Notebook Synchronizing

[Kevin Coates]

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Hello TBUDL!

I just purchased a laptop and would like to install The Bat! on it. I
normally use my desktop machine, but would like to have the capability
to read and answer my mail from either system. My ISP does not offer
IMAP. Can anyone provide some strategies for synchronizing the two?

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Kevin Coates
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Re: Notebook Synchronizing

[Bill Blinn Technology Editor]

At 3:46 PM on 1/22/2004, Kevin Coates typed ...

K> I just purchased a laptop and would like to install The Bat! on it. I
K> normally use my desktop machine, but would like to have the capability
K> to read and answer my mail from either system. My ISP does not offer
K> IMAP. Can anyone provide some strategies for synchronizing the two?

I choose one machine as "master" (my home desktop). When I retrieve
mail there, I remove it from the server. When I retrieve mail using
the notebook or from the office, I leave mail on the server until I
dump it from the trash. This doesn't give me every message in every
location, but it does give me what I want. It might work for you.

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Re: Notebook Synchronizing

[sacksa]

Kevin Coates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 01/22/2004 02:46 PM wrote:

>I just purchased a laptop and would like to install The Bat! on it. I
>normally use my desktop machine, but would like to have the capability
>to read and answer my mail from either system. My ISP does not offer
>IMAP. Can anyone provide some strategies for synchronizing the two?

I also have a laptop that I have been wanting to put on a home network with
the pc  and allow it to read and answer Bat mail.  So, I would also
appreciate input for strategies.  FWIW, the pc has XP home and the laptop
has XP pro.

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Re: Notebook Synchronizing

[Marten Gallagher]

On Thursday, January 22, 2004 at 8:46:28 PM, you wrote:

> I just purchased a laptop and would like to install The Bat! on it. I
> normally use my desktop machine, but would like to have the capability
> to read and answer my mail from either system. My ISP does not offer
> IMAP. Can anyone provide some strategies for synchronizing the two?

There's a system built in to do this although it's rather cumbersome.
It's part of tools > synchronise.

Marten Gallagher

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Re: Notebook Synchronizing

[Kevin Coates]

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Hi Bill,

On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:11:58 -0500 (4:11 PM here), Bill Blinn
Technology Editor [BBTE] wrote in
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BBTE> At 3:46 PM on 1/22/2004, Kevin Coates typed ...

K>> I just purchased a laptop and would like to install The Bat! on
K>> it. . Can anyone provide some strategies for synchronizing the
K>> two?

BBTE> I choose one machine as "master" (my home desktop). When I
BBTE> retrieve mail there, I remove it from the server. When I
BBTE> retrieve mail using the notebook or from the office, I leave
BBTE> mail on the server until I dump it from the trash

Thanks for sharing your solution. I will try that and also take a look
at the built in synchronizing feature that Marten mentioned.

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Re: Notebook Synchronizing

[Gerrit Kiers]

Hello Kevin,

Friday, January 23, 2004, 5:18:14 AM, you wrote:
BBTE>> I choose one machine as "master" (my home desktop). When I
BBTE>> retrieve mail there, I remove it from the server. When I
BBTE>> retrieve mail using the notebook or from the office, I leave
BBTE>> mail on the server until I dump it from the trash
KC> Thanks for sharing your solution.

Kevin,
Bill's solution does not solve instances when you send mail from the
notebook. I use the following set-up to cover for that.

Whenever I send an e-mail from my notebook I send a blind copy (BCC)
to myself. The Bat! on my notebook knows it should leave these e-mails
on the server. Then: When I reach home I start collecting my e-mail
and The Bat! automatically sorts the messages that I have send during
my trip to it's Sent Mail folder. Thus my home PC always contains
copies of all the mail I get and send.

On the notebook:
Add these macros to your templates for 'New message' and 'Reply' (and
if you use these also in 'Forward' and 'Reading conformation') You do
this at menu: Account -> Properties -> Templates
-begin macros---
%BCC=""
%BCC="%FROMNAME <%FROMADDR>"
--end macros
From now you are sending automatically BCC copies to yourself.

Then go to the Sorting Office and make a new rule under 'Selective
download'. Make the rule 'Detect by originator' with as signal string
your own e-mail address. This will make your notebook neglect these mails
on the server. (Call the rule 'Ignore BCC copies' or something like
that). That's it on this side. 

At home:
Go to the Sorting Office and make a new rule under 'Incoming mail'
Apply these settings in the Rule tab:
  Source folder = 'Inbox'
  Move message to folder = 'Sent mail'
  Filtering string = *your own e-mail address*
  Location = Sender
  Presence = Yes
Then under the tab Actions click 'Mark the message as read'
Now your own mail is sorted to the 'Sent Mail' folder (you won't even
notice it functioning). Call it "To Send mail if I send as BCC" or
something like that.

I actually never use the Synchronise tool between my notebook and home
PC. If I really need copies my e-mails on the notebook I usually copy
the all the Messages.tbb and the Messages.tbi files (containing the
messages) onto the notebook before I leave for a trip (and
address books).

Hope i could be helpful.

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Re: Notebook Synchronizing

[Kevin Coates]

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Hi Gerrit,

On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 13:55:46 +0100 (7:55 AM here), Gerrit Kiers [GK]
wrote in :

GK> Bill's solution does not solve instances when you send mail from the
GK> notebook. I use the following set-up to cover for that.

Thank you so much. I'm still in the process of installing the
essentials (AV, firewall, misc utils, pgp) but will save your message
and incorporate your suggestions soon.

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Re: Notebook Synchronizing

[Kevin Coates]

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Hi Bill,

On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 08:04:48 -0500 (8:04 AM here), Bill Blinn
Technology Editor [BBTE] wrote in
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BBTE> Thanks, Kevin! You not only mentioned a step that I omitted
BBTE> (BCCs to myself of messages that I want to store on the main
BBTE> computer) but you also provided a macro I can use.

Hehehe .. actually you can thank Gerrit but the suggestions given here
are most helpful.

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Re: Notebook Synchronizing

[Gerrit Kiers]

Hello Terry,

Monday, January 26, 2004, 6:33:31 PM, you wrote:
TGM> Also should chose 'ignore' one the advanced tab, I might have missed
TGM> that.

Thank you for correcting this. I actually thought that 'ignore' was
the default.


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Re[2]: Notebook Synchronizing

[Bill Blinn Technology Editor]

At 7:55 AM on 1/23/2004, Gerrit Kiers typed ...

G> Kevin,
G> Bill's solution does not solve instances when you send mail from the
G> notebook. I use the following set-up to cover for that.

Thanks, Kevin! You not only mentioned a step that I omitted (BCCs to
myself of messages that I want to store on the main computer) but you
also provided a macro I can use.

Two for the price of one.

G> Hope i could be helpful.

Indeed!

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Re[2]: Notebook Synchronizing

[Bill Blinn Technology Editor]

At 11:45 AM on 1/23/2004, Kevin Coates typed ...

K> Hehehe .. actually you can thank Gerrit but the suggestions given here
K> are most helpful.

This is another clear example of why I should never attempt to
communicate in the hours before noon. Or the hours after noon, for
that part. Thanks for catching that!

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Re[2]: Notebook Synchronizing

[Terry G. Munson]

Hello Gerrit,

Friday, January 23, 2004, 4:55:46 AM, you wrote:

> Then go to the Sorting Office and make a new rule under 'Selective
> download'. Make the rule 'Detect by originator' with as signal string
> your own e-mail address. This will make your notebook neglect these mails
> on the server. (Call the rule 'Ignore BCC copies' or something like
> that). That's it on this side.

Also should chose 'ignore' one the advanced tab, I might have missed
that.

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Terry



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Re[3]: Notebook Synchronizing

[Marten Gallagher]

On Monday, January 26, 2004 at 5:33:31 PM, you wrote:

> Hello Gerrit,

> Friday, January 23, 2004, 4:55:46 AM, you wrote:

>> Then go to the Sorting Office and make a new rule under 'Selective
>> download'. Make the rule 'Detect by originator' with as signal string
>> your own e-mail address. This will make your notebook neglect these mails
>> on the server. (Call the rule 'Ignore BCC copies' or something like
>> that). That's it on this side.

> Also should chose 'ignore' one the advanced tab, I might have missed
> that.

Yes - I realised that too.

Have now set up my whole system - only had to do it indivudally to 30
email accounts on the laptop and on the desktop but it works - such
luxury.

Of course if this were implemented:

https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002408

...it might have been so much easier! ;-))

Marten Gallagher

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