train it on
 incoming e-mails. You go to a page marked history on the configuration
 page, where you see a list of all the e-mails you've received
 recently, along with a pull-down of which bucket they were
 classified into. If you change the bucket in the pull-down, you can
 train the software to recognize the correct bucket.

That sounds good, I may well have to try it now. Why does my computer
conspire to stop me doing work?

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Re: how to efficiently fight against spam with the bat!

2002-11-09 Thread Adam Bradley
Saturday, November 9, 2002, 8:52:35 PM, rick wrote:

 after 2 days it is working quite well. It uses probability instead of
 static filters. Works wonderful so far.

Are you just using it to filter spam? I was interested in replacing
all my bat rules with this, but I don't know how well it would work.
Given that my current filters get 90% of my spam anyway, I'm not sure
it's worth it.

To the original message - I rely solely on filters, and get just a few
spam messages in my inbox. I haven't had any false positives yet, but
I check every few days.
My spam filter is mainly a list of things that almost always occur
with spam: mortgage Valued customer \$\d{1,}(\.|,)?\d* (that
last regexp catches $100 etc. , I seem to get a lot of casino spam)
If spam slips through the net, I look for identifying features to add
to the filter. It works so far, but for people who get a lot of spam
it might not work as well.
Oh, I should say that the rule excludes anyone in my address book. I
considered whitelisting any message that includes my name in the 'to'
header, but can't figure out the best way to do it.

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Re: On read filter.

2002-10-15 Thread Adam Bradley

Tuesday, October 15, 2002, 11:29:49 PM, you wrote:
 Is there anyway that if you hit delete, it bins it rather than ignoring
 me and filtering it to it's folder anyway?

I don't really use read filters, but something just sprung to mind so
I thought I'd suggest it.
Could you set up a filter that deletes the mail as the first read
filter, set it not to continue with other filters and then assign it a
hot key? Then instead of hitting delete you would just hit whatever
key you assigned that filter and it would bin the message and avoid
other filters.
[waits for someone to tell him why this won't work]

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Re: Filter that strikes out messages that have been replied to

2002-10-06 Thread Adam Bradley

Saturday, October 5, 2002, 6:42:43 PM, you wrote:

 I'm
 afraid strikeout is not possible, but maybe you can live with
 colours.

I can use strikeout here. When editing colour groups I have bold,
italic, underlined and strikeout. I use it to mark spam and it works
fine.

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Re: Mass delete HTML attachments?

2002-10-04 Thread Adam Bradley

Thursday, October 3, 2002, 9:53:48 PM, you wrote:
 I have no use for the HTML portion of the message and would like to automate
 their deletion.  Is there any way to do this for my 2000+ old messages?

I'm not sure if this would work, but it's what occurs to me.
If you have told TB to store attachments in a separate directory, then
I think all the HTML files would be in there. Deleting them would be
very easy if you want to get rid of all of them. For just the ebay
ones you could search for all files containing a certain text string
and delelte all of those.
If you want to automate deletion of the html files as they come in,
you could create a filter for your ebay emails and tell the filter to
execute a batch file each time. It would be simple to have a 'delete
all html files' batch command, I'm not sure about deleting all recent
ones but maybe it could be done with a clever command line utility.
Given Thomas' response, maybe I've missed something and this won't
work. Unfortunately I've got my attachments stored in message bodies
so can't really try it out. Good luck :)

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Re: Filtering Mails.

2002-09-25 Thread Adam Bradley

Wednesday, September 25, 2002, 4:00:31 AM, you wrote:

 Hi fellow TB! users,

 I'm after a touch of advice for filtering mails from 5 other accounts
 into one inbox.

 What is the best way to filter as I also want to add an auto-reply to
 the mails that are forwarded from the 5 accounts into the one.

I have my old email account filtering mails to my new one. I have one
final filter in the
account which looks for . in the kludges (so it will find every
message not done already). This *redirects* the email to my main email
address. With local delivery enabled (from network and admin box)
these emails are sent straight through the bat.
The redirected mail then arrives in my main email account, and runs
through all the filters I have there. TB adds a Resent-from: in the
header, referring to the account the email was redirected from, which
allows me to filter these emails and give them a colour group. So I
know that all blue emails in my inbox came from my old account.

A simpler method would be to just put one filter in each account you
want to forward from. This would catch all mail (eg look for . in
kludges) and move it to the inbox of the main account. You wouldn't
need to bother with redirecting or local delivery options. The only
problem is that the mail won't pass through the filters of the main
account. If you don't use filters on these emails then this way would
be fine.

 Do I put a filter on each account, or can I do one that suites all?

You'll need a filter on each account you want to forward from

 When they then arrive in the inbox they were forwarded to, I then want
 to filter them into various subfolders.

You could either use multiple filters in the original account, and
send them to the folder directly. Or if you already have the filters
in the main account, a single redirecting with local delivery as above
would be the best option.

 Would I be correct in thinking that all these filters will be based on
 'Incoming Mail' filter?

Yes, as long as you want them to go straight to the account, which I
would assume you do.

 Also, when exactly is the 'Read Messages' filter triggered? Is it when
 the message is first opened, or when I close it? The reason I ask, is
 because I don't use a preview pane or after 5 seconds. I prefer the
 double click to open method.

Don't know about this I'm afraid, I don't use read message filters

 I hope that all made sense and looking forward to receiving assistance.

Hope this helps :)

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Re: The Bat and Hotmail

2002-09-23 Thread Adam Bradley

Monday, September 23, 2002, 2:46:53 PM, you wrote:

 Hello TBUDL,

   Just wondering if anyone has come up with a method of accessing
 Hotmail email with The Bat?

http://www.boolean.ca/hotpop/ has been mentioned before on the list.
Haven't tried it out personally, but it looks like what you want.

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Opening awkward URL from filter

2002-09-21 Thread Adam Bradley

I'm trying to set up a filter to automatically open up URLs that I get
when someone replies to me on a forum. I've borrowed the method from
the Spamcop processing filter (saving a regexped part of the email to
a batch file then running it)
The problem is that the urls contain '' characters so I want to
enclose the url within  in the batch file.

I want to make a batch file something like:

c:\Program Files\Crazy Browser\Crazy Browser.exe
http://www.neowin.net/bboard/showthread.php?threadid=44509goto=newpost;

[ignoring wrapping of course]

I've currently got the following as my template for the saved email:

 c:\Program Files\Crazy Browser\Crazy Browser.exe %-
 %REGEXPTEXT=http://www.neowin.net.*?\n;

How can I get  marks around the url?
I've tried them withing the REGEXPTEXT, outside it, and escaped by \.
None of them work...

Any help appreciated!

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Re: AVG virus checker and TB

2002-09-08 Thread Adam Bradley

Sunday, September 8, 2002, 10:54:30 AM, you wrote:

 Hello ,

   Just installed TB and have found it to excellent (this from OE).  I
   would like to continue using AVG virus checker for my E-mail and
   cannot find a way to do this.  Help or advice on another Virus
   checker would be gratefully received.

I've got an AVG plugin for TB, I think I got it from the AVG home
page. I sometimes have a problem with TB not loading it at startup,
though I think this is because I just have too much trying to startup
with my computer and it can't cope!

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