Re[2]: %NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work

2001-04-30 Thread Jan Rifkinson

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Hello Peter,

On Tuesday, April 24, 2001 17:25:27 [ +0200 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to '%NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work':

Peter Still, I'd like to know what %NOSIGNCOMPLETE should be good for...

  I believe that if your account_option settings include 'Sign when
  completed', this macro will override the account setting
  automatically if you include it in a new msg, reply, forward,
  folder, AB entry templates.

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Re: %NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work

2001-04-30 Thread Peter Meyns

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On Monday, April 30, 2001 at 17:14 (my local time), Jan Rifkinson wrote
about %NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work:

JR   I believe that if your account_option settings include 'Sign when
JR   completed', this macro will override the account setting
JR   automatically if you include it in a new msg, reply, forward,
JR   folder, AB entry templates.

Hi Jan,
that is what I thought it should do. But it doesn't... %NOUSEPGP does the
job. :o)

Cheers
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Re[2]: %NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work

2001-04-30 Thread Jan Rifkinson

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Hello Peter,

On Monday, April 30, 2001 00:54:16 [ +0200 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to '%NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work':

JR   I believe that if your account_option settings include 'Sign when
JR   completed', this macro will override the account setting
JR   automatically if you include it in a new msg, reply, forward,
JR   folder, AB entry templates.

Peter [...] But it doesn't... %NOUSEPGP does the job.

  Hmm.  Well now I'm confused, too. Maybe someone else will jump
  in on this thread  straighten us both out.

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Re: %NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work

2001-04-25 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello Brian!

On Wednesday, April 25, 2001 at 12:58:13 AM you wrote:

 *shrug* Has the help file been updated?

1. As Thomas already pointed out, just make a full install of 1.51.
Then you will have the latest English help file.

2. If you can read German, d'l Dieter Hummel's German help file, which
is much more up-to-date.

3. The list of macros is - sadly - not sorted alphabetically but
systematically. I'd vote for alphabetically!



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Re: Updating (was:Re: %NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work)

2001-04-25 Thread Brian Clark

Hi Sergeant Thomas,

@ 2:15:09 AM on 4/25/2001, Thomas wrote:

...
BC It seems as if that were true (DLL and Registry entries needing
BC to be updated), that we'd be having big problems moving through
BC all of these betas that only come packed with a new executable.

T Wrong. The betas need only the executable, otherwise Max or Stefan
T will announce on the beta list that we have to download additional
T files.

OK, then that needs to be made perfectly clear some where - on either
the release download page, or especially on the Beta page when a
release is made. I haven't read any messages from Max or Stefan about
the need to install the full release again.

T I was talking about release versions. When a release version comes
T out, always use do a full install or don't be surprised about
T errors, or missing info from the help file, or the like.

T Now I've said it three times within one day. If that's not enough,
T I'm sorry. I won't repeat it anytime soon.

Good, then let someone with a little more patience answer questions
from now on and you won't have to.

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%NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work

2001-04-24 Thread Peter Meyns

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Hi all,

I have set my account properties to PGP-sign all my messages. Now there's a
mailing list I'm participating in where signatures are not wanted. I
entered %NOSIGNCOMPLETE in the templates of that particular folder, but to
no result. I still have to remove the checkmark Sign when completed in
Privacy manually. What have I missed?

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Re: %NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work

2001-04-24 Thread Brian Clark

Hi Peter,

@ 2:32:33 AM on 4/24/2001, Peter Meyns wrote:

...
PM I have set my account properties to PGP-sign all my messages. Now
PM there's a mailing list I'm participating in where signatures are
PM not wanted. I entered %NOSIGNCOMPLETE in the templates of that
PM particular folder, but to no result. I still have to remove the
PM checkmark Sign when completed in Privacy manually. What have I
PM missed?

Is there actually a macro called %NoSignComplete? If it is, it must be
new because I don't see it in the help file with the other PGP related
(yes, I know the help file macros is ancient history.. g).

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Re: %NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work

2001-04-24 Thread Brian Clark

@ 2:43:22 AM on 4/24/2001, Brian Clark wrote:

...
BC Is there actually a macro called %NoSignComplete? If it is, it must be
BC new because I don't see it in the help file with the other PGP related

..macros

BC (yes, I know the help file macros is ancient history.. g).

Make that, (yes, I know the help file is ancient history.. g).

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Re: %NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work

2001-04-24 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello Brian!

On Tuesday, April 24, 2001 at 8:48:39 AM you wrote:

BC Is there actually a macro called %NoSignComplete? If it is, it must be
BC new because I don't see it in the help file with the other PGP related

I don't think it is that new. And it is in the help file.


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Re: %NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work

2001-04-24 Thread Jan Rifkinson

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Hello Peter,

On Tuesday, April 24, 2001 08:32:33 [ +0200 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to '%NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work':

Peter I have set my account properties to PGP-sign all my messages. Now there's a
Peter mailing list I'm participating in where signatures are not wanted. I
Peter entered %NOSIGNCOMPLETE in the templates of that particular folder, but to
Peter no result. I still have to remove the checkmark Sign when completed in
Peter Privacy manually. What have I missed?

  It's not a direct answer to your question but you could use the
  %SIGNCOMPLETE macro in the AB entry for those lists that allow it
  thus avoiding the problem you cite.

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Re: %NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work

2001-04-24 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Peter,
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, at 08:32:33 +0200 you wrote:

PM I entered %NOSIGNCOMPLETE in the templates of that particular
PM folder, but to no result.

Maybe you have defined an Address Book template for that list?
The AB template has a higher priority, therefore your settings on
folder level would not be applied.

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Re: %NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work

2001-04-24 Thread Peter Meyns

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On Tuesday, April 24, 2001 at 08:43 (my local time), Brian Clark wrote
about %NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work:

BC Is there actually a macro called %NoSignComplete? If it is, it must be
BC new because I don't see it in the help file with the other PGP related
BC (yes, I know the help file macros is ancient history.. g).

Hi Brian,
in my macros list there are both, %SignComplete and %NoSignComplete, but
the latter doesn't work here... :-(
Maybe it's a new one - I got TB! only a couple of weeks ago, so the help
file should be up to date.

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Re: %NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work

2001-04-24 Thread Peter Meyns

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On Tuesday, April 24, 2001 at 13:45 (my local time), Jan Rifkinson wrote
about %NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work:

JR   It's not a direct answer to your question but you could use the
JR   %SIGNCOMPLETE macro in the AB entry for those lists that allow it
JR   thus avoiding the problem you cite.

Hi Jan,
sure, this will certainly solve my actual problem. I was just
wondering why the NoSign macro is mentioned when it doesn't work. Besides I
don't know if I perhaps have missed something.
I just got help from the german TB! list: the macro %NOUSEPGP does the job!
:o))

Cheers
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Re[2]: %NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work

2001-04-24 Thread Jan Rifkinson

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Hello Peter,

On Tuesday, April 24, 2001 14:51:07 [ +0200 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to '%NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work':

Peter I just got help from the german TB! list: the macro %NOUSEPGP does the job!

  I'm glad you got the help you needed  I learned something in the
  process as well.  I didn't know about this %NOUSEPGP macro --
  never heard of it before now but, then, there is always something
  new to learn with TB!. :-)

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Re: %NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work

2001-04-24 Thread Peter Meyns

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On Tuesday, April 24, 2001 at 15:37 (my local time), Jan Rifkinson wrote
about %NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work:

Peter I just got help from the german TB! list: the macro %NOUSEPGP does the job!

JR   I'm glad you got the help you needed  I learned something in the
JR   process as well.  I didn't know about this %NOUSEPGP macro --
JR   never heard of it before now but, then, there is always something
JR   new to learn with TB!. :-)

Hi Jan,
yes, it's really great. I enjoy these dicoveries very much. And I haven't
even started to build a proper addressbook! ;o))
Still, I'd like to know what %NOSIGNCOMPLETE should be good for...

Cheers
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Re: %NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work

2001-04-24 Thread Brian Clark

Hi Dierk,

@ 3:47:09 AM on 4/24/2001, Dierk Haasis wrote:

...
BC Is there actually a macro called %NoSignComplete? If it is, it
BC must be new because I don't see it in the help file with the
BC other PGP related

DH I don't think it is that new. And it is in the help file.

*shrug* Has the help file been updated? That macro isn't in the help
file version I have. :\ The only other documentation I have on macros
is a saved message from TBUDL quite a while ago listing the new AB
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Re[2]: %NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work

2001-04-24 Thread Jan Rifkinson

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Hello Brian,

On Tuesday, April 24, 2001 02:43:22 [ -0400 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to '%NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work':

Brian Is there actually a macro called %NoSignComplete? If it is, it must be
Brian new because I don't see it in the help file

  From the help file template macros

NOSIGNCOMPLETE - message editor only – disables automatic
signing of a message if it was selected by the %SIGNCOMPLETE
macro, using the default settings or manually with the menu
option

  Understanding it is something else again -- at least for me ;-)

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Re: %NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work

2001-04-24 Thread Brian Clark

Hi Jan,

@ 7:28:33 PM on 4/24/2001, Jan Rifkinson wrote:

...
Brian Is there actually a macro called %NoSignComplete? If it is, it must be
Brian new because I don't see it in the help file

JR   From the help file template macros

JR NOSIGNCOMPLETE - message editor only – disables automatic signing
JR of a message if it was selected by the %SIGNCOMPLETE macro, using
JR the default settings or manually with the menu option

My help file doesn't mention that macro. It only shows %SignComplete
and %EncryptComplete

I take it the help file has been updated. There's no telling what else
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Re[2]: %NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work

2001-04-24 Thread Jan Rifkinson

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Hello Brian,

On Tuesday, April 24, 2001 19:49:49 [ -0400 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to '%NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work':

Brian I take it the help file has been updated. There's no telling what else
Brian I've missed.

  Honestly, I think you are using a later version of TB! than I am.
  ;-o Do you think the help file is regressing as the program is
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Re: %NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work

2001-04-24 Thread Brian Clark

Hi Jan,

@ 8:03:59 PM on 4/24/2001, Jan Rifkinson wrote:

...
JR   Honestly, I think you are using a later version of TB! than I am.

Yes, because you were one of the first people I talked to on TBUDL
when I entered the game around 1.47 Halloween. And you say this is in
the Template Macros page? That makes three times I've looked for
%NoSignComplete on that page, and that time I think I read each line
twice. g Strange..

When you upgraded to the newest release, did you use the full install
package or did you just grab the lone executable?

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Re[2]: %NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work

2001-04-24 Thread Jan Rifkinson

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Hello Brian,

On Tuesday, April 24, 2001 20:11:33 [ -0400 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to my comment on '%NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work':

JR   Honestly, I think you are using a later version of TB! than I am.

  I am using v1.51  you are using v1.52.

Brian Yes, because you were one of the first people I talked to on TBUDL
Brian when I entered the game around 1.47 Halloween.

  About the time I started as well.

Brian And you say this is in
Brian the Template Macros page? That makes three times I've looked for
Brian %NoSignComplete on that page, and that time I think I read each line
Brian twice. g Strange..

  Really. :-\

  From the Help Menu
  Help Topics - Contetns - Message Template -
  The Complete List of Template Macros

  NoSignComplete is nestled between 'signcomplete' 
  'encryptcomplete'.

Brian When you upgraded to the newest release, did you use the full install
Brian package or did you just grab the lone executable?

  I think I used the executable.

  HTH

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Re: %NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work

2001-04-24 Thread Brian Clark

Hi Jan,

@ 9:20:28 PM on 4/24/2001, Jan Rifkinson wrote:

...
JR   From the Help Menu
JR   Help Topics - Contetns - Message Template -
JR   The Complete List of Template Macros

Yep, that's the place.

JR NoSignComplete is nestled between 'signcomplete' 
JR 'encryptcomplete'.

Nope, not in mine. :\

Brian When you upgraded to the newest release, did you use the full install
Brian package or did you just grab the lone executable?

JR   I think I used the executable.

Same here. The only full install I've done is the original 1.47
version I downloaded. Since, I've just worked my way through the
Betas (single executable).

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Re: %NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work

2001-04-24 Thread Thomas

Hello Brian,

On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 20:11:33 -0400 GMT (25/04/2001, 08:11 +0800 GMT),
Brian Clark wrote:

BC When you upgraded to the newest release, did you use the full install
BC package or did you just grab the lone executable?

I think this is your problem. Whenever a new release comes out, you
have to do the full install. This will bring your help file (and
others, like DLL's or reg entries) up to speed, too.

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Re: %NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work

2001-04-24 Thread Brian Clark

Hi Thomas,

@ 9:05:29 PM on 4/24/2001, Thomas wrote:

...
BC When you upgraded to the newest release, did you use the full
BC install package or did you just grab the lone executable?

T I think this is your problem. Whenever a new release comes out, you
T have to do the full install. This will bring your help file (and
T others, like DLL's or reg entries) up to speed, too.

It seems as if that were true (DLL and Registry entries needing to be
updated), that we'd be having big problems moving through all of these
betas that only come packed with a new executable. I can understand
the help file updates, but I haven't had (crossing fingers) really any
problems at all. Every Beta I've used has been quite stable.

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Re: %NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work

2001-04-24 Thread Thomas

Hello Jan,

On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 21:20:28 -0400 GMT (25/04/2001, 09:20 +0800 GMT),
Jan Rifkinson wrote:

Brian When you upgraded to the newest release, did you use the full install
Brian package or did you just grab the lone executable?

JR   I think I used the executable.

So don't be surprised if your help file and some dll's don't get
updated. Some of the strange errors reported on this list might also
result from updating only the executable.

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Updating (was:Re: %NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work)

2001-04-24 Thread Thomas

Hello Brian,

On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 01:43:23 -0400 GMT (25/04/2001, 13:43 +0800 GMT),
Brian Clark wrote:

T Whenever a new release comes out, you have to do the full install.
T This will bring your help file (and others, like DLL's or reg
T entries) up to speed, too.

BC It seems as if that were true (DLL and Registry entries needing to
BC be updated), that we'd be having big problems moving through all
BC of these betas that only come packed with a new executable.

Wrong. The betas need only the executable, otherwise Max or Stefan
will announce on the beta list that we have to download additional
files.

I was talking about release versions. When a release version comes out,
always use do a full install or don't be surprised about errors, or
missing info from the help file, or the like.

Now I've said it three times within one day. If that's not enough, I'm
sorry. I won't repeat it anytime soon.

BC Every Beta I've used has been quite stable.

Which has nothing to do with the issue at hand.

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