Automatic option to not download but leave on server

2000-01-30 Thread Doc Wonmug

Hello, Batmen and women,

  One option I use frequently in Datula and EdMax is to leave 
certain messages on the server without downloading them, so I can 
download them from a different location later.

  For example, I don't want to read all the messages for the Datula 
and EdMax lists while I'm at my office, unless they are from the 
developers themselves. So I have Datula filters set up to leave all 
messages for these lists on the server, and to download only those 
from the program developers. 

  I'd like to do the same thing in The Bat!, but this feature appears 
to be missing. Is it? (I know I can do it with the dispatcher, 
but I want to do it automatically.)
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Re: Automatic option to not download but leave on server

2000-01-30 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Doc,


On  Sunday, January 30, 2000  at  09:41:39 GMT +0900 (which was 4:41 PM where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:

 Hello, Batmen and women,

   I'd like to do the same thing in The Bat!, but this feature appears
 to be missing. Is it? (I know I can do it with the dispatcher, 
 but I want to do it automatically.)

 The Bat downloads the messages first, then it applies the appropriate
 filter sets, so what you request can't be done exactly the way you
 describe.  But there is a work around that might do what you need.
 If you set your work computer to Leave Messages on Server
 (Account-Properties-Mail Management), then you can create filters
 to move the unwanted mail to some other folder, leaving behind just
 the ones you want to keep.  Then your home computer can download all
 your messages.

 This solution is not quite as elegant as what you requested, but it
 should do the job.

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Re: Automatic option to not download but leave on server

2000-01-30 Thread Doc Wonmug

Januk Aggarwal wrote...

The Bat downloads the messages first, then it applies the appropriate
filter sets, so what you request can't be done exactly the way you
describe.  But there is a work around that might do what you need.

I already have separate folders for messages from the developer and 
others, but when I'm busy I don't want those others even to be 
downloaded. I guess since The Bat! doesn't do any automatic 
server-side filtering, there's no hope of getting this one.

On the other hand, The Bat! has some options not in Datula, such as 
automatically marking a message as read. It would be nice to combine 
the best feature of both programs -- Batula!

Batula! would have The Bat!'s editor, MailTicker(TM) and sorting 
rules interface, Datula's Japanese-language handling and server-side 
filtering and configurable key assignment and one-key navigation 
across folders, etc. Great idea, no?


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Re: Automatic option to not download but leave on server

2000-01-30 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

Hi Januk,

On  31 January 2000  at  16:53:50 GMT -0800 (which was 00:53 where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points:

   I'd  like  to  do  the  same  thing in The Bat!, but this feature
 appears  to  be  missing.  Is  it?  (I  know  I  can do it with the
 dispatcher, but I want to do it automatically.)

JA The Bat downloads the messages first, then it applies the
JA appropriate filter sets, so what you request can't be done exactly
JA the way you describe. But there is a work around that might do
JA what you need. If you set your work computer to Leave Messages on
JA Server (Account-Properties-Mail Management), then you can create
JA filters to move the unwanted mail to some other folder, leaving
JA behind just the ones you want to keep. Then your home computer can
JA download all your messages.

JA  This solution is not quite as elegant as what you requested, but it
JA  should do the job.

OTOH by using "Leave messages on the server" and using filters at each
end,  you  can  have  the filters "Delete the message from the server"
appropriately using the "Actions" tab for the filters.

HTH

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Re: Automatic option to not download but leave on server

2000-01-30 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Doc,


On  Sunday, January 30, 2000  at  11:02:47 GMT +0900 (which was 6:02 PM where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:


 Januk Aggarwal wrote...

The Bat downloads the messages first, then it applies the appropriate
filter sets, so what you request can't be done exactly the way you
describe.  But there is a work around that might do what you need.

 I already have separate folders for messages from the developer and 
 others, but when I'm busy I don't want those others even to be 
 downloaded.

 Just an extension to what I was saying earlier, do you know about the
 option in the filters to delete the message when applied?  For
 example, you can create an incoming filter for all messages from that
 list which are not from the developers.  Then under the Actions tab,
 you can delete them.  So if you set TB to leave messages on the
 server, you will download the messages, but you'll never see them.
 They will be deleted as soon as they hit the Inbox.  But they will
 still be on the server if you want to download them to another
 machine.  Just an idea.  I still agree with you that filters should
 be applied *before* downloading, but unless you restrict the search
 areas to the headers, this isn't practical.

 I guess since The Bat! doesn't do any automatic server-side
 filtering, there's no hope of getting this one.

 Not yet. Hopefully they will implement it in version 2. But I don't
 recall anyone mentioning this feature.

 On the other hand, The Bat! has some options not in Datula, such as 
 automatically marking a message as read. It would be nice to combine 
 the best feature of both programs -- Batula!

 That's a great idea.  Now you just have to get everyone to agree what
 are the *best* features of each. :)

 Batula! would have The Bat!'s editor, MailTicker(TM) and sorting 
 rules interface,

 Agreed.

 Datula's Japanese-language handling and server-side filtering and
 configurable key assignment and one-key navigation across folders,
 etc. Great idea, no?

 I've never used Datula, so I'll believe you about the quality of the
 filtering. But I would *love* the one-key navigation across folders.
 There have been rumors that it will be supported in version 2. I'm
 getting the feeling that version 2 won't be at all similar to 1.xx. I
 hope that's for the better, although 1.xx is going to be a hard act
 to follow.

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