Re[2]: Filters for Spam
Hello ~John, Friday, February 21, 2003, 6:22:26 PM, you wrote: ~ Paul Smithson wrote: P Why you would include a £ symbol ~ Why would you use that symbol in a subject line ? You make a very valid point :))) Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filters for Spam
Here is a filter that gets rid of alot of spam for me: [strings] £|¥|¤|§|«|»|À|Á|Å|µ|¿ [Location] Subject [Presence] Yes -- Regards, ~John Using The Bat! v1.62i on Windows 2000 5.0 (Build 2195) 2 Hard-drives (6 40 gig) 439 Mb RAM AMD 455 Processor. Programs running in the background: Grisoft AVG:6.0.456 Database:256 (last updated 2/18/03) MyIE2, WordWeb Pro, and TrayBar 2.5 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters for Spam
Hello John, Friday, February 21, 2003, 5:23:51 PM, you wrote: ~ Here is a filter that gets rid of alot of spam for me: ~ [strings] ~ £|¥|¤|§|«|»|À|Á|Å|µ|¿ Why you would include a £ symbol. As a Brit I feel pretty insulted that my genuine e-mails could be filtered out as spam just because I used the symbol of my countries currency (one of the World's major currencies). If you are going to go to such extremes to filter out spam why not add this one a|b|c|d|e|f|g|h|i|j|k That way you'd be certain to never receive spam :))) Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters for Spam
I wish there was an easy way to copy filters between accounts or make a master set of filters that work on all accounts... I get the same spam coming to multiple email address and have to delete them over and over in 1 session... Friday, February 21, 2003, 11:23:51 AM, you wrote: Here is a filter that gets rid of alot of spam for me: [strings] £|¥|¤|§|«|»|À|Á|Å|µ|¿ [Location] Subject [Presence] Yes -- Regards, ~John Using The Bat! v1.62i on Windows 2000 5.0 (Build 2195) 2 Hard-drives (6 40 gig) 439 Mb RAM AMD 455 Processor. Programs running in the background: Grisoft AVG:6.0.456 Database:256 (last updated 2/18/03) MyIE2, WordWeb Pro, and TrayBar 2.5 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters for Spam
Hello Paul Smithson, On or about Friday, February 21, 2003 at 18:00:16GMT + (which was 1:00 PM in the tropics where I live) Paul Smithson postulated, ruminated and made these points on the subject of Filters for Spam: PS Hello John, PS Friday, February 21, 2003, 5:23:51 PM, you wrote: ~ Here is a filter that gets rid of alot of spam for me: ~ [strings] £|¥|¤|§|«|»|À|Á|Å|µ|¿ PS Why you would include a £ symbol. PS As a Brit I feel pretty insulted that my genuine e-mails PS could be filtered out as spam just because I used the symbol PS of my countries currency (one of the World's major currencies). As a Brit you should have sense enough to simply EXCLUDE that symbol from the list if you wish, and not be 'insulted!' These combinations often show up in headers from Asian spam sites, which is why it is included in the filter. Any user living in a region where any of the symbols may be used, should of course exclude those symbols. This will reduce the effectiveness of the list of symbols though. I also include $ in my spam filter for those who insist on sending me $AVE $$ spams too! In your case that would be SAVE £, which would be equally, but regionally spam'ish. A user in Japan would likely receive SAVE ¥¥¥, etc. Example from a recent Asian spam: Subject: ¡m¤@Ó§Y£±N¾î±½½u¤W¹£CÀ¸ªº¤j«¬¹qª±½Ï¥Í¡A¡i¨M¾Ô¡j¹CÀ¸±N©ó12¤ë ¤£¤¶©«±À¥X¡A¦¹¹CÀ¸¦bÁú°£ê¤w¸g±Æ¦W¨ì¤F²Ä1¦W¡A¦b¤¤°ê¤j³°¤w®Ê¤É ±Æ¦W²Ä2¦W£¡C¥Ø«e¦b¥xÆW±N©ó2003¦~¤@¤ë¤¤¥¿¦¡¤£W½u¶}¥ -- Warmest tropical wishes, Spike Paying for movies is like paying for sex - if it's free it feels better. /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Against HTML Mail \ / If it aint a webpage it shouldn't be HTML. XSay NO! to bloatmail - ban HTML mail! / \ Ask Spikey, he hates everything (HTML). -- Using TheBat! v1.62i hamstrung by Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1' -- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters for Spam
Hello Paul, Friday, February 21, 2003, 12:00:16 PM, you wrote: PS As a Brit I feel pretty insulted that my genuine PS e-mails could be filtered out as spam just because I PS used the symbol of my countries currency (one of the PS World's major currencies). If you are going to go to PS such extremes to filter out spam why not add this one PS a|b|c|d|e|f|g|h|i|j|k PS That way you'd be certain to never receive spam :))) Roughly 1/3 of the spam I see looks like this: ¼ö½Å°ÅºÎÇÒ ¸ÞÀÏÁÖ¼Ò¸¦ , with no standard ASCII chars anywhere south of the header. -wittig http://www.robertwittig.com/ A business is as honest as its advertising. . Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters for Spam
Paul Smithson wrote: P Why you would include a £ symbol Why would you use that symbol in a subject line ? -- Regards, ~John Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters for Spam
Paul Smithson wrote: P As a Brit I feel pretty insulted that my genuine P e-mails could be filtered out as spam just because I P used the symbol of my countries currency If someone is using currency symbols in the subject line, it is probably because they are wanting to sell something. Also you don't have to worry about your email being filtered, because all mail to this list goes to my theBat folder. I sort mail to all folders and then I have the known filter after these and then my spam filters. -- Regards, ~John Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters for Spam
Hi Spike, on Fri, 21 Feb 2003 13:21:46 -0500GMT (21.02.03, 19:21 +0100GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : S Example from a recent Asian spam: S Subject: ¡m¤@Ó§Y£±N¾î±½½u¤W¹£CÀ¸ªº¤j«¬¹qª±½Ï¥Í¡A¡i¨M¾Ô¡j¹CÀ¸±N©ó12¤ë S ¤£¤¶©«±À¥X¡A¦¹¹CÀ¸¦bÁú°£ê¤w¸g±Æ¦W¨ì¤F²Ä1¦W¡A¦b¤¤°ê¤j³°¤w®Ê¤É S ±Æ¦W²Ä2¦W£¡C¥Ø«e¦b¥xÆW±N©ó2003¦~¤@¤ë¤¤¥¿¦¡¤£W½u¶}¥ The appearing of the ¥ character in this text has nothing to do with money. It is just one of the chars used to display Japanese or Chinese fonts if they're not installed on your computer. I found lots of these when I recently downloaded some East-Asian music. *S* -- Cheers Peter 'To learn more about paranoids, follow them around!' Winamp currently playing: ±çµúµX - ¨â¥Íªá Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters for Spam
Hi Robert, on Fri, 21 Feb 2003 12:25:52 -0600GMT (21.02.03, 19:25 +0100GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : RCW Roughly 1/3 of the spam I see looks like this: RCW ¼ö½Å°ÅºÎÇÒ ¸ÞÀÏÁÖ¼Ò¸¦ , with no standard ASCII chars anywhere south of RCW the header. It only means that you haven't installed the right fonts on your computer (kyrillic perhaps?)... ;-) -- Cheers Peter Computers are like air conditioners: they stop working properly when you open Windows. Winamp currently playing: Roberta Flack - killing me softly with his song Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters for Spam
Hello ~John, Here is a filter that gets rid of alot of spam for me: [strings] £ You would drop many messages from me if you and I exchanged business e-mail :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters for Spam
On Friday, February 21, 2003, 1:21 PM, you wrote: S I wish there was an easy way to copy filters between accounts or make a master S set of filters that work on all accounts... I get the same spam coming to S multiple email address and have to delete them over and over in 1 session... right-click the filter, COPY. go to new account, go to filters, PASTE. it does work! -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters for Spam
Hello Miguel A. Urech, On or about Friday, February 21, 2003 at 19:45:04GMT +0100 (which was 1:45 PM in the tropics where I live) Miguel A. Urech posted: [strings] £ MAU You would drop many messages from me if you and I exchanged business MAU e-mail :) If you send me mail with $, £ or any other currency symbol in the Subject line, you would certainly be sent to my TRASH folder, as you are trying to sell me something I did not request. If, in the text of the body, you tell me that for $20.00 I can have something which we discussed earlier, it would NOT! Words to the wise?? -- Warmest tropical wishes, Spike A committee's real objective is not to reach a decision but to avoid it at all costs! /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Against HTML Mail \ / If it aint a webpage it shouldn't be HTML. XSay NO! to bloatmail - ban HTML mail! / \ Ask Spikey, he hates everything (HTML). -- Using TheBat! v1.62i hamstrung by Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1' -- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters for Spam
Miguel A. Urech wrote: M You would drop many messages from me if you and I exchanged business M e-mail :) No, I would not. If I was going to do business with you, I would add you to my address book, then my Known filter would catch your E-Mail before my Spam filters would. -- Regards, ~John Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters for Spam
Hello ~John, No, I would not. If I was going to do business with you, I would add you to my address book, then my Known filter would catch your E-Mail before my Spam filters would. You are right. Anyway, I would never do business with someone whose name I can't pronounce. How the h*** you pronounce ~John starting with the ~? ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters for Spam
Hello Spike, If you send me mail with $, £ or any other currency symbol in the Subject line, you would certainly be sent to my TRASH folder, as you are trying to sell me something I did not request. I said: If we were doing business... :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Not 20 , not 20 but 20 (was: filters for Spam)
Hello Bats, Now John did not see I was planning to donate him 20 ¤! :-)) alas, now it is too late... -- Best Whishes, Mark using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/7 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Not 20 , not 20 but 20 (was: filters for Spam)
Hello Mark, Friday, February 21, 2003, 8:23:03 PM, you wrote: MP Hello Bats, MP Now John did not see I was planning to donate him 20 ¤! :-)) MP alas, now it is too late... Strange, in the original message, the subject was: Not 20 ¥, not 20 £ but 20 ¤ Anyone any idea why this was changed, or do I have to ask this in the Beta list? -- Best Whishes, Mark using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/7 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters for Spam
Miguel A. Urech wrote: M You are right. Anyway, I would never do business with someone whose M name I can't pronounce. How the h*** you pronounce ~John starting with M the ~? ;-) Very carefully! LOL -- Regards, ~John Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Not 20 , not 20 but 20 (was: filters for Spam)
Mark Partous wrote: M Now John did not see I was planning to donate him 20 ¤! :-)) M alas, now it is too late... As Homer Simpson would say, DOH !!! -- Regards, ~John Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters for Spam
Hi Paul, Friday, February 21, 2003, 6:00:16 PM, you wrote: PS Hello John, PS Friday, February 21, 2003, 5:23:51 PM, you wrote: ~ Here is a filter that gets rid of alot of spam for me: ~ [strings] ~ £|¥|¤|§|«|»|À|Á|Å|µ|¿ PS Why you would include a £ symbol. PS As a Brit I feel pretty insulted that my genuine PS e-mails could be filtered out as spam just because I PS used the symbol of my countries currency (one of the PS World's major currencies). If you are going to go to PS such extremes to filter out spam why not add this one As a Brit, I'm not surrpised, but I'd add $ to make the list more complete. Tyhe reason for using currency symbols that a lot of spammers will use subjects like Make Million$ and so forth. Actually, another good candidate for the list is also the ! which spammers love to use. However, if including that one I'd send the result to a spam folder, whereas the rest could quite happily go to trash. -- Best regards, Mike Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters for Spam
Hi Miguel, Friday, February 21, 2003, 6:45:04 PM, you wrote: MAU Hello ~John, Here is a filter that gets rid of alot of spam for me: [strings] £ MAU You would drop many messages from me if you and I exchanged business MAU e-mail :) Well, no, because if you have any sense you make messages from people you're happy to have mail from be filtered at the top of your filter list, with the spam filters following underneath. ;-) -- Best regards, Mike Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters for Spam
You would drop many messages from me if you and I exchanged business e-mail :) Can't see why since this is what a whitelist would and should fix. / St Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters for Spam
Hi St, Saturday, February 22, 2003, 1:59:18 AM, you wrote: You would drop many messages from me if you and I exchanged business e-mail :) SMN Can't see why since this is what a whitelist would and should fix. Try replying to the right person. You just piggybacked my reply ;-) -- Best regards, Mike Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters for Spam
Try replying to the right person. You just piggybacked my reply ;-) I see that now...just forget I replied, people...and once again I did not add anything clever to the discussion... / St Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
