Re: Exit warning dialog confusion
Hi Curtis, Thursday, April 27, 2006, 2:13:54 PM, you wrote: I've always looked at the exit warning dialog with some bemused confusion. It says: I agree entirely, I've gone through phases where I thought I understood it and then realised I didn't! I'm currently not understanding it, so hence this mail! -- Warmest regards, Paul Created using TheBat! 3.80.03 on Windows XP Current version is 3.80.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exit warning dialog confusion
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 08:13:54 -0500, Curtis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMO, 'Abort' and 'No' are confusing, or is my brain wired in a funky way, as it well may be. Agreed request for improvement/correction supported. -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exit warning dialog confusion
Howdy Curtis, Thursday, April 27, 2006, 2:13:54 PM, Curtis wrotened: Curtis I've always looked at the exit warning dialog with some Curtis bemused confusion. You and me both because I am yet to find a button that does anything except for the Yes button which only seems to make the dialogue disappear. -- Have Fun, Ben Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] crashing The Bat! v3.72.12 (Beta) falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Change is inevitable, except from vending machines. Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Exit warning dialog confusion
Hi all, I've always looked at the exit warning dialog with some bemused confusion. It says: Some tasks are now active. Do you want to exit when they are finished? The choices are: Yes - I expect it to exit when tasks are finished. No - Hmmm . No, I wish not to exit? Or No, I wish to exit, but I wish not to wait for tasks to complete? Abort - Abort what??? Abort the tasks and exit? Or abort the shutdown? Wouldn't these choices be clearer? Yes - I expect it to exit when tasks are finished. No (Exit Now) Cancel - that sort of has a universal meaning. Get rid of the dialog and let's get on with it. IMO, 'Abort' and 'No' are confusing, or is my brain wired in a funky way, as it well may be. -- -= Curtis =- The Bat! v3.73 Release Candidate 1 / http://specs.aimlink.name ...Graduate Of The Uncle Fester Keith Moon School of hair styling pgp6VetOlG3it.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exit warning dialog confusion
Hello Curtis, On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] C IMO, 'Abort' and 'No' are confusing, or is my brain wired in a funky C way, as it well may be. No, you have made a very reasonable and sensible suggestion which my funkily wired brain completely agrees with :-) -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.73 Release Candidate 1 with SpamPal POP3 account and no Plug-ins | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exit warning dialog confusion
Hello Richard, On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:25:03 +0200 GMT (27/04/2006, 20:25 +0700 GMT), Richard Wakeford wrote: C IMO, 'Abort' and 'No' are confusing, or is my brain wired in a funky C way, as it well may be. RW No, you have made a very reasonable and sensible suggestion which my RW funkily wired brain completely agrees with :-) AOL -- Cheers, Thomas. Wanted: $10,000 reward. Schroedinger's Cat. Dead or Alive. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.72.11 (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exit warning dialog confusion
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 27 Apr 2006, @ @ at 08:13:54 -0500, when Curtis wrote: I've always looked at the exit warning dialog with some bemused confusion. It says: Some tasks are now active. Do you want to exit when they are finished? The choices are: Yes - I expect it to exit when tasks are finished. The correct expectation; according to the written, of course.[1] No - Hmmm . No, I wish not to exit? Or No, I wish to exit, but I wish not to wait for tasks to complete? You don't want to exit when tasks are finished. (The thing finishes the tasks, and remains open.) Abort - Abort what??? Abort the tasks and exit? Or abort the shutdown? As nothing happened, that is as you hadn't this message box ever evoked. As you were pregnant and then you decided not to be anymore.[2] Wouldn't these choices be clearer? Yes - I expect it to exit when tasks are finished. Yep. No (Exit Now) Check it again. (: Cancel - that sort of has a universal meaning. Get rid of the dialog and let's get on with it. Yep. The term Abort in the context is...doesn't matter, Cancel is better, much better. IMO, 'Abort' and 'No' are confusing, or is my brain wired in a funky way, as it well may be. If you perceive it as it well may be, than it is still a good sign. (-: _ [1] Although it happens never, in practice (or it does happen, but on Saint Never, in the Stubs Valley, when willow bears grapes, et sim.), so TB has to be shut down / killed / knocked out / (ex)terminated via a Task Manager or similar. [2] Though these tasks TB is talking about couldn't be finished even for the critical 3 months, if you would decide to let them be finished. At least it never happened so far, to anyone, a male or female. As I know. - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 603 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.6, and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector Linuxes via Wine... ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEVAwUBRFD1MLSpHvHEUtv8AQgKvggAoQMjtYsW7GX2yGHvlwEk2CbZb+R2rCl4 jonBql016kBSYp3SWCKC7BN925YpTeQ57U2wseEw6MxdWPrItRA3s6EuDVDVDkuM uZNTdQyi3K+rpqJk1ji3s6YOg9uM/gKo4ahezZEv2haI0iA6Z6glPosqgPkVyIah 6MKrMoLtD+aHPA8D/Kqrq95KWZwtQ37M/wIFp6InNRNJ4g1FyBr3UP26u5m43nrG jEMp5ihXbx/G4+HvGdFSRTkU4DX46/IWfgH/6l/Njk+T+Cptg+C8QNuWYRGeE3ZG K82D1FHu9g6XAcmCZ+/xep8fSzpIoah3Bo/31MXFSpjPU+oK3P0WDA== =v/Sx -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exit warning dialog confusion
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 18:45:38 +0200, Mica Mijatovic said: If you perceive it as it well may be, than it is still a good sign. (-: That's a relief, although what makes things more troublesome with the dialog is that the No and Abort buttons never seem to do anything, as you refer to in [1] and [2]. So I've never been really able to confirm what they actually are supposed to do and as a result, relieve my confusion. - -- - -= Curtis =- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQCVAwUBRFD34PqOF4WkbeMgAQPfmgP9GBHhzBJgSw3gAZoFeZrOl1m3s6wT7NgC AEyB/NT4+eG4zB94sXvT5NgtZ3Jxk/rtmnJVMwU6yHBRkeF8TZ9O9d2CpUkxGzPu nOOW3TyMnwZn+43SCQFCItUGKAlMPXgQyNhHNNivrpYVifWl7E5MuQDcLp82ZfGY DH6cet75uvk= =62vH -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exit warning dialog confusion
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 27 Apr 2006, @ @ at 11:56:26 -0500, when Curtis wrote: although what makes things more troublesome with the dialog is that the No and Abort buttons never seem to do anything, as you refer to in [1] and [2]. So I've never been really able to confirm what they actually are supposed to do and as a result, relieve my confusion. Correct. This is the reason why this dialog box should consist of just this message instead... |--| | | | Me, The Bat!, got stuck. | | | | Please kill me.| | | |OK | | | |--| ...where the button OK is evoking Task Manager (or is killing the process directly in some other way). The only alternative is to fix this thing, eventually, since it happens for years already, and if I recall well, it has something with the way TB manages some external things (plugins, IMAP server[s]...) and seemingly gets stuck being in a way loopingly busy with them. (I use just one, and very light|ly, plugin (MyMacros), serving me just to tease the version 3, by all chances endlessly, in my Earth Log, and from that time on this dialog box calling for abortion my eyes had no the pleasure to see.) - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 603 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.6, and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector Linuxes via Wine... ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEVAwUBRFENiLSpHvHEUtv8AQiSnAf9EEzaxQ5QwPzc+ocokz4H2saItzUukCmk Ts/R2MrXydzNkZR+LHLqeeU7UnUSBkSq6wA2zdq3GCxSdjZ3/1ZqJNok9tC4Fhlb ZHam0BKscBMVqK20BLr5+Wah0xXJnh9viLW/4JbhINsrbygihdk6QBZZMIDzBiAP G+ty3TqEkP3TeWPdBJgS6/qZ0x7QaTMqRRRFM1qPAYM4Uodh1jx1eKU1D9Hb2Sce Uva/2meX5I/uXcOt0xjVQ1++5hYvo3DikwkmxVAESupuKLgomsnSq6t4C/O7hgkw gL3mjz5x3BODM8NBcpUdscQOgaeOcaoFDwhTIrnYV6uF/JgnhJmC/A== =R5lD -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exit warning dialog confusion
Curtis, On 27-04-2006 15:13, you [C] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: C I've always looked at the exit warning dialog with some bemused C confusion. Me too. C IMO, 'Abort' and 'No' are confusing, or is my brain wired in a funky C way, as it well may be. Agree. However, I'd like a Force - exit although there are tasks (often with IMAP there are hanging tasks). -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.72.04 (Beta) Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG /extras env. 4 POP3, 9 IMAP (UWIMAP 2002e) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 200K+ msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 /os Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
