RE: Urgent ! Are there any window-Eyes users out there ?
Claude, Right now, the overall accessibility of TB has really declined because of the GUI toolkit being used. All I can suggest doing with Window-Eyes to make the message list read better is to assign a trigger delay of about 1 second to your up and down arrows, home, end, and delete key. Make sure that your delay comes before the speak current line command when reassigning how Window-Eyes handles these keys. If not, you might end up with that horrid double-speaking of messages when moving through the list. I've also found that a few controls can safely be reclassed, but here, you must be careful. For instance, buttons reclass successfully, as do edit fields. However, checkboxes will not read their current state regardless of what you do. When tabbing through some dialogs after reclassing all of the controls I could locate, I have seen TB crash and burn along with a WE hang up. I can only guess that Window-Eyes is polling a control in a way in which it was never designed. It's by far the most powerful E_mail client out there, but until Ritlabs acknowledges its significant blind user base, we can only speculate until they do something about the Windows controls they use for TB. If you like, I can send you some sets I made last year off list. They aren't stellar, but they may help make TB more usable with WE. Best Regards, Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Claude Renaud Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 7:15 AM To: Ritlabs TBBETA Mailing List Cc: Ritlabs TBDEV Mailing List; Ritlabs TBTECH Mailing List; Ritlabs TBUDL Mailing List Subject: Urgent ! Are there any window-Eyes users out there ? Hi all, I'm very sorry for the cross post but it is very very very important for me ... I'm about to switch of screen reader. I will let Jaws for Window-Eyes. And as I plan, of course, to keep on using The Bat! I would like to know if there were on one of the TB lists, a or several users of this screen reader and how they did to customize tb with it ... are there any set files (the equivalent of Jaws scripts) to use tb more efficiantly ? Big thanks in advance ! -- Greetings, Claude Renaud Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.16/504 - Release Date: 10/27/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.16/504 - Release Date: 10/27/2006 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
plain avnilla interface?
Hi folks, Given the vast amount of customization available in The Bat, I was wondering if it would somehow be possible to replace the current interface with standard Windows controls? i submitted this request several months back in the bugs database, but so far nothing has yet been done. The reason I ask is that I'm a low vision computer user so rely on screen reading software to translate the information on screen into synthetic speech. Some areas of the application work decently well, but others, most notably the configuration dialogs are much more difficult to navigate these days. I know that the layout still looks the same, but the underlying structure of the window classes has changed, and many access technology products don't know what to make of them. I love The Bat, and despite the change of accessibility I use it exclusively for my E-mail needs. I don't ask for an immediate change, but something like the old 3.0 kind of interface would be welcomed. What might be even better would be a completely skinnable interface, so those of us who prefer the plain vanilla interface for the sake of accessibility can use that one, while everyone who wants the more appealing eye candy can still use it. I'm using a product called Window-Eyes from http://www.GWMicro.com. Their developer's site is at http://www.gwmicro.com/Developers/ Anything you guys can do would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for such an excellent product so far. I look forward to any future improvements. -- Stephen Clower Email/.Net Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: AudioRabbit03 Yahoo: sclower2003 Skype: sclower Check out my little home on the web at http://www.steve-audio.net Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Aletrnatives to AVG? (The Janitor) [TBUDL Digest, Vol 207, Issue 12]
On 09 February 2006 - 06:46, William, on the matter of AVG, said Hello MFPA, SNIP I've used NOD for about five years, never been infected (I know I shouldn't say things like that), never had an FP. There's no need to quarantine - NOD will send samples to ESET automatically, if necessary. IMO, *no* email is so important that it can't be deleted as soon as NOD detects it, long before it gets anywhere near the MUA. Good as it is, TB! has always been flaky; its developers have enough to do without having to maintain yet more code. - 'Good as it is, TB! has always been flaky' Indeed. TB is very powerful and flexible, but, as you, say, a tad flaky at times. As intimated in earlier posts, I am having trouble getting TB's IMAP to work just right... (Message bodies not downloaded on sync but they DO download when a message is selected) Its OK ...but Outlook Express, Thunderbird and Opera M2 do it (IMAP) better for me on this score... A bug...or lack of transparency in IMAP set-up. 'The transparency' bit of course could include the operator not seeing the obvious... ;-) But, I still play with The Bat :-) PS I have found both AVG and avast! work OK with TB...but I don't use the plug-in... Steve L The Bat -current version -Professional. Briefly 3.70.07 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client (ver 9.0 preview 2): http://www.opera.com/mail/ Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP setup-message bodies not being downloaded
Hello Stuart TBUDL, Monday, February 6, 2006, 1:52:25 AM, you wrote: S Hello SL, S A reminder of what SL typed on: S Sunday, February 05, 2006 at 17:17:57 GMT +1100 S Hello tbudl, S I can't figure out why The Bat no longer is downloading message bodies S for my IMAP account. I am not sure if this started happening when I S upgraded from Home to Pro (not sure). (...although it worked fine...I S think...when I tried Voyager...) S In 'IMAP Fine Tune', I have 'retrieve message structures...' enabled. S In 'Manage IMAP Folders' , I have sync mode set to Full Messages/All S Messages' and I have tried 'New Messages' as well. SNIPOLA S It is working well here for me (home and pro). These are the settings S I would check as well. S Just noticed you are using 3.65.03, which is the official release S version, I think. The current beta 3.70.07 is now working correctly S with IMAP syncing and is the best version I have ever had for IMAP. S There are still some problems, but message downloading seems to be S fixed. Hmm...I am now in the Voyager...and IMAP...with the same settings as in Pro ver 3.65.03 on my hard drive is doing the same thing...ie not downloading message bodies(unless I click on the message) On another matter, I note that the latest/current version of Voyager (which basically is a type of the professional version) is 3.65.02 (not 3.65.03) Later I might see if I can find the the beta version (3.70.07???) and try that... -- Thanks, Stephenmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 8:49 AM Monday, 6 February 2006 Using The Bat! E-mail client ver 3.65.02 (Pro/Voyager...current official version). Win XP Serv Pack 2 etc... Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TBUDL Digest, Vol 207, Issue 3 [ The ultimate Virus...!!!??)
On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 05:30:24 +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Groetjes, Roelof The ultimate Virus, a self-installing copy of Bob. The Bat! 3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM The ultimate Virus, a self-installing copy of Bob. What the...??? :-) -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
MAPI and message.html
Hi all, We've just had our office email switched over to Microsoft Exchange, so I've switched to using the Exchange support (via MAPI) in TB! (3.0.1.33 Pro). Everything seems to work fine, except that every message I send gets a dreaded 'message.html' attached to it, even though I have everything set to use plain text. If I send a message through a POP3/SMTP account I have set up, then just a simple plain text message is sent. If I switch to Outlook 2003 and send a message, it sends a simple plain text message (since I've turned off all it's HTML/RTF formatting), so I know it can be done. I think there is some way that TB! is using the MAPI interface that causes the HTML message. Does anyone else have any thoughts on this? Have I missed something and can I prevent it from happening? Thanks very much, Steve -- Steve Longhurst steve at longsteve.com Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
AVG Certification Message
I am bamboozled. I get emails from others (not necessarily using The Bat!) that have this string embedded: No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.1.0 - Release Date: 18/02/2005 Is this text added automatically to The Bat messages or do I have to write my own macro to add this? (The AVG plug-in works fine.) In AVG 7 I have certify turned ON in both Incoming and Outgoing mail. I am still using Version 1.61 of The Bat! -- Paul S. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AVG Certification Message
Hello Dick, DH This signature is added by the AVG system if you select the DH option to do so. IMHO, it's totally ridiculous to add such a DH signature, especially when you have no attachment added. OK, I agree -- I just wanted to know HOW this is accomplished (for my own amusement. g) As I stated, I have VERIFY turned on in AVG for both INCOMING and OUTGOING mail but nothing is added. I thought this was the OPTION but no verification text is added to my emails. What's the trick? -- Paul Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail import
Hello Ravi, The best tool I've found for GMAIL is eMail2Pop which works perfectly with The Bat. http://www.email2pop.com -- Paul Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Stand Alone Bat-Type Free Caret Editor?
Perhaps this is a DUMB question, but is there a stand-alone editor that is similar to the one used in The Bat? I love free caret editing and appreciate the fact that many key-combos are the same as I use in WordStar. Any assistance appreciated. Paul Stephen Winnipeg PC User Group Inc. Current version is 2.11.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Address Book Query
I have created several groups under my Personal Address Book. Now when I create a message and pull up the Address Book I am always positioned at the last group I created, rather than at the entire address book. What do I modify so that when I press the address book icon on the To: line I go directly to my full address book rather than that last group I created? It's a pain having to reset this every time I reload TB. Paul Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Foreign Characters
I have been trying to figure out on my own how to insert characters with accents à, è, é etc. (The latter three characters were put into this message using a program called Foreign Characters which costs $$$.) Can I use TB directly to put these in? How? I apologize if this has been answered in some FAQ list. Paul Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Foreign Characters
Hello Joseph, JN It's cumbersome, but you can use the Windows Character Map, which JN depending on your configuration is somewhere under Accessories or JN System Tools. Thought there might have been something built into TB to make this process a bit quicker. Thanks! -- Best regards, Paul Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Feature Request I'd Like To See in The Bat!
Hi Everyone... I mentioned this feature request before, but nobody replied to my post. sigh When editing a message I'd like to see the status of: Auto Format Auto Wrap Justify on Auto Wrap displayed on the bottom of the edit screen where the character/line counter is shown. I have to mentally remember that I've pressed Ctrl-Shift-F when I Auto Format a paragraph and then remember to turn that format option off. I hope some of you die hard BAT! fans will ask the developers to add this feature into the next release. I've asked, but if they get more requests perhaps it will get a higher priority. Perhaps there is some way to accomplish this already. If so, please tell me. ** I learn a great deal about TB (and other software I have never ** heard about here in North America) just by reading your interesting ** posts. How about putting CITY/COUNTRY info into your posts for the next few days? I'd like to see where everyone is from! Merry Christmas to all. May 2003 bring us a super new Version 2.0 of TB and make it the Number 1 E-mail package in the world! Paul Stephen WINNIPEG, MANITOBA, CANADA __ Two Winnipeg Tidbits: Nia Vardalos, star/writer of My Big Fat Greek Wedding, was married in real life just down the street from me. That $5 million dollar movie has now taken in over US$215 million at the box office. Winnipeg was the original home of Winnie the Pooh. That's how the bear got its name. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
I Want to Go Back to Version 1.61
For me, there are too many bugs in Version 1.62. I have zapped the Install Program for Version 1.61. Has anybody got a link for the 1.61 Version? Paul Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Upgrading the Bat!
When doing a Bat upgrade (1.61 -- 1.62) do you just install the upgrade to the directory where the current version resides? Just want to make sure doing this doesn't clobber my current email. Thanks for any help... Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Additional Status Flags on Edit Window
One of the items I submitted to the Bat's wish list was for toggle flags on the bottom of the message edit window to show you the status of Auto Format, Justify on Autowrap. etc. Right now I have to mentally remember if I hit Ctrl-Shift-F to save me having to pull down the Utilities Menu to check the status of this flag. Now maybe there's an option to show this, but if there isn't and you'd like to see these things alongside Stream, Insert, etc. send the BAT! team a request for this to be in the next release. Paul Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Lost the Ability to Display Messages in My INBOX!
HELP! I had two sudden power outages this afternoon. Now I can see all my messages EXCEPT for those in my Inbox. The Unread/Totals are shown and there are two files in my Inbox folder, but as I said above, The Bat! won't display the messages and the Export box is greyed out. Is there ANYTHING I can do to fix this? Paul Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Lost the Ability to Display Messages in My INBOX!
PS HELP! PS I had two sudden power outages this afternoon. Now I can see all my PS messages EXCEPT for those in my Inbox. The Unread/Totals are shown and PS there are two files in my Inbox folder, but as I said above, The PS Bat! won't display the messages and the Export box is greyed out. PS Is there ANYTHING I can do to fix this? Out of desparation, I decided what would happen if I just moved the index file out of the Inbox folder? Well, as soon as I did that, I guess The Bat! re-indexed the Inbox message base and all is back to normal. Is that the usual recovery method? Paul Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Lost the Ability to Display Messages in My INBOX!
Hello Marck, MDP The recommended fix is to exit TB, delete the messages.tbi file (NB, MDP *not* the tbb file) and reload TB. The TBI file is the index file MDP and will be automatically rebuilt from the TBB contents when it MDP turns up missing. Thanks. I guess I must have received the above info directly from your brain. g Paul Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re-Filter Problem with Replied Message Rule
I have defined this rule (replied messages): Name: TOSPAMB Source Folder: SentBCC Move messages to folder: SPAMB Filtering Strings: SpamButcher -- Anywhere -- Yes Rule: Active Now I have messages with SpamButcher as the Sender in my SentBCC folder. Yet when I do a re-filter on Replied Messages, nothing is moved or found. Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong? The re-filter operation works fine with all my rules for incoming mail. Paul Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: increasing font size in composition windows in TB!
Hello Mary, MB Listers, please tell me if bold is a no-no, like caps, and MB I will conform. Otherwise, this really helps me see what I'm MB writing for the first time since I got this new machine. The font setting is local to the Bat's editor. So you can have the font really large and bolded and it won't look that way when received by another person's email client. The program doesn't support creation of HTML or rich-text although you can supposedly control the way incoming messages with such a format are displayed. Paul Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Any newbie help file?
Hello David, Monday, November 25, 2002, 9:50:55 PM, you wrote: DG New question -- can you edit an message you've downloaded? For DG example, I get some newsletters and want to keep portions of them, but DG delete all the advertizing. I got hooked on doing this in OL2002 and DG was wondering if you can do anything like that with The Bat! ? Just highlight the text you want to save, right click, and do a Copy to operation and the highlighted text will go to a file. Or, do a Save As operation and the whole message will be saved to a file and you can edit it later. Paul Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Palm Synch
Are you looking for address book sync. or email sync.? I'd love to have an address book sync. but have not found anything that will work, short of exporting all Palm addresses to a vcard and importing into TB. TB has a great address book that Iwould love to sync., if anyone know how. Steve At Friday, 12 April 2002, you wrote: Friday, April 12, 2002 Hello All, I read someplace that you could synch TB to a palm. Am I right about this or am I crazy? Sincerely, Francis X. Mendez Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PGP The Bat
Hello tbudl, I just installed PGP 7.0.3, created a new key pair, and am having trouble with The Bat finding the key pair. The Bat wants to create a new key pair for me. How do I point to the key already created? -- Best regards, Stephen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Norton Anti Virus 2001 and TB
Friday, February 15, 2002, 6:22:15 PM, you wrote: GL 1. In short, yes -- all mail goes via Norton Antivirus 2001. NAV GL presents a virtual POP3 server, which you specify as the server for GL incoming mail. The username parameter that you supply to that server GL specifies both the real target mail server and your username on that GL server. When you download mail, TB requests the mail from NAV, which GL connects to the real mail server and scans all messages before passing GL them to TB. GL 2. No, all that selecting Manually Configured Accounts does is GL enable the virtual POP3 server. You still need to tell TB from where GL it should get your messages. GL HTH, Does the same apply to NAV 2000? Regards Stephen -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Palm
Does any of you know of anyone who has written a Palm conduit to synchronize the Palm address book and TheBat! address book? Thanks Steve -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
PIM/e-mail solution
I am looking for a good PIM (personal information manager) and e- mail combination. I understand from many sources that TheBat is one of the best e-mail clients around. Does anyone have a recommendation of a good PIM that will pass addresses over to TheBat? I also need this PIM to have a robust conduit to a Palm device. I understand that the only PIM that currently integrates all of these functions is Outlook, but I will not use that product for all of the reasons that you-all already know. Please pass on your collective wisdom as to what you have found to work. I understand that Lotus Organizer and TheBat don't work that well together (though this is only one person's opinion.) Having at least a one-way connection is required, though I'd really like a two-way connection on the address book. Alternative solutions to address book integration are also welcome. Thanks Steve -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: Fwd: Re: Graphics?
Invisible gif's in the html, are also used to Track users when they are online. It can be used to setup a profile of when you read the email and WHO you send it to and When they read it. Yes http://www.sunworld.com/sunworldonline/swol-01-2000/swol-01-silicon.html has a simple article, and some relevant links about this sort of thing. -- Best regards, Stephen -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Bat! chokes on this ? (was Re: lost all messages in upgrade )
Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) wrote: Do you have a spell-checker activated in TB? Yes, when I open a "Compose" Window, I see that Automatic Checking is ticked. I tried composing with the problem message with Auto-Checking off, but it still happened - namely a seizure. I don't have any other external program doing spell-checking. -- Best regards, Stephen -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Flagging?
Dieter wrote: And flagging is a decent way for elderly people to manage tons of commercial mails which have to be queued prior to be processed g Hey, thanks for the tip g -- Stephen -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Import .bmf filer from Becky 2
All the message folders are there in a .bmf format that I can read with my text editor. Any ideas how I can get them back? I cannot think of anything, except asking the question on the Becky user group mailing list. I see it is listed at the url you gave me for the beta. Maybe you can get answer there, if not here. -- Best regards, Stephen -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Flagging?
Steve L. wrote: Meanwhile flagging is either on or off, nothing else, can be replicated with color which others can use for more than just on and off. IE, worthless. Except that it can be applied or removed by a single-click of mouse, that is, it is a mousey toggle? Also that it works in the Outbox, wherein the application of color don't seem to work for me (grayed out). Even the Ctrl-G for keyboard flagging doesn't work there. You made good point about how when creating custom folders that "flagging" column just appears by default, which is a bit unwieldly if not interesting in using flagging column. It would be nice to be able to set up default column headers for new folders, rather than just have them given and pre-set, for I don't think I can create a default 'new folder setup' in advance. I personally would like to have the "Use the Account Default Column settings" preticked for me, as I tick it every time anyway. -- Best regards, Stephen -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Import .bmf filer from Becky 2
Dear Bat folk Some time ago I had problems accessing my mail with TheBat and switched to Becky! v.2. Where do you get that version ? As http://www.rimarts.co.jp/ says up to ver 1.26 Do you mean revision 2 ? -- Stephen -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: lost all messages in upgrade
Dear Bat folk The next step can be made easier by deleting one registry key. Unfortunately I can't remember which one. If someone else posts the "converted message base" key, you can delete that, launch TB and be in business. Otherwise, folder by folder, use Tools - Import - From .MSB files. And import the appropriate files. This is tedious, but less so than exporting then importing. So there is new import Tool (Import from MSB) in ver 1.42 to deal with the old MSB files. I certainly didn't see that. Yes, that works well. Except for one (MSB). Bat chokes on importing this, and my experience with this shows a kind of advantage in also having exported in MSG form re backup. With earlier version I had exported all folder contents to MSG, and yet Bat also chokes and dies via import of this folder's x53 MSG contents if I select them all. On testing I found 2 messages out of 53 that it just cannot digest on import (whether singly or collectively), and it just hangs. They look the same as the others, (same size and makeup), so I wonder what it is about them? If I select the other 51, it will import them in one go no problem, but if I include either of the other two, it will crash. So it is good to have the folder contents in MSG form also, as thus one can pick and choose the files if there is a problem with importing them all at once via single MSB file. Well whatever, thanks for the advices on this thread, as I have learnt some very useful basics from it, and like the Bat more now. I guess it is good-bye to the MSB files. I should be deleting them soon. I don't know how I got into this difficulty with the upgrade. I installed the beta initially about a week ago, and took option of "keeping the MSB files". Then somehow at some stage a day later it was as though Bat had reverted back from the Beta, to ver 1.38 message base or whatever. It didn't seem right, and I wasn't systematic enough to grasp the issues properly at all; and sure enough, when later I did the upgrade to the final 1.42 I think Bat install got confused as much as me. :-) I did the Ctl-Shift-Alt-L deal of course, but it wasn't missing any folder, just showing no messages in any. And rebooting the registry etc, didn't make any different. Ancient history now. I was just too tired when installing the beta to be at my intuitive best, but it turned out well. -- See ya Stephen -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: OT: Re: Email Virus' and .vbs files
What are these .vbs files "officially" for anyway? Think of it as a second batch language for the OS (operating system). The other one is DOS batch language, with extension .bat (another one NOT to click on in a hurry). To run .vbe files as macros you need to have WSH (Windows Scripting Host) component installed. This is bundled in Win98, but just like any other optional component you can install it or remove it at will. VBScript can also be designed for HTML documents (placed inside script tags) rather than run on Win98 itself, but these commands would have to pass Internet Zone security settings in your browser, and assuming you have normal security setting you will be likely prompted if anything much risky is programmed. Bat seems safe, even with the most harmless script. I sent myself a HTML email with script SCRIPT language=VBScript MsgBox "Hello World!" /SCRIPT and bat doesn't even display Hello World, whereas loading the same web page without browser does display message (without prompt) via auto-popup. -- Best regards, Stephen -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: OT: Re: Email Virus' and .vbs files
I sent this script to myself and fetch the mail with Outlook Express 5. Nothing happens. When double-click on the attachment, the standard IE browser dialog appears (... What would you like to do with this file ? Open it / Save it to disk). Opening has no meaning now (gives an error), as the script works in browser only. However, seems nothing happens by itself, not even in OE. I fear I am getting SOT quickly, but quickly if you wish to demo to yourself what I meant, then use OE5 to create the message. You need to create a multipart/alternative one, not a multipart/mixed. Have your mail-sending format set to HTML mail. When composing, make sure "Source Edit" is available, (via View). Click on the Source tab, and throw in your script (either in header or in body of html). Then send to yourself (OE) and also CC to another account so you can pick it up via Bat also. You'll see that the script runs without prompt in OE upon viewing the message, but no scripting happens in Bat. BTW: typo in my previous post where I wrote and bat doesn't even display Hello World, whereas loading the same web page without browser does display message (without prompt) via auto-popup. should be "web page within browser" (within, not without). -- Best regards, Stephen -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
lost all messages in upgrade
Dear Bat folk I got ver 1.42 today, and installed it over an earlier version and all my messages disappeared. What did I do wrong I wonder? All the folders were there, but all of them showed 0 (zero) messages. I had a backup of the registry and MAIL folder, so I removed ver 1.42 and reinstalled ver 1.38, but I would like to use 1.42 for the flagging. Any advice? -- Best regards, Stephen -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! WishList
S So I think the title bar should at least say something like - View S Folder Bat of ServNet Sorted by Receive Time (Ascending) TF ServNet - Bat View Folder (...) TF Why not mention the name fo the folder first, as Netscape mentions the TF name of the web site first? This way, you don't have five buttons in TF the task bar saying "View Fo..." I didn't realize the taskbar uses the same material as the title bar of the window. Thanks for the heads-up. Yes, your idea is a good one, except I would put the folder name first, as that may be all I get to see in the taskbar.So I'll try again (below) for the title bar text idea. Bat - ServNet lots of space hereFolder Sorted by [Receive Time (Ascending)] -- Best regards, Stephen -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! WishList
Dear Bat folk Hm ... what's the use for keeping those message lists separately each other ? Flexibility? I thread some of my view folder message listing while I keep the mail list unthreaded. If there was only one list then I couldn't do this. IMO the Bat-cave of sorting and navigation would more quickly become intelligible (and navigable) to the average user if able to see in the folder title bar what sorting is in effect for a particular folder. As it is, one has toggle/view the message list to recall the sort, and AFAIK Bat doesn't even allow viewing of message list by a simple click of an icon, or a straight-ahead keyboard shortcut, such asL So I think the title bar should at least say something like - View Folder Bat of ServNet Sorted by Receive Time (Ascending) -- Best regards, Stephen -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
