Re: Auto-respond filter not working

2010-06-21 Thread MAU
Hello Melissa,

Sorry for my very late reply.

 There are two different issues here: the fact that auto-reply is not 
 sent immediately and the fact that no reply at all is generated.

 One more issue to confuse matters...

 After several hours (seems quite random), some replies were generated
 and sent (a small batch at a time). Still not as many messages as the
 test attempts, but they just seemed to appear and send themselves
 whenever they felt like it; many hours later.

I have to agree with you, I did set up a test auto-responder myself and 
this is what I observed:

- The filter is tested every time an email is received, as it should be, 
and it is always triggered if the conditions are met. In my case, the 
condition is:

  Sender contains email-address (I always use 'contains', never 'is')
  
- When the filter is triggered, two things may happen:

1.- The auto-response is sent immediately. This happens most of the 
times.

2.- The response is just put in Outbox and it is never sent. If I select 
(or click on the button for) 'Send queued mail', it is not sent and I 
get a pop-up with 'Nothing to send' message. The only way to send it is 
by selecting the message in Outbox, open it in Editor and 'Send the 
message'. So, it looks like although the message is put in the Outbox it 
is not queued. This may be 'the bug', but I have no idea of why or 
when it happens.

I you are willing to open a bug report, I will add a note with my 
findings.  

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Re: Auto-respond filter not working

2010-06-21 Thread Melissa Reese
Hi Miguel,

On Monday, June 21, 2010, at 2:02:55 AM PST, you wrote:

 I you are willing to open a bug report, I will add a note with my
 findings.

Thank you for your testing and confirmation of the issue. I will open
a bug report today sometime (can't right now, as I'm just about out
the door for several hours). I may also see another possible issue
with the filtering system; but more on this after I have a chance to
do some more testing.

Thanks again!

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Re: Auto-respond filter not working

2010-06-17 Thread Mica Mijatovic
   ***^\ ._)~~
 ~( __ _o   Was another beautiful day, Wed, 16 Jun 2010, 
   @  @  at 13:41:27 -0700, when Melissa Reese wrote:

 Hi,

 I've set up an auto-respond filter, but it's not working. Though I set
 it to send the reply immediately, in five test attempts, it only
 created the reply message once, and instead of sending it immediately
 as specified in the filter, it just put a copy in the Outbox (and
 never sent).

 In the four other identical tests, nothing at all happened (no
 reply message was even created).

 I've just recently upgraded to v4 (from my trusty old v2.12), and
 this is the first time I've attempted to use the auto-responder in
 this version. Never had this problem in v2.

 Any ideas?  Thanks!

I have a quite fine idea, but feel it will not be very popular; namely
back to version 2.12. Why changing something that's working fine.

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Re: Auto-respond filter not working

2010-06-17 Thread Melissa Reese
Hi Mica,

On Thursday, June 17, 2010, at 12:36:14 AM PST, you wrote:

 I have a quite fine idea, but feel it will not be very popular;
 namely back to version 2.12. Why changing something that's working
 fine.

Now and again, my curiosity demands a bit of attention; hence my
sudden jump from v2 to v4. I do find this new version interesting, so
while an issue like this can be frustrating, since it's not absolutely
essential for me at the moment, I'm willing to see if it can be sorted
out within a reasonable bit of time. Thanks, however, for offering
your opinion! :)

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Re: Auto-respond filter not working

2010-06-17 Thread MAU
Hello Melissa,

 I've set up an auto-respond filter, but it's not working. Though I set
 it to send the reply immediately, in five test attempts, it only
 created the reply message once, and instead of sending it immediately
 as specified in the filter, it just put a copy in the Outbox (and
 never sent).

 In the four other identical tests, nothing at all happened (no
 reply message was even created).

There are two different issues here: the fact that auto-reply is not 
sent immediately and the fact that no reply at all is generated.

Let's get to the second one first. Are you sure that the filter was 
'tested' and 'not triggered'? You can see this in the statistics tab of 
the filter and in the log. 

- If the filter was tested and not triggered, what are the conditions in 
the filter?

- Id the filter was not even tested, do you have any other Incoming 
filters that may have triggered first avoiding the test of the 
auto-responder? If so, do you have any of these filers NOT set to 
'continue processing with other filters' in the options tab?

-- 
Best regards,

Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v4.2.10.1
My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com



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Re: Auto-respond filter not working

2010-06-17 Thread Mica Mijatovic
   ***^\ ._)~~
 ~( __ _o   Was another beautiful day, Thu, 17 Jun 2010, 
   @  @  at 02:11:18 -0700, when Melissa Reese wrote:

 Now and again, my curiosity demands a bit of attention; hence my
 sudden jump from v2 to v4. I do find this new version interesting, so
 while an issue like this can be frustrating, since it's not absolutely
 essential for me at the moment, I'm willing to see if it can be sorted
 out within a reasonable bit of time. Thanks, however, for offering
 your opinion! :)

I understand. You are welcome, and...good luck, with v4. (:

-- 
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Re: Auto-respond filter not working

2010-06-17 Thread Melissa Reese
Hi MAU,

On Thursday, June 17, 2010, at 2:47:39 AM PST, you wrote:

 There are two different issues here: the fact that auto-reply is not 
 sent immediately and the fact that no reply at all is generated.

One more issue to confuse matters...

After several hours (seems quite random), some replies were generated
and sent (a small batch at a time). Still not as many messages as the
test attempts, but they just seemed to appear and send themselves
whenever they felt like it; many hours later.

 Let's get to the second one first. Are you sure that the filter was 
 'tested' and 'not triggered'? You can see this in the statistics tab of
 the filter and in the log.

Yes, I've been watching the statistics tab. Now, with many more tests
(with two different filters), I have a 20% and 3.7% trigger rate
(the greater the number of test attempts, the lower the trigger
rate), and the send rate is still far lower than the number of
messages just sitting in the outbox (triggered, but never sent).

 - If the filter was tested and not triggered, what are the conditions in
 the filter?

Here's an example of what I'm testing.  I start with a mailto link:

mailto:willkayakforf...@gmx.com?subject=test%20auto%20replyBody=Test%20auto%20reply

Then, to be as specific--and basic--as I can in the filter, here are
the conditions:

Subject is test auto reply
AND Text is test auto reply

Options:

This filter is active

Send generated messages: Immediately

 - Id the filter was not even tested, do you have any other Incoming
 filters that may have triggered first avoiding the test of the
 auto-responder? If so, do you have any of these filers NOT set to
 'continue processing with other filters' in the options tab?

I've checked all this, and even moved my two test filters to the top
of the incoming filter list. No better luck.

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Auto-respond filter not working

2010-06-16 Thread Melissa Reese
Hi,

I've set up an auto-respond filter, but it's not working. Though I set
it to send the reply immediately, in five test attempts, it only
created the reply message once, and instead of sending it immediately
as specified in the filter, it just put a copy in the Outbox (and
never sent).

In the four other identical tests, nothing at all happened (no
reply message was even created).

I've just recently upgraded to v4 (from my trusty old v2.12), and
this is the first time I've attempted to use the auto-responder in
this version. Never had this problem in v2.

Any ideas?  Thanks!

-- 
Melissa

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