Delphi for linux

[Beat Strasser]

Hi there

Delphi  is  available now for Linux (Kylix). May the ritlabs publish a
Linux version soon... :)

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Re: Message sending at specific time

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Hi Daniel

> thanks for all your help in the past. Is there a simple way to write
> a message now and have it send in either a specific amount of time or
> at a specific time/date? thanks.

No,  there  isn't.  But I'd rather make this via a server because I've
not  running TB 24 hours a day. So, I've set up a perl script on my my
webserver  to  do  such  a job, but I didn't finished yet with all the
features. Because I've got a lot to do else...

Unfortunately,  I  can't  make  this  service  available  to everyone,
because  I  don't  want to have a big mail traffic on my server - only
for friends... :-))

But I'll make the script available for those who want it to install on
their own servers (freeware, of course).

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Re: OT: Real Names

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Hi Thomas

> I have just been told my address and phone number by a friendly member
> of another list, just determinded by my full name and the country
> where I live.

You  must  have a really unique last name or you must live in a really
small country!

Even in Switzerland are more than one person with my name. And my name
is not very often.

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Re: Newbie - AB ??

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Hi Chris

> QUESTION:-  When choosing to save an email address
> to the AB - is there any way of choosing which part
> of the AB it is saved to ??

No, I don't think so.

Email  addresses  are  always saved in the default address book in the
root  (I  mean not in a subgroup). You've to edit the group membership
yourself.

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Re[3]: annoying multi-line cookie protocol

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Hi SyP

> How should I modify it to wrap %INCLUDED cookies? My template goes on
> like this:
> %QINCLUDE="QE"

%WRAPPED='%QINCLUDE="QE"'

or the better solution, 'cause you use it as a signature:

> %ISSIGNATURE
> %COOKIE="F:\Program Files\The Bat!\tag.trt"

%ISSIGNATURE
%WRAPPED='%COOKIE="F:\Program Files\The Bat!\tag.trt"'

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Re: annoying multi-line cookie protocol

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Hi Charlie

> to me, it seems like a PITA that mult-line cookies need this '/n' to
> signify a carriage return. If i download or create a big text file of
> quotes, i've got to go through and insert them manually (which could
> be a huge job). I've just discovered that the old 'byelines'
> cookie-randomizer program has a similar protocol, with '#'
> Why  must  it  be   that   way?  Will it be changed to simply pressing
> 'enter' for for Version 2.0 ?

If  you  press  enter,  then  the  second  (and third...) line will be
treated as individual cookies.

But  you  can  use the new %WRAPPED macro (v1.49). Then you can insert
your cookies like this:
  %WRAPPED="%COOKIE"

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Re: vCard

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Hi Slava

> Having problem with personal vCard.
> Utilities|Attach Personal vCard|  - nothing happens...
> (I do have record for myself in address book)

You've to edit your personal vcard in Account properties.

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Re: What can the bat do for me?

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Hi Andrew

> So is the bat a standard email client, or does it have extra features
> such as mailing local users etc?  Does it have plug-ins for pgp etc?

It is *not* a standard email client. There are so many features, puh I
can't tell you all of them. But look at the following site! There is a
list of the most important ones:

  http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com/

Hey, it's a GOOD email client. Use it.
  
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Re: Personal Delivery

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Hi Shahar

> I'm looking for a feature that can send the same message or text to
> a list of recipients in a way that every recipient will see his name
> and only his name in the "TO" field. I don't want to use the BCc
> fiels.

> There are some software that can do this mail merge, Can TB do it too ?

Write  your message in a quick template and mark the checkbox 'Use for
new  messages/Mass  mailing'.  Then  go to your address book, mark the
recipients  and  select  the  menu  command  'File/Mass  mailing using
template/[your_template_handle]'.  Click  ok, and your message will be
sent to all recipients (only with the recipients' name in the TO field
as you requested). Now you may delete your quick template.

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Re: how use The Bat for news...?

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> Hello TBUDL,I'm new user and I have a question.
> If how I can use The Bat for news group, such like Outlok Express?

TB is not yet a newsreader.

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Bug with %WRAPPED macro

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Hi there

I'm  very  happy  that Ritlabs finally have made the feature with this
%WRAPPED macro.

But there are 2 bugs:

You  always  have to use the %WRAPPED macro at the beginning of a line
and  this is annoying. I want to use something like this in my reading
confirmation template:

%NOWRAPJUSTIFY
  To:  %OTONAME <%OTOADDR>
  Date:%ODATEEN, %OTIMELONGEN
  Subject: %WRAPPED="%OSUBJ"
  Size:%OTEXTSIZE Bytes
  Message ID:  %OMsgID
  Attachments: %WRAPPED="%OATTACHMENTS"

So,  I've  got  15 chars before the %WRAPPED text. This means that the
text  isn't  wrapped at 70 chars, but at 85 chars. I think this has to
be  repaired. It would be even better, if the wrapped text would start
in  my  case  at  char 3 (or even 16? = where the macro started). This
would look like this:

  Subject:  This is a very large subject line and I don't know why
  people are chatting so much in this line...
^^
2 chars space!

The other bug is that there is *always* a line break after %WRAPPED.

So short,
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Re[2]: Plain text by default?

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Hi there

... interesting thread... ;-)

K>> I always thought it was 4 lines.
> - If you include a signature keep it short.  Rule of thumb
>   is no longer than 4 lines.  Remember that many people pay for
>   connectivity by the minute, and the longer your message is,
>   the more they pay.

Just  one question: does the signature separator '-- ' also count as a
signature line?

Is  my signature at the bottom 6 or 5 lines long (or 4 'cause there is
a blank line that only needs 2 bytes )?

TIA.

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Re: Sort Folders

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Ciao Stefano

> I need to sort my subfolders eg:
> Mailing List(parent)
> -demo2(subfolder)
> -demo3(subfolder)
> -demo5(subfolder)
> -demo1(subfolder)
> [...]
  
Move  a  folder  with  your  mouse  pressing Shift and Alt. That's the
trick.

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Re: earlier versions of the Bat

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Hi Don

> I currently use 1.41. Can someone direct me to 1.42? I would then

Here you find nearly all versions (except betas) since v1.41:

  ftp://b8.stradax.net/thebat/

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Re: New to the BAT, virus question

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Hi Daniel

>   and thanks for all your quick responses to my reply message template
>   question. I was using Outlook and got a virus so my life was ruined
>   for a week. I then tried Netscape and thought I would have to buy
>   more ram to send emails to my mother.

...what a true word! ;)

>   were complaining, so every seems happy with The bat which I am now
>   using. What I want to know is about its virus protection system and
>   spam mail. OE is targetted for viruses (using its address book)
>   either b/c it is known or vulnerable or both. Is The Bat address
>   book and file attachment system and whatever else makes email
>   programs susceptible better protected again virus proliferation? and

You've  chosen  a  good  MUA  with  TB,  especially  in  view of virus
protection.  TB  does  a  great  job  with  recognising possible virus
attacks:  not  allowing  code  in  html mails, warning messages before
opening an attachment (default is saving, not opening), etc...

If  you  nevertheless  have  a  virus  infection,  the virus had to be
especially  written  for  TB, else a virus would never find your saved
email addresses or messages - so, you're safe with TB.

>   how about spam mail, what can I do to stop it coming through?
>   much obliged, just searching for a lifeline solution.

You  can  set  up a filter that discards (or moves to special folders)
mails  in  which  your  email address is not listed as recipient. This
will recognize a lot of junk, but also some newsletters and mails from
mailing  lists.  So,  you've to set up some specific filters that keep
these messages.

Your  question  concerning spam was asked some days ago also in TBUDL.
Look  in  the  mail archive - if you don't have the messages anymore -
for the thread 'Spam filter' by John Phillips.
  http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com

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Re[2]: Reply message question

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Hi Nick

> My preferred method (about which I'm not a zealot, nor indeed
> especially scrupulous in practice) is to place my comments at the end
> of short messages, and to intersperse comments on individual points in
> longer messages thus:

I think this is the best method.

> Of course (he said mischievously), you could reverse the quote and
> comment in non-Bat list messages (by using folder templates), but
> leave it as it is for messages to the Bat lists. That way, no-one here
> would know about your wickedness!

:-)) What a phony guy... ;-)

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Re: Reply message question

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Hi Daniel

> I am not sure this is the correct forum but I can't figure out when I

Yes, it is.

> hit reply how to put my reply at the top of the message and the
> message I received at the bottom. Currently my message appears at the
> bottom. I have looked at the FAQ and I think my question is too
> elementary to be there and I looked in the help and I think it might
> have to do with the reply template, but I couldn't see where I edit or
> view all these macros. thanks.

You're right, this has to do with the reply template which is editable
in menu Account/Properties/Templates/Reply. There you'll probably find
something  like %Cursor. Move this string wherever you want, before or
after %Quotes which is the macro to insert the original text quoted.

I  hopefully  may  give  you another hint: if you're replying, it is a
good  thing  not  to  quote  the whole message, but only these phrases
you're  commenting  or  answering. It's also ok, to insert the answers
right between some quotes.

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Re: Signatures; Margins/wrapping

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Hi Leonard

> 1. Is the only way to insert a signature through the use of templates?
> I am not interested in random signatures or cookies. There is an entry
> for "signatures" in the help index, but it displays an essay on
> templates.

Yes.  Templates  are  used  instead of signatures. This is more useful
because  you can put text everywhere you want and also the cursor, not
only at the end like signatures. There are two kinds of templates:

  -  Message  templates  that  you  can  edit  in Accounts properties/
  Templates.

  -  Quick  templates that you can embed whenever you like (Utilities/
  Insert  Quick templates/...). These templates you can create in menu
  Options/Quick templates.

> 2. The message editor wraps nicely until I go back an insert a word or
> two. Then I have to use Utilities>Format Block>Left to fix it. A pain.
> Is there a way to set wrapping to be more automatic, like a word
> processor? In one instance, I highlighted the entire text and selected

Go  to  Utilities/Auto Format (Shift+Ctrl+F). If you want to have this
feature  always  enabled,  go to Options/Editor preferences and enable
the 'AutoFormat' checkbox.

> Format Block. Three paragaphs became one and I had to create the
> paragraphs again. Another pain. Any tricks here?

A  paragraph is recognized by TB only if there is a blank line between
them.
So, this is an example for a 'uncorrect' paragraph.

TB  is  in some things a bit tricky and special, but if you're used to
them, you'll love it and never want to go back to Outlook, Mozilla and
all that crap.

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OT: (No Subject)

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Hi Douglas

> http://www.cai.com/virusinfo/encyclopedia/descriptions/mtx.htm and
> That allowed me to search for the files the worm creates,
> Mtx_.exe, Ie_pack.exe & Win32.dll
> Happily, none were discovered.; the conclusion being that I DIDN'T
> activate it (I was tired at the time & wasn't sure - or feel I was
> as careful as usual).

Stop!  These  files  you mentioned are *hidden* files. So the standard
search program in Windows cannot find them!

Go to the command prompt instead and enter:

  C:\>dir /ah c:\windows

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Re[2]: (No Subject)

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Hi Curt

> Headers below. Anyone on top of this?

The message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] was automatically generated by the
infected winsock.dll.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]  is  informed  about the infection. So let's ignore
this thread now.

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Re: (No Subject)

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!!! ATTENTION !!! VIRUS WARNING !!!

The attachment of the parent message contains a virus:

  IS_LINUX_GOOD_ENOUGH!.TXT.PIF
  is a Win95.MTX worm

More infos:
  http://www.cai.com/virusinfo/encyclopedia/descriptions/mtx.htm

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Re: Address book names or aliases not being recognised

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Hi Woofie

>   Whenever I type in a name or an alias from my address book, as the
>   recipient of a message, The Bat will not recognise the name and I
>   have to actually open the address book and select the name from the
>   entries in my address book. The other alternative is to add
>   addresses from the address book to the favorites list and insert the
>   recipient's address that way.
>   Has anyone else had this problem?

Yes, but there are solutions:

  o Type the name and hit Ctrl+ + or Ctrl+ -

  o Don't  type  the  name  but the recipient's handle. As soon as you
move  to the next field, the handle is replaced by the recipient's
full name plus email.

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Re[2]: Importing a X.509 certificate...?

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Hi ArekG

>As I remember, TB! 1.47 Halloween Edition can't import certificates
>from sender's address. It was fixed in some later beta (I don't
>remember, from which beta version), but in current version (beta/11)
>it works almost well.
>So all you need, is to upgrade to the newest beta (11) and this should
>resolve your problems (Specials|Add sender to Address Book ).

I've  installed v1.48 now - and the import of a X.509 certificate does
not  work,  neither  with 'import key' nor with 'add sender to address
book'.

Can someone confirm this? The import of a friend's Thawte certificate.
I got an encrypted email from him, but I'm not able to extract, fetch,
take out his key. Please help, thx!

So short,
Beat

PS:  Perhaps  someone  can send me a signed mail, so I can try another
key...

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Re[2]: How to remove warning when opening attachments

[Beat Strasser]

Hi Thomas

> In addition, you can add *.* to ProtectWarnOpen, so that you get
> warned if the file extension is not explictely allowed or disabled.

Thx for the hint. I'll have to try out these keys...

So short,
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Re: address book

[Beat Strasser]

Hi Hilary

> address book, there were no entries in it.  Before I re-installed TB!,
> I kept a copy of all the files from my previous installation of TB!.
> Is there a way that I can bring back my old address book?

Yes.  Go  to  the address book and choose 'File/Open address book...'.
Then  look  for a file something.ABD in your backup directory and open
it. This will restore your addresses.

Hope, it works.

So short,
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Re: How to remove warning when opening attachments

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>   I  know  this  has  been asked here before, but I can not find the
>   answer:  How  do  you  remove  the  warning  when  trying  to open
>   attachments?

...and how it is possible to change the default button of this message
box to 'Yes: I want to save the file instead of opening it!' ?

Because I consider this as a security bug. You easily hit enter... and
you open a program you didn't really want to run...

So short,
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Re: Subject field

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Hi Fusiontunes

> insert  a  pre  written  message.. Very neat. However I cannot make it
> fill  in the subject field for me.. I have tried the "Subject" macros,
> but  it  inserts  it  into  the  body  of the message, not the subject
> field.. How do you do this..??

This works in my version:
  %SUBJECT="subject text"

Didn't ya forget the quotation marks?
  
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Re: Spam Filter

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Hi John

>  Any generic type of filter that will pick up spam?  These days I get
>  so much rubbish - be a millionaire in 30 days, send me money & make
>  yourself rich, etc., Viagra without a prescription (I sure could do
>  with some in any case ), etc. etc.

>  Any one had any success in getting rid of these pests?

I've just programmed a mail filter which does his job quite well. It's
a  perl  script  that  is  executed  each  time when a mail arrives. A
message  is  treated  as  spam if the sender's ip is listed in ORBS or
MAPS. So, it does for each time two requests (example ip: 1.2.3.4):

  host 4.3.2.1.blackholes.mail-abuse.org
  host 4.3.2.1.relays.orbs.org

If  the  ip  127.0.0.2  is  returned, the probability is high that the
message  is  spam.  Because I don't delete the message, but send it to
another address, I take no risks.

Additionally, I check the subjects for some suspect strings.

So,  I  let  a  script  filter my mails *before* they arrive in my pop
account. 

So short,
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Re[2]: Multiple e mails

[Beat Strasser]

Hi Dierk

> Put a dummy address in the "To" field (just to make it look good; could
> be "Just for laughs"), and the list (prepared in the address book) into
> the "BCC" field. Viola, as Kelly Bundy puts it.

The  dummy  address should be available - else you'll receive an error
message  from  the  mailer  demon. If you put something like 'Just for
laughs', the mail server will try to reach the following addresses, if
your email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] , [EMAIL PROTECTED] , [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If these addresses exist, you've just sent your message to people that
you never heard of!

To avoid this, I always put something like this in the TO-field:
  Dear friends <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(in  which  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  is  a  real  address that sends all
 received mails to /dev/null )

So short,
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Re[2]: Importing a X.509 certificate...?

[Beat Strasser]

Hi ArekG

>As I remember, TB! 1.47 Halloween Edition can't import certificates
>from sender's address. It was fixed in some later beta (I don't
>remember, from which beta version), but in current version (beta/11)
>it works almost well.
>So all you need, is to upgrade to the newest beta (11) and this should
>resolve your problems (Specials|Add sender to Address Book ).

Thank  you for your reply. I didn't read the TBBETA list because I was
lacking  of  time  and  so  I  didn't hear of the ongoing updates. But
perhaps I'll wait for v1.48 because I don't like beta's very much...

So short,
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Re: news lists

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Hi Jan

>I'm not an experienced news forum reader. Can I use TB! to read
>news groups? And can someone tell me where I can find information
>how to set TB! up for a newsgroup? I searched FAQ without much
>success.

No,  TB  isn't  neither a news client nor a news server.

So short,
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Importing a X.509 certificate...?

[Beat Strasser]

Hi there

I just got an email that was encryptet with S/Mime. I could decrypt it
easily,  but  I'm not able to import the sender's key! If it was a PGP
key,  it  would  be  no  problem, but with the X.509 certificates from
Thawte, I didn't succeeded.

I  also tried to save the message and to import it then in the address
book.

Other  email  clients are able to import keys from a received message.
Is the Bat! not able yet to import such a public key?

TIA.

So short,
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Re: Lost link associations with 1.42c

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Hi Curt

> Since the installation of 1.42c, clicking on http links within
> messages results in absolutely nothing.

Can't confirm this. I work with IE.

The  problem that I've now with 1.42c is that using Shift and a double
click  on a http link won't cause IE to open a new window anymore. No,
this is opening IE in my hex editor! Not really useful ;-)

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Re[2]: I *can* upgrade to new msg base format now! :)

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Hi Januk

Thx very much for your tip.
It  was  quiet  a lot of work, because there were many folders in mess
(because some attachments were missing)...

   ...but now it's all ok and works!! 

Thx  and thx to all programmers and beta testers. The new features are
really cool and useful.

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Can't upgrade to new msg base format!

[Beat Strasser]

Hi there

I  tried  to  upgrade  from v1.41 to v1.42. Before, I copied the whole
Mail directory to another harddisk.

During  the  message  base  format  convertion  I  get always an error
'Couldn't write to message base. Check if there's enough disk space in
Temp  and  Mail  directory'.  But  I've  1.2GB free disk space on each
harddisk. This can't be the problem. Once I choosed the option 'Delete
old message file' and it worked some seconds longer, but then gives me
the same error.

It's always the same folder that causes this error (not the first). It
contains  about  550  messages  and 6 subfolders and was compressed on
each exit.

Now, I'm running v1.41 again. I was glad to upgrade because of all the
new features, now I'm kind of sad...

WHAT should I do? Please help. I'd be very grateful.

So short,
Beat Strasser

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