Please Help a Newbie

[Gene Brown]

I'm finally getting out of Outlook Express (thank the gods!) and into
The Bat!, but I'm having a problem importing my old folders.  The
Import Wizard did a partial job but doesn't recognize many of the old
folders (in two different accounts, I might add).  How can I do this
manually?

A second question has to do with selective quoting in replying to
messages.  I understand how to use the F4 key to quote a selected
passage, but is there a simple way to quote _several_ selected and
highlighted passages?  I.e., can I read through a new message,
highlighting passages as I go, and then use a simple keystroke to
quote them all in the reply?  (I used to have a proprietary
off-line-reader for CompuServe--called OzWin--that had this feature,
and I really miss it.)

A final (for now) question has to do with TB documentation.  Is there
a place I can find a single, comprehensive description of the TB
features--basically, a user manual?  The program's help file basic,
but limited.  The TB archives are wonderful.  But is there someplace
that puts it all together?  What would be the most efficient way for a
Newbie to learn about the F4 quoting function?  Or what other F keys
or key combinations do?

Thanks for your patience with all my foolishness.



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Re: Digest (05/04/2000 01:43) Special Issue (#2000-174)

[Gene Brown]

On Wednesday, May 03, 2000, at 2:44 PM, Steve wrote:

> Well, if people took a few seconds to RTFM they wouldn't be asking in the
> first place.

As a Newbie here with TB, I'd really *love* to RTFM.  But an earlier
post I made about that got the response that there is no manual, and the
best I can do (beyond the help file) is to check out the archives and
monitor this list.

Is there a better way to learn about all the TB! features?  Give me a
manual, please.



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Re: Make it STOP!!

[Gene Brown]

On Tuesday, December 30, 2003, 2:57:33 PM, you wrote:

S> Is there any way to make the Connection Center take a break, not check email,
S> like have a toggle button somewhere 

A couple things come to mind that might do something like what you're
after.

If you have the TB accounts set up to check for mail at startup,
couldn't you just hit the "abort" button to stop the downloads, then
move to each account as needed and hit F2 to check and download mail
from that account?

Or maybe the accounts could be set up to check for mail at different
intervals, so you'd only be interrupted briefly every few minutes.

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Spam Filtering

[Gene Brown]

A few days ago someone had a question about spam filtering problems
but it drifted off into a conversation about untrimmed replies, so I
thought I'd raise it again.

BayesIT had been working pretty well for me up until upgrading to the
current TB version with the built-in plug-in.  I tried to bring it up
to speed by running through all my old junk mail as well as a
collection of good mail, but it still wasn't catching much after about
a week of operation and I was wondering what was wrong.

I finally set my "score greater than" box to 5 out of 100 (!), and now
things are looking up--it's catching maybe eighty percent of the spam
with no false positives.  But 5 seems an awfully low number to use,
and I'm always checking for good mail showing up in my junk box.  Am I
doing something wrong or is this how it works?  Will I be able to
raise the score over time to give myself more peace of mind?

And just what do those choices about Average, Maximal and Minimal
really mean?  I've fooled around with changing the settings but can
see no difference in performance.

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Re: Spam Filtering

[Gene Brown]

So, what do those choices about Average, Maximal and Minimal
really mean?  Average of what? Minimal of what?

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Newbie with Address Book Problem

[Gene Brown]

Is this a bug, a "feature" or am I doing something wrong?

I have my address books set up to sort by last name. This works just fine
when I call up the addresses from the main screen. But if I first click on
the icon to start a new message, and *then* call up the address book, it
displays them sorted by first name.

Is there some way to get the address books to *always* sort by last name?

--Thanks, Gene



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Newbie with Address Book Problem

[Gene Brown]

Last week I sent this message but never got a response from any of the
group members here.  Is it a goofy question?  Has it been asked and answered
a million times already?  Is it not clear what my question is?

> Is this a bug, a "feature" or am I doing something wrong?
> 
> I have my address books set up to sort by last name. This works just fine
> when I call up the addresses from the main screen. But if I first click on
> the icon to start a new message, and *then* call up the address book, it
> displays them sorted by first name.
> 
> Is there some way to get the address books to *always* sort by last name?
> 
> --Thanks, Gene



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Restoring Deleted Messages

[Gene Brown]

Sometimes I delete a message from a folder that I'd later like to restore.
Once I find the message in Browse Deleted Files, I don't see an easy way
to restore it to its original folder. What I do is move it to some other
folder (like Inbox) then move it again to the folder it was originally
deleted from.

Does this make sense?  And is there a better way to do this?



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Re: Fwd: Re: TheBat and Spam

[Gene Brown]

On Friday, August 25, 2000, Steve wrote:

> Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 14:55:20 -0700
> From: Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: TheBat and Spam

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1

> Thursday, August 24, 2000, 3:49:00 PM, A wrote:
>> - Filter rules for messages from news and other promo sites to which I
>>   have subscribed.

> Pst.  You misspelled "porno".  :)

Steve! You naughty boy! Where is your head?  :-)

Oops, I think I see a trout being swung in my direction.



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Re: How do you get decent support out of

[Gene Brown]

On Saturday, January 8, 2005, at 11:46 AM, Thomas wrote:

> As you know, resistance is futile. ;-)

All your base are belong to us!

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Re: How to see a raw message?

[Gene Brown]

This is kind of a simple idea--and it may not even apply, depending on
the format the message was sent in.  But is it possible that the
sender used that old scam of putting white text on a white background
so it's not visible on the screen?



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Re: Scanner and the Bat

[Gene Brown]

Sunday, December 8, 2002, 7:27:37 AM, you wrote:

JL> incidently, it dosen't see photoshop 7 either!!!  Good buy huh!

Actually, I like the Visioneer OneTouch.  You can get scanners with
better resolution for the price, but the overall setup is something I
find very nice--and worth the trade-off.

Anyway, try setting up the PaperPort program that came with the
scanner to recognize TB.  I think the scanner takes its options from
there.

Open up PaperPort and click on File>Links>Create a New Link. Follow
the prompts to set up a link to The Bat! (or Photoshop 7, or
whatever).  Close PaperPort.

Then open up the Visioneer Configure screen and select the Email tab.
Then select the Preferences tab (at the top on the far right) and
check the "Show all Destinations" box.  Click OK and go back the email
screen.  TB should show up in the list of options for you to choose.

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Glyphs won't change

[Gene Brown]

Odd little problem with my glyphs.  When I upgraded to 2.0 the glyphs
didn't change, even though the splash logo did.  I moved up to 2.01,
but still no change.  I didn't think much of it until there was a
discussion here of alternate glyph collections and I thought I might
try something different.

Well, even loading in a new glyphs bmp file didn't change anything!  I
still have the old 1.xx glyphs.  This is a trivial issue, but now it
has me wondering.  How is this even possible?  Aren't the glyphs
integral to the exe file?

We have two computers networked here at home, and each has TB
installed.  The same upgrade files were used on both computers--one
changed, the other didn't.  How can this be?
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Re: Glyphs won't change

[Gene Brown]

Monday, October 20, 2003, 11:03:22 AM, Mark wrote:

MP> Could it be that in the one that didn't change, you did not check "High
MP> colour images" on the Options/Preferences/General Tab?

H...  Could be. 
Thanks, Mark.


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Lost Windows Task Bar

[Gene Brown]

After reinstalling The Bat! following a major hard drive disaster, I
discovered that when TB loads, I lose my Windows Task Bar (the bar
along the bottom of the screen that shows what programs are open or
loaded).  If I minimize TB from the main screen then restore it, it
comes back with the bar in place, but if I minimize from an edit
screen, that screen just disappears into a black hole.  I have to then
minimize the main screen and restore it in order to again restore the
edit screen.  (Am I being clear on what happens?)

I've tried reinstalling The Bat! but that didn't help.  No other
programs show this same behavior.  I've used TB through many versions
over several years and never had this problem until now.  Any ideas?

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Problem Exporting AD

[Gene Brown]

I keep two separate address books--one has two sub-ADs and the other
has three. If I want to print out a hard copy of one of the sub-ADs,
there's no problem; it's very straightforward.

But if I want to copy a sub-AD to a file as plain text, I run into a
problem.  There's no "print to file" option in the print menus, so I used
the export function in the file drop-down menu. The problem is that I can't
limit the export to a single sub-address book. The new file that's created
includes all other sub-ADs plus the main AD. (With duplicates thankfully
omitted.)  The new file begins listing the addresses alphabetically, but
misses some of them.  Then, about two-thirds of the way through it begins
picking up the missed addresses and lists them in what appears to be a
random order.  There doesn't seem to be any pattern to this, so it wouldn't
be easy to just edit out the unneeded addresses.

I don't need to do this often, and a simple solution would be plug the
sub-AD into its own main AD to create the file, but this issue was giving
me fits today.  Am I missing something obvious?

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