Abuse Notice - Email sent to TBUDL ?
Hello TBUDL, I am receiving notices of abuse on email sent to the TBUDL. As an example I have included one of the notices in the forwarded message below. Any ideals what is causing this, and how to eliminate. TIA! -- Best regards, Greg Strong TB! v1.60q/Post5 on Windows 98 This is a forwarded message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, July 15, 2002, 3:15:41 AM Subject: BLACK-HAT: We do not accept mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] [WORLDLESS.NET] ===8==Original message text=== O!Y There might not be anything wrong with your mail...but... Your relay [63.99.209.9] home.worldless.net is well known for relaying of spam - your mail is blocked or simply deleted at server stage. More info: http://spamcop.net/w3m?action=checkblockip=63.99.209.9 Failing Message == From:Greg Strong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Allie C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date:Monday, July 15, 2002, 6:07:37 AM Subject: Trouble checking mail with ALT F2 = Original message text === Hello Allie, Sunday, July 14, 2002, 9:49:54 PM, you wrote: ACM Disabling ZA didn't help and it was this part that was most ACM devastating in terms of the frustration. ACM There's one good thing that came out of the experience. This was my ACM sensitization to the fact that adverse software interactions are ACM common and can be very difficult to pick up since we often blame the ACM malfunctioning application as the direct cause of the problem. Though ACM the application itself will usually be the cause of problems confined ACM to use of the application itself, don't forget the lurking software ACM interaction ESPECIALLY when others cannot reproduce the problem you're ACM experiencing. Key words to me appear to be frustration, sensitization, interaction. Been there did that. Little OT, but from experience you didn't mention one other important factor/possibility that is of hardware being put in the mix. I had situation between 2 versions of SW installed simultaneously. It was suppose to be ok. The problem was intermittent. Did everything SW company/support engineer told me. I was on CIS forum and somebody had the sure solution. It didn't work. It has clearly been documented by others that installation of both versions of SW can work WITHOUT problems. I began to realize the possibility of hardware being part of the mix of the problem. It is the main reason I run dual boot system to separate the 2 versions of SW to isolate and help solve problem. Never did find the problem, and still occurs intermittently. I did LEARN from the experience. I've took that experience incorporated into use of other software and configuration to provide what I believe to be best solution for running MY system providing backup. -- Best regards, Greg Strong TB! v1.60q/Post5 on Windows 98 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/ == End of original message text === ===8===End of original message text=== Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Abuse Notice - Email sent to TBUDL ?
Hello TBUDL, I am receiving notices of abuse on email sent to the TBUDL. As an example I have included one of the notices in the forwarded message below. Any ideals what is causing this, and how to eliminate. TIA! -- Best regards, Greg Strong TB! v1.60q/Post5 on Windows 98 Sorry about the double post, but thought it appropriate to start new thread since most use threading by reference. I have just recently learned that references are captured in forwarded message, but didn't check header info since this was a abuse notice. This is a forwarded message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, July 15, 2002, 3:15:41 AM Subject: BLACK-HAT: We do not accept mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] [WORLDLESS.NET] ===8==Original message text=== O!Y There might not be anything wrong with your mail...but... Your relay [63.99.209.9] home.worldless.net is well known for relaying of spam - your mail is blocked or simply deleted at server stage. More info: http://spamcop.net/w3m?action=checkblockip=63.99.209.9 Failing Message == From:Greg Strong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Allie C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date:Monday, July 15, 2002, 6:07:37 AM Subject: Trouble checking mail with ALT F2 = Original message text === Hello Allie, Sunday, July 14, 2002, 9:49:54 PM, you wrote: ACM Disabling ZA didn't help and it was this part that was most ACM devastating in terms of the frustration. ACM There's one good thing that came out of the experience. This was my ACM sensitization to the fact that adverse software interactions are ACM common and can be very difficult to pick up since we often blame the ACM malfunctioning application as the direct cause of the problem. Though ACM the application itself will usually be the cause of problems confined ACM to use of the application itself, don't forget the lurking software ACM interaction ESPECIALLY when others cannot reproduce the problem you're ACM experiencing. Key words to me appear to be frustration, sensitization, interaction. Been there did that. Little OT, but from experience you didn't mention one other important factor/possibility that is of hardware being put in the mix. I had situation between 2 versions of SW installed simultaneously. It was suppose to be ok. The problem was intermittent. Did everything SW company/support engineer told me. I was on CIS forum and somebody had the sure solution. It didn't work. It has clearly been documented by others that installation of both versions of SW can work WITHOUT problems. I began to realize the possibility of hardware being part of the mix of the problem. It is the main reason I run dual boot system to separate the 2 versions of SW to isolate and help solve problem. Never did find the problem, and still occurs intermittently. I did LEARN from the experience. I've took that experience incorporated into use of other software and configuration to provide what I believe to be best solution for running MY system providing backup. -- Best regards, Greg Strong TB! v1.60q/Post5 on Windows 98 == End of original message text === ===8===End of original message text=== Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Abuse Notice - Email sent to TBUDL ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Greg, @15 July 2002, 09:15 -0500 (15:15 UK time) Greg Strong [GS] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to TBUDL: GS I am receiving notices of abuse on email sent to the TBUDL. As an GS example I have included one of the notices in the forwarded message GS below. GS Any ideals what is causing this, and how to eliminate. TIA! I am CC'ing the so called abuse authority who has written to you as well as the list. This is a forwarded message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, July 15, 2002, 3:15:41 AM Subject: BLACK-HAT: We do not accept mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] [WORLDLESS.NET] 1) That is a mis-association between your email address and the WORLDLESS.NET servers. ===8==Original message text=== O!Y There might not be anything wrong with your mail...but... Your relay [63.99.209.9] home.worldless.net is well known for relaying of spam - your mail is blocked or simply deleted at server stage. 2) 63.99.209.9 may well be an open relay BUT!!! 3) 63.99.209.9 is NOT the IP of home.worldless.net More info: http://spamcop.net/w3m?action=checkblockip=63.99.209.9 Gives legitimate reasons for 63.99.209.9 to be listed BUT (and this is an important point) 4) home.worldless.net is NOT listed at SpamCop and, as I've already said 63.99.209.9 is NOT home.worldless.net. home.worldless.net is 203.130.233.9 - not even close! The only UCE here is that from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to Greg. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9MufPOeQkq5KdzaARAufJAKDyJB8S4an2LMFbVJETScis+qmHJACeP9hg TFPlW7Ae+QjF7pCD6UyMzyQ= =r1SG -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Abuse Notice - Email sent to TBUDL ?
On Mon, 15 Jul 2002 at 09:26 GMT -0500 (15/07/2002 21:26 where you think I live) Greg Strong=[GS] wrote to TBUDL : I am receiving notices of abuse on email sent to the TBUDL. As an example I have included one of the notices in the forwarded message below. There might not be anything wrong with your mail...but... Your relay [63.99.209.9] home.worldless.net ^^ the notification not correct, home.worldless.net have ip address 203.130.233.9, seems his script not working accurate :-( is well known for relaying of spam - your mail is blocked or simply deleted at server stage. This message mentioned that one of your relay host with ip [63.99.209.9] known as one source of spammers. All of your posting seems through this host (check your header please). You can check out the link below : More info: http://spamcop.net/w3m?action=checkblockip=63.99.209.9 Please do not use relay through this SMTP, or notify to your ISP to not using this server as relay host. -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.61 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Abuse Notice - Email sent to TBUDL ?
Hello Marck, Monday, July 15, 2002, 10:18:38 AM, you wrote: MDP I am CC'ing the so called abuse authority who has written to you as MDP well as the list. MDP The only UCE here is that from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to Greg. Thanks! Sounds like me you doubt its authenticity. g -- Best regards, Greg Strong TB! v1.60q/Post5 on Windows 98 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Abuse Notice - Email sent to TBUDL ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Greg, @15 July 2002, 11:11 -0500 (17:11 UK time) Greg Strong [GS] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck D Pearlstone: MDP I am CC'ing the so called abuse authority who has written to you as MDP well as the list. MDP The only UCE here is that from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to Greg. GS Thanks! Sounds like me you doubt its authenticity. g Not so much doubt its authenticity as doubt its original intent. It is UCE as in Unsolicited (you didn't ask for it and it is not connected to anything you have done) Commercial (it is from a business) email (which it clearly is). ;-). - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9Mva6OeQkq5KdzaARAtp9AKCMIER7w1VzSzYi1qTx4D/CS3g6lACg0Beu r9clMCBaseC0IHCmlD5Dlyk= =eUUH -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Abuse Notice - Email sent to TBUDL ?
Hello Marck, On Mon, 15 Jul 2002 17:22:17 +0100 GMT (15/07/02, 23:22 +0700 GMT), Marck D Pearlstone wrote: MDP The only UCE here is that from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to Greg. GS Thanks! Sounds like me you doubt its authenticity. g MDP Not so much doubt its authenticity as doubt its original intent. Or doubt the sysad's/postmaster's qualification for his job? I think we've seen another one of those recently. There are still many open sysad positions in the classifieds - expect more untrained people to administer systems in the near future. The internet seems to grow faster than people can be trained. Sarcasm Result: Someone (maybe that software house in Seattle) will come up with a program that will replace sysad's. It will be a one-fits-all (i.e. this-fits-nobody). Or some intelligent lifeform - electron-based, not carbon-based; i.e. artificial intelligence - will suddenly come into existence and become sysad and do it for us humble humans. Or the internet will become utter chaos... /Sarcasm -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Don't forget your wife's name . . . that will mess up the love. (Roger, 8) Message reply created with The Bat! 1.61 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
