On Mon, 1 Apr 2002 14:53:48 +0200, Joern Barthel wrote:
>I'd like to do a newsletter using The Bat! targeting 2000+ users.
I use to have a 2000+ subscribed to E-mail list before a website for
newsletters which were huge. But I had to break down the list way down to
about 200 to send at a time since as ISP tech support told me I would "blow
the bcc buffer", The result was E-mails were lost in Cyberspace with no
bounce just receivers never received. That was before 1998.
More recently I now have a 800 name differenet subcriber Private E-mail
list. I started to have same "lost in space" problem. Bat has the perfect
solution. In the address book use the mass mailing to individual addresss
option with a Template. My Template simply sets the subject "Phoenix
Private E-mail List" and pastes the current weekly update from a file. I
then have it send to outbox. Takes maybe 30 seconds or so (using 2gig Dell
with WinXP) and all messages are in outbox.
If I send using my ISP (Cox cable) it takes an hour or so one message at a
time, typically about 60k in size each. For the last month or so I started
using PointCast Server Software. Instead of using your ISP's smtp server
it makes your own computer the smtp server. In Bat in transport menue
change from ISP's smpt server to just "DELL" and set up PointCast to
receive from Dell. PointCast opens 20 threads at a time multitasking 20
different sends at a time. The negative of this is I get a lot of dns
server and end server timeouts (hotmail seems really bad). While the first
run maybe takes 10-15 minutes to try and send the 800 E-mails, last night
for example it left about 160 unsent due to timeouts etc. I rerun it 4-5
times (depending on how long you set the timeouts to give up) and
eventually all but 7 got sent. Of the 7 about 3 were either unknown since
since last week account had been closed or the infamous "mailbox full"
error. I delete these each week. The other 4 were just timeouts with no
reject reason. I then manually send them regular way via Cox since its
smtp server will keep trying for hours or days if just a problem with
addressess server. Of these 4 , I think I got rejects for mailbox full
or no account on 2 of them sent back the regular way and the other 2 seemed
to make it. Or, at least no bounce so far.
Both ways using Bat to produce via mass mailing template 800 (actually was
795) separate messages instead of bcc, solved the "missing in space"
problem. The time required to send using ISP as smtp or my computer using
Point Cast is about the same since I have to rerun Point Cast 4-5 times to
overcome time outs. But I like Point Cast since I have more control and
can see what is going on.
If you have a slower than cable connection it may take longer. But my
upload speed is only about 500kb or so vs about 3mb download. But if
someone only has a 28K dialup it will take much longer.
Good luck
Dave in Phoenix
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