Re: Losing more folders than wanted and how to restore them

[Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris)]

Hello!


Monday, January 08, 2001, 9:10:22 AM, Thomas Fernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

DH>>> Also, when a folder is deleted, for some reason TB! puts you back at
DH>>> the top of the first account, no matter where you are down the line
DH>>> (of 17 accounts). When that happens, images of other folders (that
DH>>> aren't present where you are) flash by.

AGSAA>> Yes, this looks like some kind of unwanted behaviour. But I believe that
AGSAA>> it caused by some internal reindexing or reinitializing some TB!'s
AGSAA>> data structures.

TF> So? A technical explanation does not make it right. I suggest they fix
TF> it. ;-)

Of course, yes. I'll create the message to the RIT Labs shortly.


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Re: Losing more folders than wanted and how to restore them

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hi Andrey,

On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 08:03:50 +0300GMT (08/01/2001, 13:03 +0800GMT),
Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) wrote:

DH>> Also, when a folder is deleted, for some reason TB! puts you back at
DH>> the top of the first account, no matter where you are down the line
DH>> (of 17 accounts). When that happens, images of other folders (that
DH>> aren't present where you are) flash by.

AGSAA> Yes, this looks like some kind of unwanted behaviour. But I believe that
AGSAA> it caused by some internal reindexing or reinitializing some TB!'s
AGSAA> data structures.

So? A technical explanation does not make it right. I suggest they fix
it. ;-)

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Re: Losing more folders than wanted and how to restore them

[Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris)]

Hello!


Monday, January 08, 2001, 7:41:47 AM, Douglas Hinds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



DH> Nothing urgent.

Thanks God.

DH> Also, when a folder is deleted, for some reason TB! puts you back at
DH> the top of the first account, no matter where you are down the line
DH> (of 17 accounts). When that happens, images of other folders (that
DH> aren't present where you are) flash by.

Yes, this looks like some kind of unwanted behaviour. But I believe that
it caused by some internal reindexing or reinitializing some TB!'s
data structures.

The thing common to that you've described occures when you're changing
the folder properties.


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Re: Losing more folders than wanted and how to restore them

[Douglas Hinds]

Hello Andrey & others on TBUDL following this thread,

Sunday, January 07, 2001,  you stated regarding folder that TB!
apparently deleted, along with an empty one.

AGS> The second vote for upgrading your TB! ASAP.

ASA the new hard drive arrives. Soon, I believe.

AGS> Yes this is the truth. To avoid of moving the inappropriate folder just
AGS> click on it's name, press Alt, wait at least 0.5 sec and then move the
AGS> folder to the location desired.

OK. Good to know.

DH>> At any rate, the folder wouldn't go where I wanted to put it. TB!
DH>> came up w/ a reason (error message that made little sense),

AGS> What was the message text?

Something about not being able to replace something. It didn't make
sense in relation to an empty folder. As stated, I finally WAS able
to delete it.

DH>> When the thing finally deleted (and it had NO + to the left
DH>> of it), it evidently took others that were below (but not
DH>> subordinate to) it (it didn't want to go alone?).

AGS> What are the exact names for the folders TB! accidentally deleted?

I believe they were folders with things from lists relating to
certain computer applications that have periodic newsletters.
Nothing urgent. Also, when a folder is deleted, for some reason TB!
puts you back at the top of the first account, no matter where you
are down the line (of 17 accounts). When that happens, images of
other  folders (that aren't present where you are) flash by. So I'm,
not quite sure what was there, just that there were some that now
aren't. I was nearing the end of all alt+ on each folder to
get in and take it off the ticker if necessary, as well as set the
default column setting. There were over two hundred folders, maybe
three hundred.

DH>> That's the motive for this recount: What's the remedy, if any?

AGS> Double check your Trash for the messages originated from the folders
AGS> accidentally deleted; the default TB! behaviour is to move them to
AGS> Trash.

I was wiping out all in trash as I went, but not blindly.

I used Explorer to check all inboxes with subdirectories and in the
best of cases, after TB! brought me back to my first topmost
account, maybe I lost my place and nothing was lost.

In any case, I reckon I can live with it.

IAC, thanks for going over this. If you come up with something else,
give a holler.

shft+ctrl+alt+l tells me 0 folders were found.

What happened was that a folder wound up ABOVE the inbox. so the
question is: Are any aberrations likely when a folder in that
position is deleted. I could make a dummy account w/ a few
subdirectories and recreate this event (another day - this one's
done as far as this thing's concerned).

Douglas

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Re: Losing more folders than wanted and how to restore them

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hi Andrey,

On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 04:01:23 +0300GMT (08/01/2001, 09:01 +0800GMT),
Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) wrote:

DH>> However: Another thing that I've found difficult about TB! sometimes
DH>> is moving folders around. Right, you do it using alt while dragging.
DH>> Fine. Except the folder doesn't always move. And sometimes the wrong
DH>> folder moves, or things move where they shouldn't. It takes a lot of
DH>> care,

AGSAA> Yes this is the truth. To avoid of moving the inappropriate folder just
AGSAA> click on it's name, press Alt, wait at least 0.5 sec and then move the
AGSAA> folder to the location desired.

AGSAA> AFAIR it's the very old problem...

And it keeps annoying me. One of those bugs where I would say Ritlabs
should fix them before coming up with new features.

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Re: Losing more folders than wanted and how to restore them

[Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris)]

Hello!


Monday, January 08, 2001, 3:12:23 AM, Douglas Hinds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

DH> Today I went over all my folders. I have 17 accounts and one account
DH> alone now has 101 folders (it had more but I deleted a few). Another
DH> has 45. The rest have less, some more than others. I did this to
DH> make sure the ticker was not set on each, as mentioned in a separate
DH> post.

DH> In one account I found an empty folder that was out of place and it
DH> wouldn't delete. No error message; but I went through the right
DH> click menu many times and used del (less effective, I've found), and
DH> it just kept staring back at me. Usually it takes a couple of tries
DH> but it finally deletes. Not this time. And as I said, it was empty.

The second vote for upgrading your TB! ASAP.

DH> So I figured I'd move it. It wasn't at the right level, anyway. That
DH> is, it should have been at a level higher. But the idea was to move
DH> it and THEN delete it.

DH> However: Another thing that I've found difficult about TB! sometimes
DH> is moving folders around. Right, you do it using alt while dragging.
DH> Fine. Except the folder doesn't always move. And sometimes the wrong
DH> folder moves, or things move where they shouldn't. It takes a lot of
DH> care,

Yes this is the truth. To avoid of moving the inappropriate folder just
click on it's name, press Alt, wait at least 0.5 sec and then move the
folder to the location desired.

AFAIR it's the very old problem...

DH> and it would be better if folders could be moved the way messages
DH> can (via a command which summons a TB! menu) or the way everyone
DH> else (every other application) does it: ctrl+x and paste with no
DH> menu. That's all right though, because a lot of what I LIKE about
DH> TB! (I'm not complaining, see; just looking for a fix) is precisely
DH> what is unique about it. There are exceptions however.

IMHO the most correct way is to tune up the timings TB! uses in folder
move code.

DH> At any rate, the folder wouldn't go where I wanted to put it. TB!
DH> came up w/ a reason (error message that made little sense),

What was the message text?

DH> so I put it higher up, up with the Inbox - it except it wound up
DH> above it. There I WAS able to delete it BUT I think it also delete
DH> some folders that had been below (NOT subordinate, just below) it. I
DH> repeat: When the thing finally deleted (and it had NO + to the left
DH> of it), it evidently took others that were below (but not
DH> subordinate to) it (it didn't want to go alone?).

What are the exact names for the folders TB! accidentally deleted?

DH> That's the motive for this recount: What's the remedy, if any?

Double check your Trash for the messages originated from the folders
accidentally deleted; the default TB! behaviour is to move them to
Trash.


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Losing more folders than wanted and how to restore them

[Douglas Hinds]

Hello Bat! lovers,

Today I went over all my folders. I have 17 accounts and one account
alone now has 101 folders (it had more but I deleted a few). Another
has 45. The rest have less, some more than others. I did this to
make sure the ticker was not set on each, as mentioned in a separate
post.

In one account I found an empty folder that was out of place and it
wouldn't delete. No error message; but I went through the right
click menu many times and used del (less effective, I've found), and
it just kept staring back at me. Usually it takes a couple of tries
but it finally deletes. Not this time. And as I said, it was empty.

So I figured I'd move it. It wasn't at the right level, anyway. That
is, it should have been at a level higher. But the idea was to move
it and THEN delete it.

However: Another thing that I've found difficult about TB! sometimes
is moving folders around. Right, you do it using alt while dragging.
Fine. Except the folder doesn't always move. And sometimes the wrong
folder moves, or things move where they shouldn't. It takes a lot of
care, and it would be better if folders could be moved the way
messages can (via a command which summons a TB! menu) or the way
everyone else (every other application) does it: ctrl+x and paste
with no menu. That's all right though, because a lot of what I LIKE
about TB! (I'm not complaining, see; just looking for a fix) is
precisely what is unique about it. There are exceptions however.

At any rate, the folder wouldn't go where I wanted to put it. TB!
came up w/ a reason (error message that made little sense), so I put
it higher up, up with the Inbox - it except it wound up above it.
There I WAS able to delete it BUT I think it also delete some
folders that had been below (NOT subordinate, just below) it. I
repeat: When the thing finally deleted (and it had NO + to the left
of it), it evidently took others that were below (but not
subordinate to) it (it didn't want to go alone?).

That's the motive for this recount: What's the remedy, if any?

I haven't closed TB! or rebooted yet.

Thanks in advance.

DH

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