Re: JPG/GIF Virus now?

2003-12-25 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hello Scott,

Sunday, December 21, 2003, 10:15:28 AM, you wrote:

S Any idea if The Bat would be vulnerable to this??

No, TB! is not vulnerable because it doesn't try to open a file with a
graphic extension as a non-graphic file. However, if an external image
viewer is used (see the options in the Options|Preferences dialogue),
that viewer *may* do that. Many of specialised viewers (such as
ACDSee, IrfanView) don't do that, AFAIK. Netscape and Mozilla if they
set as the default image viewer, don't do that either. I have no idea
if it's really a case of IE (which can also handle graphic
extensions).

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Re: JPG/GIF Virus now?

2003-12-22 Thread Carsten Thönges
* Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Be careful how you view your JPG and GIF files (from now on)...
[...]
 Any idea if The Bat would be vulnerable to this??

Take this (non-existant) URL: http://www.example.com/pics/me.jpg

If you visit such a site you'd expect your browser to display the
file »me.jpg«. But ...

a) what if »me.jpg« isn't a file but a directory? Your browser will
   open something like »www.example.com/pics/me.jpg/index.html«

b) what if a file (or directory) »me.jpg« doesn't exist? You'll be
   redirected to an 404-error page.

Both the »me.jpg/index.html« and the error page *could* contain
malicious code.

Thus it appears that The Bat! is not vulnerable against this
scenario because it doesn't confuse being a mailreader with being
a web browser ... like others do.

Carsten
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Re: JPG/GIF Virus now?

2003-12-22 Thread Jernej Simonèiè
On Monday, December 22, 2003, 16:14:16, Carsten Thönges wrote:

 Thus it appears that The Bat! is not vulnerable against this
 scenario because it doesn't confuse being a mailreader with being
 a web browser ... like others do.

As far as I've understood, when IE engine encounters an image file, it will
try to autodetect what kind of file it is - however, it won't stop at image
types, but will check for other types, too, and if it recognizes the file as
executable, it will try to run it.

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Re: JPG/GIF Virus now?

2003-12-22 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Jernej,

On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 17:38:21 +0100 GMT (22/12/2003, 23:38 +0700 GMT),
Jernej Simonèiè wrote:

 Thus it appears that The Bat! is not vulnerable

 As far as I've understood, when IE engine

Two different pieces of software.

 encounters an image file, it will try to autodetect what kind of
 file it is - however, it won't stop at image types, but will check
 for other types, too, and if it recognizes the file as executable,
 it will try to run it.

It doesn't here. Maybe it's a setting in IE somewhere under Tools /
Security?

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JPG/GIF Virus now?

2003-12-21 Thread Scott
Be careful how you view your JPG and GIF files (from now on)...
http://www.vnunet.com/News/1151553

=== Clip ==
Security specialist ISS said contributors to hacker mailing lists have recently
been discussing new techniques to bypass firewalls by mislabelling general HTML
files as JPEGs. Steven Darrall, senior consultant at ISS X-Force Security
Assessment Services, said the problem is caused by Microsoft's Internet Explorer
(IE) web browser automatically opening files labelled with .jpg or .gif
extensions. If the file does not contain an image, IE will try and guess the
content, Darrall said.

The news could explain the recent increase in the number of spam-like emails
that contain JPEG files that do not actually include an image.
=== End Clip ==

Any idea if The Bat would be vulnerable to this??

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Re: JPG/GIF Virus now?

2003-12-21 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Scott,

On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 02:15:28 -0600 GMT (21/12/2003, 15:15 +0700 GMT),
Scott wrote:

 Be careful how you view your JPG and GIF files (from now on)...
 http://www.vnunet.com/News/1151553

I can't reach that page at the moment.

 the problem is caused by Microsoft's Internet Explorer (IE) web
 browser automatically opening files labelled with .jpg or .gif
 extensions. If the file does not contain an image, IE will try and
 guess the content, Darrall said.

Not here. I just renamed an .html file on my computer to .jpg and
called it from IE6. What I got was a little square with a red X init,
indicating that the picture could not be displayed. No guessing on
IE's side that it might be HTML.

 Any idea if The Bat would be vulnerable to this??

No. If you click on an attachement tag with a .jpg extension, and it
is not a JPG file, the viewer will not be able to display the pciture,
that's all.

If you click on the attachment icon, your default viewer will be
opened, and that is outside of TBs realm of influence. If JPG files
are associated with Irfanview, you simply get an error message about
wrong format.

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