Bouncing Emails

2004-09-01 Thread Pete Holsberg
To me, the thing that sets TheBat is its ability to bounce (in addition to forward) 
emails.

I don't see that in Mozilla, Thunderbird, but it is there (sort of) in Outlook.

What other email clients have the ability to bounce emails?

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Re: Retraining BayesIT from scratch

2004-08-29 Thread Pete Holsberg
Sunday, August 29, 2004, 5:00:54 AM, you wrote:

> Hi fladdermöss,

> I've recently installed the latest version of BayesIT (0.5.11). Since
> then I've experienced sudden crashes with The Bat! I would like to
> retrain BayesIT from scratch since I think that's the problem.

> Can anyone tell me what files to delete? Should I delete everything
> under BayesIT/Base/* ?

I would go back, remove all traces of all BayesIt! files from everywhere
and reinstall.

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Re[5]: HELP -- all incoming messages are being junked!!

2004-08-26 Thread Pete Holsberg
Thursday, August 26, 2004, 12:47:42 PM, you wrote:

> Hello Pete,

> Thursday, August 26, 2004, 9:36:24 AM, you wrote:

>> Yes! Both!!! How does one retrain BayesIt!?

> Highlight the e-mail that you want to use to train with and under
> the menu Specials chose Mark as Junk or Mark as Not Junk.

> You need to use both junk and non-junk mail to train.

Aha! I did not use any non-junk mail. I think it's fixed now.

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Re[3]: HELP -- all incoming messages are being junked!!

2004-08-26 Thread Pete Holsberg
Thursday, August 26, 2004, 12:19:40 PM, you wrote:

> Hello Pete,

> Thursday, August 26, 2004, 8:56:54 AM, you wrote:

>> That did the trick.

>> Is there another SPAM plugin available?

> Did you happen to upgrade TB! or BayesIt! lately?

> I had this problem when I upgraded TB! and had to "retrain" BayesIt!

Yes! Both!!! How does one retrain BayesIt!?

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Re: HELP -- all incoming messages are being junked!!

2004-08-26 Thread Pete Holsberg
Thursday, August 26, 2004, 11:35:05 AM, you wrote:

> Suddenly, all incoming messages for all my accounts are
> being marked as read and dumped into the junk file!!

> And there are no filters that do that.

> I will disable BayesIt! and see if that helps.

That did the trick.

Is there another SPAM plugin available?

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HELP -- all incoming messages are being junked!!

2004-08-26 Thread Pete Holsberg
Suddenly, all incoming messages for all my accounts are
being marked as read and dumped into the junk file!!

And there are no filters that do that.

I will disable BayesIt! and see if that helps.

If it does. is there an alternative plugin for SPAM?

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Re: TB and XP new SP2...

2004-08-25 Thread Pete Holsberg
WilWilWil wrote:
I see in the footer of some mails that some of you use TB on XP with new Service
Pack 2. Have you seen some troubles with TB 2.12 or higher under SP2 ?
Is this SP2 really necessary for people who don't use use microsoft Outlook and
Internet Explorer with all his holes of security ? Because this upgrade seems to
be very heavy !
See 
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/secnews/experience.mspx 
for Microsoft's outlook on your question.


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Problems With BayesIT! v0.5.11 -- Please Help

2004-08-25 Thread Pete Holsberg
When I went to check the statistics for BayesIt under
"information", I found that every number was ZERO!!

Assuming that something was wrong, I deleted the plugin
from TheBat! and removes all traces of BayesIt. I then
downloaded v0.5.11 and unRARred it to C:\Program Files\The
Bat!\bayesit

I fired up TheBat! and ADDed the plugin. I got a
congratulations message and then "thebat has caused errors
and is being shutdown"!!!

Any ideas as to what is going on here?

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Can't Install BayesIT! 0.5.9

2004-08-24 Thread Pete Holsberg
Decided to start all over again.

Deleted all evidences of Bayesit! files and downloaded 0.5.9 from savagenews.com 

UnRARred it to a subdirectory of TheBat!, opened TheBat! and added it as a plug-in.

It said was successful, that it had created some initial files and told me to click OK

I did.

Got a message about errors in TheBat! and closing.

(Where would the error log files be?)

Opened TheBat! again and the plugin was gone.


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BayesIt not working???

2004-08-24 Thread Pete Holsberg
I just did Options > Preferences > Plugins. selected BayesIt! and clicked on 
Information.

All my statistics show "0" as their values!

What's going on here?

Thanks.

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Printing Messages

2004-08-19 Thread Pete Holsberg

Is there any way to print just the body of a message?

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Re[2]: Help with BayesIt tuning

2004-08-15 Thread Pete Holsberg
Sunday, August 15, 2004, 11:11:00 AM, you wrote:

DJ> Some time around 08/15/2004 10:52:14, I think I heard Pete Holsberg say:
>> Sunday, August 15, 2004, 7:44:17 AM, you wrote:

AW>>> Hello MikeD,

AW>>> On 14 Aug 2004 at 14:47:24 -0500 GMT [21:47 CEST] you wrote:

AW>>> Have you deleted you spam and non-spam dictionary files when you
AW>>> upgraded?

>> What are their names and where are they?

DJ> Their names are spamdict.* and nspamdict.* and they are located in a directory
DJ> called "base" within the BayesIt working directory, which is normally either:

DJ> \BayesIt\base
DJ> or
DJ> \MAIL\BayesIt\base


??? Mine are in C:\Documents and Settings\pjh\Application Data\BayesIt\base

TB is in C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe and BayesIt is in C:\Program 
Files\BayesIt
under Windows 2000.

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Re[2]: Help with BayesIt tuning

2004-08-15 Thread Pete Holsberg
Sunday, August 15, 2004, 7:44:17 AM, you wrote:

AW> Hello MikeD,

AW> On 14 Aug 2004 at 14:47:24 -0500 GMT [21:47 CEST] you wrote:

AW> Have you deleted you spam and non-spam dictionary files when you
AW> upgraded?

What are their names and where are they?


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Re[2]: Help with BayesIt tuning

2004-08-14 Thread Pete Holsberg
Saturday, August 14, 2004, 2:37:03 PM, you wrote:

DJ> Some time around 08/14/2004 12:34:07, I think I heard Pete Holsberg say:

>> Where do you do the setting???

DJ> In a file called ADVANCED.INI in the BayesIt working directory, or 
DJ> in the TB! installation directory.

Not found anywhere on either HD!

Can it be created manually??

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Re[2]: Help with BayesIt tuning

2004-08-14 Thread Pete Holsberg
Saturday, August 14, 2004, 12:27:41 PM, you wrote:

AW> Hello DZ-Jay,

AW> On 14 Aug 2004 at 11:30:32 -0400 GMT [17:30 CEST] you wrote:

DJ>> Yes, I am aware of its definition, but what I don't understand
DJ>> is what would be the effect of changing it to, say, 1.2 from 1.5
DJ>> (apart from the academic answer of making non-spam tokens a bit less
DJ>> heavier).  How does the plugin use this value?

AW> Assume a word orccurs equally often in spam and non-spam mails. If you
AW> set the value to 1 the word will get a spam propability of 0.5. If you
AW> set it to a higher value the word will get something lower than 0.5.
AW> Words in non-spam mails just count more and you can set just how much
AW> more.

Where do you do the setting???



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Re[2]: Help With Filter

2004-08-08 Thread Pete Holsberg
Sunday, August 8, 2004, 1:57:25 PM, you wrote:

>>> There's no need, with hotkeys, to add a filter for your harvesting
>>> action.

>> I don't understand. Without a filter, how do I copy
>> the email address of each sender to a specific group
>> of an address book?

BM> You do need a filter.  You don't need re-filter.  The hotkey activates
BM> your filter.

So why did you say that I don't need to add a filter

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Re[2]: Help With Filter

2004-08-08 Thread Pete Holsberg
Saturday, August 7, 2004, 11:15:51 PM, you wrote:

BM> On Sat 7-Aug-04 6:02pm -0400, Pete Holsberg wrote:

>> I'm having trouble with a filter. Perhaps someone can spot
>> my error.

BM> I've not tested your filter with "refilter."  I used it with your
BM> hotkey.  It appears to work fine with the minor modifications I
BM> mention below.

To test the filter, did you select a folder before hitting the
hot key combo? Did you select any messages?

>> Rule
>> 
>>
>> Source: Inbox\04-01
>> Move messages to folder: Inbox\04-01A

BM> Using the hotkey, leave these at their defaults.

How does the filter know which folder to filter?


>> Filtering strings:
>> StringsFrom:
>> Location   Sender
>> Presence   Yes

BM> There's no need, with hotkeys, to add a filter for your harvesting
BM> action.

I don't understand. Without a filter, how do I copy
the email address of each sender to a specific group
of an address book?

>> Active - checked
>> Manual only - not checked

BM> Check Manual also.

Why?

>> Actions
>> ---
>> Add addresses to Address Book
>> Items: Sender (From)
>> Add tp groups: taskvols (this is a folder in the Personal AB)

>> Options
>> ---
>> Regex is checked

BM> Why?

I had this from an earlier attempt when I was trying to
write a regex for the filter string.

>> Execute on CTRL-SH-F12
>>
>> (Nothing else is checked)

BM> Check "This rule is executed only by pressing the hotkey

>> I close this, go to the Inbox\04-01, click Folder >
>> Re-filter. It says that it filtered N messages, but when I
>> look at the AB, nothing has been added.

BM> If you actually want to process all the mail in a folder, just use
BM> ctrl-a to select all before your hotkey.  The normal use, however,
BM> would be to press your hotkey on a message whose sender you want added
BM> to your AB.


The whole point is to grab ALL the from addresses from ALL the messages
in a folder.

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Help With Filter

2004-08-07 Thread Pete Holsberg
I'm having trouble with a filter. Perhaps someone can spot
my error.

Account > Sorting Office/Filters
Read messages > Harvest (that's its name)

Rule


Source: Inbox\04-01
Move messages to folder: Inbox\04-01A

(Question: is there a way to omit the source and just apply
the filter via "refilter current folder"?

Is there a way to omit the destination because I don't
really want to move the messages at all?)

Filtering strings:
StringsFrom:
Location   Sender
Presence   Yes

Active - checked
Manual only - not checked

Actions
---
Add addresses to Address Book
Items: Sender (From)
Add tp groups: taskvols (this is a folder in the Personal
AB)

Options
---
Regex is checked
Execute on CTRL-SH-F12

(Nothing else is checked)


I close this, go to the Inbox\04-01, click Folder >
Re-filter. It says that it filtered N messages, but when I
look at the AB, nothing has been added.

???

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Re[2]: Harvest Sender Email Addresses??

2004-08-07 Thread Pete Holsberg
Friday, August 6, 2004, 4:08:40 PM, you wrote:


Z> ON Friday, August 6, 2004, 9:45:10 PM, you wrote:
PH>> I have a folder full of email messages.

PH>> I would like to -- automagically, extract from each message the email address of
PH>> the sender and append it to a text file in a specified directory.

Z> Hi Pete,

Z> Try this filter. It is set to manual and you have to point it at the right
Z> directory and create the appropriate address book(mine is called auto).
Z> Then use refilter / manual in the directory and you will have a address
Z> book with all the e-mail addresses. The export the address book to plain
Z> text and your done.

Z> BeginFilter
Z> Name: Auto add
Z> Active: 1
Z> Source: \\IPS\Inbox\Direct Mails
Z> Target: \\IPSR\Inbox\Direct Mails
Z> CopyFolder: none
Z> MainSet: 00@
Z> Actions: faAddAddress,faoManualOnly,faoAdvAddressOut
Z> AddGroups: Auto
Z> DelGroups: 
Z> ForwardTemplate: 
Z> ConfirmTemplate: 
Z> ReplyTemplate: 
Z> FwdAddr: 
Z> RedirectAddr: 
Z> NewAddr: 
Z> NewTemplate: 
Z> ExtCmd: 
Z> ExtFile: 
Z> ExtractDir: 
Z> ColourGroup: 
Z> AddAddrItems: afiFrom,
Z> DelAddrItems: afiFrom,
Z> HotKey: 0
Z> IsOfColour: 
Z> SizeBigger: 0
Z> SizeSmaller: 0
Z> AgeOlder: 0
Z> AgeNewer: 0
Z> InAddrPos: 0
Z> OutAddrPos: 0
Z> InAddrGroups: 
Z> NoAddrGroups: Auto
Z> KillFile: 
Z> KillMethod: 0
Z> SaveTemplate: 
Z> SndFile: 
Z> SysSound: 0
Z> SoundTime: 0:00-0:00
Z> AllowTime: 0:00-0:00
Z> EndFilter



Cool! Where do I put this? It doesn't seem to fit the point-and-click
filter creation in TB.

Thanks.

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Re[2]: Harvest Sender Email Addresses??

2004-08-07 Thread Pete Holsberg
Friday, August 6, 2004, 4:35:50 PM, you wrote:


JR> Hi Pete. I assume all msgs have been read.

JR>   Open Sorting office 
JR>   Click on 'Read' Messages
JR>   Click 'New' 
JR>   At strings add "@" w/o quotes 

Changed this to \w
 when the @ had no affect.
JR>   Under Actions Tab select "Add address to Address Book"
JR>   Select 'Sender (from)' 
JR>   Add to Groups 
JR>   Under Options Tab
JR>   Select Execute action set of this rule by pressing the Hot Key
JR>  Click Close
JR>   Select all messages in folder
JR>   Run filter via short cut keys

Addressbook group did not get any additions.

Seems like it should work but nothing happens.

???



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Re[2]: Limiting BayesIt to scan only unknown mail

2004-08-06 Thread Pete Holsberg
Friday, August 6, 2004, 4:04:43 PM, you wrote:


Z> ON Friday, August 6, 2004, 9:47:22 PM, you wrote:
LG>> So you installed an older version and then overwrote it with the new?

Z> I had an old version installed (I believe 0.5.4) which came with my
Z> current version of TB and I overwrote that one with the new 0.5.9


How do you set up white- and blacklists?

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Re[2]: Harvest Sender Email Addresses??

2004-08-06 Thread Pete Holsberg
Friday, August 6, 2004, 12:48:46 PM, you wrote:

JR> On Friday, August 06, 2004 it appears that Pete Holsberg wrote the
JR> following in regards to "Harvest Sender Email Addresses??":

>>>> One is to write a filter that add the name to an address book when they
>>>> arrive. YOu can export these later to a CSV file which you can read into a
>>>> spreadsheet or word processor or... etc.

BM>>> The question (IMHO) asks about multiple From addresses in a single message, not
BM>>> multiple messages in a folder.

PH>> Sorry to be ambiguous. What I want is to harvest each From address from
PH>> a group of email messages. 

JR> Hi Pete.

JR>   I may not understand what you want either but have you looked @
JR>   filters | actions | Add address(es) to Address Book


I have a folder full of email messages.

I would like to -- automagically, extract from each message the email address of
the sender and append it to a text file in a specified directory.

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Re[2]: Harvest Sender Email Addresses??

2004-08-06 Thread Pete Holsberg
Thursday, August 5, 2004, 7:04:38 PM, you wrote:


BM> On Thu, 2004-08-05 at 14:22:15, Zonnet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> ON Thursday, August 5, 2004, 5:56:21 PM, you wrote:
PH>>> In TheBat 2.10, is there away to harvest all sender email
PH>>> addresses (i.e, the entire "From:" line)
PH>>> to an external file?

>> Hi Pete,

>> There are a few ways to do this.

>> One is to write a filter that add the name to an address book when they
>> arrive. YOu can export these later to a CSV file which you can read into a
>> spreadsheet or word processor or... etc.

BM> The question (IMHO) asks about multiple From addresses in a single message, not
BM> multiple messages in a folder.

Sorry to be ambiguous. What I want is to harvest each From address from
a group of email messages. 

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Re[2]: Harvest Sender Email Addresses??

2004-08-05 Thread Pete Holsberg
Thursday, August 5, 2004, 11:59:28 AM, you wrote:

MDP> Dear Pete,

MDP> @5-Aug-2004, 11:56 -0400 (05-Aug 16:56 UK time) Pete Holsberg said
MDP> to tbudl:

>> In TheBat 2.10, is there away to harvest all sender email
>> addresses (i.e, the entire "From:" line) to an external file?

MDP> Yes, using a "manual" filter. You would export each message,
MDP> appending to a file, using macros to only export:

MDP> "%FROMNAME" <%fromaddr>


Cool. Where do I learn about filters and macros?

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Re: Mod: Cut mark (was: Harvest Sender Email Addresses??)

2004-08-05 Thread Pete Holsberg
Thursday, August 5, 2004, 11:57:59 AM, you wrote:

MDP> Dear Pete,

MDP> @5-Aug-2004, 11:56 -0400 (05-Aug 16:56 UK time) Pete Holsberg said
MDP> to tbudl:

>> Thanks.


>> 
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MDP> Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists
MDP> of a , i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line.
MDP> This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without
MDP> the signature and list footers since everything below and including
MDP> the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. 

Did it work???


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Harvest Sender Email Addresses??

2004-08-05 Thread Pete Holsberg
Hi,

In TheBat 2.10, is there away to harvest all sender email addresses (i.e, the entire 
"From:" line)
to an external file?

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Re: Mod: Top posting

2004-05-26 Thread Pete Holsberg
Allie Martin wrote:
Marck D Pearlstone wrote:
Microsoft made a grand mistake. When you reply to an email using one
of their email programs, you get the flashing cursor at the top of
the text. So it appears that it's okay to just type what you want to
say *there*.
It's not okay though.

I don't know if it's Microsoft that started it but it's certainly not 
only Microsoft e-mail clients that does this.
Don't most of them givve you an option to control that?
It's really important that one quotes only what is relevant when 
participating in discussion groups since it helps to greatly reduce the 
amount of bytes being passed around with each post. 
Especially on mailing lists that add footers!
I'm using ThunderBird here and realize that it doesn't make life easy 
for those who wish to quote only the relevant text. It will not quote 
only the text you select. Additionally, splitting quoted text into parts 
for replying isn't as easy as with TB!.
Gee, I didn't have any problems doing this message with 
T-bird. :-)

Pete

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Re[2]: HTML Attachment

2003-04-12 Thread Pete Holsberg
Hello Allie,

Saturday, April 12, 2003, 5:57:01 PM, you wrote:

AM> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
AM> Hash: SHA1

AM> Pete Holsberg [PH] wrote:

PH>> Some incoming messages are shown as having an HTML attachment even
PH>> when they do not!

AM> The HTML attachment will appear once a message is sent in HTML format,
AM> dual formatted (in both plain text and HTML format), or when an HTML
AM> document is actually attached.

Um, that's not the problem.

TheBAT! is identifying messages as having HTML attachments when they
do not and also they are not formatted as embedded HTML.

I had the same messages sent to several of my email accounts, a couple
of POP3s and a couple of web-hosted accounts, and only TheBAT! sees
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HTML Attachment

2003-04-12 Thread Pete Holsberg
Some incoming messages are shown as having an HTML attachment even
when they do not!

What gives with that?

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Re[2]: Filters

2003-03-18 Thread Pete Holsberg
Tuesday, March 18, 2003, 3:31:33 AM, you wrote:

PH>> I have 1.60 and am happy with it. Does 1.62 represent an important
PH>> improvement?

RO> The most important improvement for you would be that you'd have a
RO> help-file.

Well, if someone would email me the help file, I could save a download
and reinstall. :-)



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Re[2]: Filters

2003-03-18 Thread Pete Holsberg
Hello Thomas,

Monday, March 17, 2003, 10:28:12 PM, you wrote:

>> So the rules are ANDed? How do I get them to be ORed?

TF> If they are all on the first tab ("Rule", then they are ANDed. If you
TF> put conditions onto the second tab ("Alternatives"), each alternative
TF> is ORed to the first tab and to all other alternative rules. Now, each
TF> of these can again have multiple ANDed conditions, which you add by
TF> using Alt-Ins.

TF> However, for this list I have only one condition:

TF> String: Reply-To:.*TBUDL
TF> Presence in: Kludges

TF> Under the Options tab, I have activated "Regular Expressions", so that
TF> this dot-asterisk is interpreted as "any characters". I believe I
TF> copied this from the welcome mail or somewhere.

OK, thanks.

>> I see that I don not have the_bat.hlp. Can someone send it to me or
>> tell me where I can snarf a copy from?

TF> If you donwload the latest version of TB and run the install routine,
TF> the Help will be installed automatically.

I have 1.60 and am happy with it. Does 1.62 represent an important
improvement?

Thanks.


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Re[2]: Filters

2003-03-17 Thread Pete Holsberg
Hello Roelof,

Monday, March 17, 2003, 7:17:41 PM, you wrote:

RO> Hallo Pete,

RO> On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 18:46:08 -0500GMT (18-3-03, 0:46 +0100, where I
RO> live), you wrote:

PH>> Filters have me stumped!

PH>> I have strings set up as follows:

PH>> TheBat Text
PH>> batSubject
PH>> TBUDL  Recipient
PH>> tbudl  Recipient
PH>> batRecipient

PH>> Source folder is inbox; destination folder, The Bat

PH>> I expected that any messages having any of those strings in the
PH>> associated locations would be sent to my The Bat folder.

RO> You're using five conditions. Unless you've setup all conditions as
RO> separate conditions (on the 'Alternate' tab) all of these five
RO> conditions have to met in order to trigger the filter.
RO> Since most of the messages on this list don't have 'bat' in their
RO> subject, the filter is bound to fail.

So the rules are ANDed? How do I get them to be ORed?

RO> To process the messages correctly, it's best to filter list messages
RO> based upon a string that's inserted by the list. A example would be:
RO> List-Id: 
RO> as string, present in the kludges (headers)
RO> Filtering on the list address among the recipients would work too, but
RO> that would have two matches when somebody's sending you the same
RO> message both on and off-list. (Some do.) That's why I prefer to filter
RO> on a string addded by the list server.

I see that I don not have the_bat.hlp. Can someone send it to me or
tell me where I can snarf a copy from?

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Filters

2003-03-17 Thread Pete Holsberg
Hello Wayne,

Saturday, March 15, 2003, 2:54:07 PM, you wrote:

WB> Saturday, March 15, 2003 at 11:41 AM (Pacific Time)

WB> Greetings TheBat! Users,

WB> Well, after installing NOD32 and TheBat plug-in, I found a new menu
WB> item in TheBat's Folder Menu called "check for viruses" One of the
WB> settings was "move the message to the quarantine folder" I did not
WB> have a quarantine folder but I tried it anyway. I ran it on a folder
WB> with about 600 messages and it was s slow. When it was done, it
WB> had found 172 "infected" messages and moved them to the newly created
WB> Quarantine folder.

Filters have me stumped!

I have strings set up as follows:

TheBat Text
batSubject
TBUDL  Recipient
tbudl  Recipient
batRecipient

Source folder is inbox; destination folder, The Bat

I expected that any messages having any of those strings in the
associated locations would be sent to my The Bat folder.

But not all of them are.

Are these strings interpreted as being surrounded by spaces?

What I'm trying to do is move all incoming emails to The Bat folder.

Suggestions are appreciated.
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Re[5]: Browser does not open

2003-03-14 Thread Pete Holsberg
Hello Mike,

Friday, March 14, 2003, 4:20:00 PM, you wrote:

MA> Hi Pete,

MA> Thursday, March 13, 2003, 4:30:09 AM, you wrote:

PH>> Hello Mike,


MA>>> It is because (now don't laugh!) some people use Word to design their
MA>>> web pages. Consequently, the link *has* to be live, otherwise it
MA>>> wouldn't work. To show you how good Word web pages are, Macromedia
MA>>> Dreamweaver contains a function which imports a Word web page, strips
MA>>> all the junk out of it, and makes it into a proper web page ;-)

PH>> Well, "all the junk" is an overstatement. It strips out about 60% and
PH>> leaves a bloated but not obese web page.

MA> Yeah, I've had to transfer documents from Word to a proper web
MA> designer i.e Dreamweaver and it's a pain, because even when you do
MA> strip the stuff out, the formatting is usually off.  However, it does
MA> help a lot. I've actually used it to get a web page in a condition
MA> that's almost fit to be mailed as well ;-)

I've switched from Microsoft Office to OpenOffice and their editor
produces MUCH cleaner HTML.

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Re[3]: Browser does not open

2003-03-13 Thread Pete Holsberg
Hello Brian,

Tuesday, March 11, 2003, 10:30:17 PM, you wrote:

BSM> Hello Thomas,

BSM> Tuesday, March 11, 2003, 7:22:05 PM, you wrote:

>> Hello Pete,

>> On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 21:53:40 -0500 GMT (12/03/03, 09:53 +0700 GMT),
>> Pete Holsberg wrote:

TF>>>> Now open a blank Word document. No, not in TB, in Word. Type in a URL,
TF>>>> it will get highlighted as it will in  TB, after you hit return. In
TF>>>> Word, URLs are as clickable as they are in TB, so click on it. Do IE
TF>>>> Open?

>>> "This operation has been cancelled due to restrictions in effect on
>>> this computer." 

>> Taraa! You have a problem with your Windows setting, not with TB.

TF>>>> Please bear in mind that I am trying to solve this "the Win98 way"; I
TF>>>> wouldn't know anything about XP.

>>> How about W2K? ;-)

>> Nope. I went from Win 3.1 straight to Win98 and never looked back. I
>> never looked further, either, because of financial restraints. ;-)

>> So, the error message you are reporting above does not trigger any
>> ideas over here, I have never seen it on Win98. So now I'll really
>> leave it to the XP gurus.


BSM> And here is a possible answer, per Microsoft - has to do with a
BSM> corrupted registry file:

BSM> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=310049


I tried their "Reset Web Settings" and it worked!!! Thanks.

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Re[3]: Browser does not open

2003-03-12 Thread Pete Holsberg
Hello Mike,

Wednesday, March 12, 2003, 9:00:46 PM, you wrote:

MA> Hi Thomas,

MA> Wednesday, March 12, 2003, 4:30:30 AM, you wrote:


TF>> I agree, Word should just call IE and let IE connect to the internet.
TF>> Alas, when I click on a URL in Word, my PFW says that "Word" (not IE)
TF>> is attempting to connnect to IP-address so-and-so, port 80. That's all
TF>> I know.

MA> It is because (now don't laugh!) some people use Word to design their
MA> web pages. Consequently, the link *has* to be live, otherwise it
MA> wouldn't work. To show you how good Word web pages are, Macromedia
MA> Dreamweaver contains a function which imports a Word web page, strips
MA> all the junk out of it, and makes it into a proper web page ;-)

Well, "all the junk" is an overstatement. It strips out about 60% and
leaves a bloated but not obese web page.
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Re[3]: Browser does not open

2003-03-12 Thread Pete Holsberg
Hello Brian,

Tuesday, March 11, 2003, 10:30:17 PM, you wrote:


BSM> And here is a possible answer, per Microsoft - has to do with a
BSM> corrupted registry file:

BSM> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=310049

Thanks. I found thatthe value for that key was the full pathname of "iexplorer.exe 
-nohome"

I removed the -nohome and rebooted but it didn't help.

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Re[2]: Browser does not open

2003-03-12 Thread Pete Holsberg
Hello Thomas,

Tuesday, March 11, 2003, 11:30:30 PM, you wrote:

TF> I agree, Word should just call IE and let IE connect to the internet.
TF> Alas, when I click on a URL in Word, my PFW says that "Word" (not IE)
TF> is attempting to connnect to IP-address so-and-so, port 80. That's all
TF> I know.


"PFW"??

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Re[2]: Browser does not open

2003-03-11 Thread Pete Holsberg
Hello Thomas,

Tuesday, March 11, 2003, 9:39:18 PM, you wrote:

TF> Hello Pete,

TF> On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:14:55 -0500 GMT (12/03/03, 05:14 +0700 GMT),
TF> Pete Holsberg wrote:

TF>>> My suggestion is to uninstall TB (save your message bases and config
TF>>> data first), re-download TB, and install the newly downloaded version.
TF>>> I think something got corrupted druing download (as happened to Mary a
TF>>> few months ago).

>> I just did that. It looks like the Reply-To is now OK but it still
>> can't do URLs.

TF> OK, we are one step further. ;-)

TF> Now open a blank Word document. No, not in TB, in Word. Type in a URL,
TF> it will get highlighted as it will in  TB, after you hit return. In
TF> Word, URLs are as clickable as they are in TB, so click on it. Do IE
TF> Open? (Please note that you  would need to let Word access the
TF> internet on remote port 80, so if you cannot actually connact to the
TF> site it may be your PFW settings. But that doesn't matter to us now -
TF> we only want to see whether IE receives the system call).

"This operation has been cancelled due to restrictions in effect on
this computer." 

TF> Please bear in mind that I am trying to solve this "the Win98 way"; I
TF> wouldn't know anything about XP.

How about W2K? ;-)

Thanks.




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Re[2]: Browser does not open

2003-03-11 Thread Pete Holsberg
Hello Thomas,

Monday, March 10, 2003, 10:38:16 PM, you wrote:

TF> You have two problems nobody here can duplicate:

TF> 1.) TB doesn't call http links correctly
TF> 2.) TB doesn't reply to the Reply-To header when you hit reply

TF> My suggestion is to uninstall TB (save your message bases and config
TF> data first), re-download TB, and install the newly downloaded version.
TF> I think something got corrupted druing download (as happened to Mary a
TF> few months ago).

I just did that. It looks like the Reply-To is now OK but it still
can't do URLs.

Thanks.
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Re[2]: Browser does not open

2003-03-10 Thread Pete Holsberg
Hello Urban,

Monday, March 10, 2003, 3:49:16 AM, you wrote:

U> Sunday, March 9, 2003, Pete Holsberg wrote:
>> In W2K, it's Tools / File Options. HTML details indicates "Opens with
>> Internet Explorer".

>> There's a "Change" button but selecting it asks me what I would like
>> to use to open HTML files with.

U> In Control Panel - Internet Options - Programs, there is a checkbox
U> that say's something like "Control if IE is used as standard browser".

U> I find it much more reliable than the Tools / File Options way. If
U> something/someone shanges the associations you get a message.

Already did that.

Thanks.
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Re[2]: Browser does not open

2003-03-09 Thread Pete Holsberg
Hello Thomas,

Sunday, March 9, 2003, 5:11:09 PM, you wrote:

TF> Hello Pete,

TF> On Sun, 09 Mar 2003 17:01:43 -0500 GMT (10/03/03, 05:01 +0700 GMT),
TF> Pete Holsberg wrote:

>>>> PS: How do I get TB to use the Reply-To address without copy & paste?

TF>>> Hit the Reply botton. If the message header contains a Reply-To
TF>>> header, TB will send the reply to that address.

>> I did that and it put just your address in the To: header!

TF> Now that's weird. A stray reply template or folder template that
TF> changes TB's default behaviour, maybe?

Where would I look for it?


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Re[2]: Browser does not open

2003-03-09 Thread Pete Holsberg
Hello Andre,

Sunday, March 9, 2003, 5:29:23 PM, you wrote:

AW> Hello Pete,

AW> On Sunday, March 9, 2003, 17:01:43 -0500 GMT (which was 23:01 local
AW> time), Pete Holsberg wrote:

>>>> PS: How do I get TB to use the Reply-To address without copy & paste?

TF>>> Hit the Reply botton. If the message header contains a Reply-To
TF>>> header, TB will send the reply to that address.

PH>> I did that and it put just your address in the To: header!

AW> And it's not just the name from the 'From' header and the reply-to
AW> address? If it's really the _address_ from the 'from' header you might
AW> want to post your reply template to let us see what's wrong.


Hello %OFromFName,

%ODateEn, %OTimeLongEn, you wrote:

%Quotes
%Cursor

-- 
%FromFName

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Re[2]: Browser does not open

2003-03-09 Thread Pete Holsberg
Hello Thomas,

Sunday, March 9, 2003, 3:51:59 PM, you wrote:

>> PS: How do I get TB to use the Reply-To address without copy & paste?

TF> Hit the Reply botton. If the message header contains a Reply-To
TF> header, TB will send the reply to that address.

I did that and it put just your address in the To: header!


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Re[3]: Browser does not open

2003-03-09 Thread Pete Holsberg
Hello Task,

Sunday, March 9, 2003, 4:20:42 PM, you wrote:

TC> Hi tbudl at thebat.dutaint.com:

TC> In the past Thomas was post a message.

TC> The  "TO" on your mail says: To: "Pete Holsberg on TBUDL"., i like it,
TC> can you post your template?


I didn't do that, honest!

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Re[2]: Browser does not open

2003-03-09 Thread Pete Holsberg
Hello Thomas,

Saturday, March 8, 2003, 11:34:44 PM, you wrote:

TF> Hello Pete,

TF> On Sat, 08 Mar 2003 18:29:16 -0500 GMT (09/03/03, 06:29 +0700 GMT),
TF> Pete Holsberg wrote:

>> When I double-click on a URL in an email message, nothing happens.

>> If I SHIFT-double-click on say
>> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/FAQ.html, I get

>> "http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/FAQ.html"; - The system cannot find
>> the file specified.

TF> By "the system" I would understand your Windows system is meant.

I don't know. The erro rmessage comes from TB.

TF> You
TF> say IE is your default browser, that would mean two things: 1.) IE is
TF> indeed installed on your system, 2.) .html files are associated with
TF> it.

TF> Go to Windows Explorer and check for View / Folder Options / Files
TF> Types. Scroll until you find HTML Document. And see whether it is
TF> correctly associated. Go to Edit... then again Edit.. and let us know
TF> what you see in that window entitled "Editing action for file type:
TF> HTML document".

In W2K, it's Tools / File Options. HTML details indicates "Opens with
Internet Explorer".

There's a "Change" button but selecting it asks me what I would like
to use to open HTML files with.

Thanks,
 Petemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Browser does not open

2003-03-08 Thread Pete Holsberg
Hello TBUDL,

When I double-click on a URL in an email message, nothing happens.

If I SHIFT-double-click on say http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/FAQ.html, I get

"http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/FAQ.html"; - The system cannot find
the file specified.

IE is my default browser. Options > Netwrok & Adminstration is set for
LAN, TCP/IP workstation, and account has administrator access.

What have I missed?
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