Re: New User - Its making me BATTY!
Databug, Well I've spend a few days moving from a complex Agent system to TB and I'm well impressed. Templates, filters make my business and recreation a lot easier now. It's not often you come across good software. Agent still is for News but was lacking with my needs for email, as well as a fast small (semi windows safe alternative). Currently very happy with TB, though there's a few features (minor) I like to see. Waiting for next version before I jump off the blocks though to see what this brings. The Amiga. Hell that's going back a bit. If only it had had the development time and funds these PC's have had. I used the Amiga with Compuserve many years ago. I forget the name of the application I used. I think I used two of them just before CI$ got semi replaced with the Internet, or more common ISP's. Damn fine machine the Amiga - cost me a small fortune in them days :) Sadly had to start programming these PC's, so never used the Amiga for normal ISP email/news. Tried OE very briefly when it came out and went and bought Agent in very short order. Haven't looked back since but waiting for the next version was too much for me and I need better email handling. If TB ever decide to bring news to it's email client as an optional extra, or in built they'll have my vote. Charles Collinson -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: New User - Its making me BATTY!
Hello Charles, On the 16/02/2002, you babbled on about "New User - Its making me BATTY!" CC> Lionrhod, CC> Just started using the Bat myself and I think the templates are killers. CC> Anyone think I've got this wrong please correct me: Too true I wanted a mailing program that was as flexible as the program I was using on my Amiga and the bat is well up to that task and goes beyond it. Although the Amiga was old but there were a few things it did well and those were/are EMail and IRC. That`s all for now -- __ _ _ __ _ _ __ __ _ _ _ //\/ _ /\/_ __/\/ _ /\/ __ /\/ // /\/ ___/\_ _/ // / / _ / /\/ /\_\/ _ / / __ / / // / / /¸-¸\/_ // /_//_/ / /_/ / /_//_/ // // // /__ \\/\_\\_\/ \_\/ \_\\_\/\\/\\/\\/___ .this Email has been brought to you by the Databug ©. Other EMail:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ Nr:- 87314826 IRC Nicks:- databug, MadMango Homepage:- http://www.arkofnoah.co.uk If we aren't supposed to eat animals, why are they made of meat? -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: New User - Its making me BATTY!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, February 16, 2002, at 2:07:46 AM PST, Lionrhod wrote: > 1) Whether I want it or not, this program wants me to send mail, > which, as you see, say "Hello _(name/email addy)_" and "Best > regards," > I have already tried making a blank page for a template and using > that (via Accounts) however the program insists on this one. Hello Lionrhod, Charles mentioned templates on account, folder, and address book levels. The "Quick Templates" can be very useful for several reasons as well - for inserting certain information grabbed via macro and/or regular expressions, for group mailing templates, etc. Also - once you get to know TB!'s templates a bit, you'll notice that its list of pre-defined macros are extensive and very useful, as is its ability to handle regular expressions (learn more about those on the "TBTECH" list). TB!'s template creation/options are really the most flexible I've seen. > 2) How do I word wrap messages while I am replying to them so that I > can read the darned letter while I am reading? Again - as Charles mentioned - "Auto-Wrap" wraps to your chosen wrap point as you type. However - there is more to it... If you have "Auto-Wrap" enabled, but not "Auto-Format", if you insert new text into an already formed paragraph, you might need to "re-wrap" it. The easiest way is to have the cursor focus within the paragraph, and hit the "Alt-L" keyboard shortcut. If you want it to "re-wrap" automatically as you type in new words, you can enable "Auto-Format" as well. However - if you want to make something like a list in the middle of a message while "Auto-Format" is enabled, you need to temporarily disable A-F, or it will want to force your short lines into one paragraph at your preferred wrap setting. To toggle "Auto-Format" on and off, just use the "Ctrl-Shift-F" keyboard shortcut (same shortcut for "Quick filter" when in the message list/viewer pane). The help files, while improved over what they once were, still fall short of explaining all that TB! is capable of. That's why this - and the other TB! lists - are so helpful. You'll be quite amazed at what TB! is capable of - just stick around here and ask away! :-) Melissa - -- PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP_Keys_8&Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8bpcpjVbXUvsE8ukRAoruAKDi4zig4kUV6OJctD6kPjjOzD9MogCgvlyk +2dOoA30G0z0mcz0hhbCcPE= =o1mS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: New User - Its making me BATTY!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi TBUDL, On 16 February 2002 at 05:07:46 -0500 (which was 10:07 where I live) Lionrhod wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > I have already tried making a blank page for a template and using > that (via Accounts) however the program insists on this one. That won't work. Every time you empty the account template it will restore the default one (the one you don't like). What you want is a truly blank template, for which you need to replace the existing template with the keyword %BLANK. Here's what it says in Help about it: BLANK this macro is used to create a blank template. An empty template will be replaced by the default templates. Use this macro to prevent that > 2) How do I word wrap messages while I am replying to them so that I > can read the darned letter while I am reading? Set Auto-wrap to On in the editor preferences. As for unwrapped text which you have been sent? You'll have to hit Alt-L per-paragraph to re-wrap the quoted text (or re-educate the senders). - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ___ \ Think it through ... BrainStorm at http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / · TB! v1.54 Beta/39-14F4B4B2 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iD8DBQE8bnxPOeQkq5KdzaARAjuKAJ0cngVC1qgWHvjMmoiW2zQfi2BwUQCgiuxX 77av1yOQyRrWgXuKauMGKz4= =m7vK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: New User - Its making me BATTY!
Lionrhod, Just started using the Bat myself and I think the templates are killers. Anyone think I've got this wrong please correct me: Firstly each email account has the default templates: Right-click account, Properties and then Templates should enable you to affect the default templates for that account, Template and Reply, etc. Each folder under this can also have it's own templates, so if you right-click Mom's account and select Template and Reply, you can dump the standard stuff and change it to "Hi Mom", etc. If you click on Mom's folder and create a message it will use Mom's template, etc. If you want blank templates, clear all the templates for that account, or all accounts. The confusion lies in been able to alter all sorts, etc. It's also possible, and this confused me, to give someone, like Mom, a template in the address book, so when you write to Mom it replaces any template currently been used to that of the one in the address book. this might be the way you want to go firstly. Then you'll just need to alter Mom's folder for the reply template. Because several accounts, and folders can have templates it can be confusing as one over rides the over, however only the address book suddenly confusing things. I set up a folder to filter this email list and I set up a simply template and reply template for it, so this overrides the accounts default template :) I think templates work: Account template, folder template and finally address book template. Address book is also a switch on/off feature. I also think by default a folders templates are Bat's own defaults and not that of the account, however could be wrong. Hope this helps, as the template feature is great IMO, as a new user that I am. Word wrap in an option under "Utilities" - "Auto Wrap". I think it remembers for next time. Charles Collinson -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: New User - Its making me BATTY!
On Saturday, February 16, 2002, 10:07:46 AM, you wrote: L> I have already tried making a blank page for a template and using L> that (via Accounts) however the program insists on this one. Lionrhod, If you have not created any folders under the inbox, you should just right click on the account, go to properties, templates, new message and just clear all the text from the template. When you create a new message the editor will open up completely blank. If you have created other folders, and you create a message whilst the new folder is highlighted, that new folder will have its own templates. -- Best regards, Adam Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/39 Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
New User - Its making me BATTY!
Hello TBUDL, Hi Folks, I am new to the Bat and am trying to figure out how to do a few things. I've been going through the help files and archives and I am completely mystified and rather frustrated. The only features I really wanted from this program was the ability to password protect my mail from other computer users, and relief from the way Netscape often crashes my email. 1) Whether I want it or not, this program wants me to send mail, which, as you see, say "Hello _(name/email addy)_" and "Best regards," I have already tried making a blank page for a template and using that (via Accounts) however the program insists on this one. As I did not originally set a template when I set up the program, I am confused where it found this default template (it is not under quick templates) and how to kill it. This is making me a bit batty, as I do not speak this way, and I would rather personalize the letters with the name of the person as I speak to them. For instance, my mother and her husband are on my buddy list, and if I let the Bat have its way, her mail will say, "Hello Elga and Bill" Most often, I want it to say, "Hi Mom," but sometimes, "Hi Mom and Bill" and occasionally, "Hi Bill." I don't see a need to write a template for this. I would rather just do it myself. Frankly, I am not a fan of programs that think they're smarter than me, and what I really want is just a blank letter with my mail to address at the bottom and nothing more. And for replies, just "_name_ wrote" and their message text. It is a giant pain in the neck to edit it after the Bat puts all that garbage in. 2) How do I word wrap messages while I am replying to them so that I can read the darned letter while I am reading? Thanks! Lionrhod -- Best regards, (sheesh!) Lionrhod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com