Re: External editor (was OT: Regular Expressions)

[Luca]

05/10/2000, A . Curtis Martin:
> I meant PMMail  and not PMail
> (Pegasus Mail).

Ups ...
I'll take a look. Thanx.

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Re: External editor (was OT: Regular Expressions)

[A . Curtis Martin]

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On Thu, 5 Oct 2000 12:36:47 +0200, Luca wrote:

>> PMMail offers external editor support.

L> Since when? I'm surprised, I gave up with Pegasus about two years ago
L> when, among the other things, lots of people were asking loud for
L> external editor support but the author, according to two of his beta
L> testers, would have never abandoned the (disas)TER editor (their
L> joke, not mine :-)

I meant PMMail  and not PMail
(Pegasus Mail).

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Re: External editor (was OT: Regular Expressions)

[Luca]

05/10/2000, A . Curtis Martin:
> It depends. They may chose to support another editor as plugin, where it
> will indeed be integrated as a part of TB.

> However, if TB! will support you using any editor of your choice ity
> will only provide convenient hooks to fire up your editor

I myself like the former more than the latter.

I followed the free caret thread, I still wonder if it's all that
impossible to turn the current editor, _optionally_, a little less
programmer-oriented. Anyway, who cares? Let me add or delete a word with
no further paragraph editing required, and I'm happy.

> PMMail offers external editor support.

Since when? I'm surprised, I gave up with Pegasus about two years ago
when, among the other things, lots of people were asking loud for
external editor support but the author, according to two of his beta
testers, would have never abandoned the (disas)TER editor (their joke,
not mine :-)

Anyway, at present I think that I'll stick to TB, if v2 keeps the
promises, until either a multi email account version of Agent, or a
Pegasus version that can properly manage sent messages, or a Eudora
no-spyware, threading capable, lighter than 10 Megatons version are
released. That means TB forever, I think.

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Re: External editor (was OT: Regular Expressions)

[A . Curtis Martin]

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On Wed, 4 Oct 2000 12:51:47 +0200, Luca wrote:

L> When this will hopefully be possible, what is supposed to happen when
L> I write a message? I mean, will I see my favourite editor working
L> within a TB window, with TB's menus, toolbar and all, or will it open
L> as a stand alone window?

It depends. They may chose to support another editor as plugin, where it
will indeed be integrated as a part of TB. An example of this is Becky's
own editor which was written by an external party.

However, if TB! will support you using any editor of your choice ity
will only provide convenient hooks to fire up your editor and paste the
template output in it etc. After editing, you close your editor, at
which point TB! will copy the text from the temp txt file created and
send it. In such a situation, you'll be using your own editor with it's
own interface, *separate* from TB!.

PMMail offers external editor support. Perhaps you can try it to see
what I'm referring to.

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External editor (was OT: Regular Expressions)

[Luca]

13/09/2000, Peter Steiner:
> And yes, i'm eagerly awaiting the
> possibility to use Emacs as an external editor from within TB! ...

When this will hopefully be possible, what is supposed to happen when
I write a message? I mean, will I see my favourite editor working
within a TB window, with TB's menus, toolbar and all, or will it open
as a stand alone window?

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Re: OT: Why not Emacs for mail and news (was Re: OT: Regular Expressions)

[Steve Lamb]

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Friday, September 15, 2000, 11:30:25 AM, Peter wrote:
> and found TB! for mail. I've not bothered again to try newer versions
> of gnus, i like the GUI of TB! (or many parts of it, there is always
> room for improvements)

Agreed.  ;)

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OT: Why not Emacs for mail and news (was Re: OT: Regular Expressions)

[Peter Steiner]

On Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:45:05 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:

SL> Wednesday, September 13, 2000, 12:35:06 PM, Peter wrote:
>> one, i'm just used to it). And yes, i'm eagerly awaiting the
>> possibility to use Emacs as an external editor from within TB! ...

SL> Never understood the drive to use Emacs as an external editor for another
SL> email client when it has gnus.  I'm told gnus is god when it comes to news and
SL> email, I am just opposed to reading mail and news with an editor macro.  :)

Yes, that sounds odd... When I wanted to convert from Agent to gnus
perhaps twenty months ago, gnus was not able to do offline news
reading[1] and too difficult for a gnus newbie to set up for multiple
pop3 mailboxes and only partial support for attachments. I then
dropped the idea to move mail and news to Emacs, kept Agent for news
and found TB! for mail. I've not bothered again to try newer versions
of gnus, i like the GUI of TB! (or many parts of it, there is always
room for improvements)

[1] Here in Europe without toll-free local calls offline operation is
still a must for me...

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Re: OT: Regular Expressions

[Steve Lamb]

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Tuesday, September 12, 2000, 1:48:02 PM, Nick wrote:
> Do you know any other applications, as an example, that you can use
> regular expressions with?  I've never fell across them before TB! and
> was wondering if it's just a case of tunnel vision on my part.  Like
> when I can't find the mustard in the fridge. ;-)

In Windows REs are pretty much left to rot.  In Unix it is almost better
to ask what applications /don't/ support them.  Every editor that I've used on
the Unix side have supported REs for search/search & replace.

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Re: OT: Regular Expressions

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Wednesday, September 13, 2000, 12:35:06 PM, Peter wrote:
> one, i'm just used to it). And yes, i'm eagerly awaiting the
> possibility to use Emacs as an external editor from within TB! ...

Never understood the drive to use Emacs as an external editor for another
email client when it has gnus.  I'm told gnus is god when it comes to news and
email, I am just opposed to reading mail and news with an editor macro.  :)

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Re: OT: Regular Expressions

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Wednesday, September 13, 2000, 2:16:56 AM, Markus wrote:
> You may hit me, but in certain way even MS Word knows REs in Search
> and Replace.

Somehow I doubt that if I told Word to do something like the following in
vim it would know what to do or that I could even mangle it to do it without
some serious macro work.

%:s/(\w*)\.home\.earthlink\.net/home.earthlink.net\/~\1/gi

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Re: OT: Regular Expressions

[Peter Steiner]

Hello Nick

On Tue, 12 Sep 2000 15:48:02 -0500, Nick Danger wrote:

ND>  Do you know any other applications, as an example, that you can use
ND> regular expressions with?  I've never fell across them before TB! and
ND> was wondering if it's just a case of tunnel vision on my part.  Like
ND> when I can't find the mustard in the fridge. ;-)

My uses of RE's are mostly with grep (a tool for searching files) or
Perl (powerful text processing language, among other things) and
within Emacs, my favourite text editor (no, i won't say it's the best
one, i'm just used to it). And yes, i'm eagerly awaiting the
possibility to use Emacs as an external editor from within TB! ...

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Re: OT: Regular Expressions

[Markus Gloede]

Hi,

Nick Danger wrote:

> Do you know any other applications, as an example, that you can use
> regular expressions with?

You may hit me, but in certain way even MS Word knows REs in Search
and Replace.

Regards,

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Re: OT: Regular Expressions

[Cricket]

Hello Nick,

Tuesday, September 12, 2000, 4:48:02 PM, you wrote:

ND> In Reference to "Regular Expressions" From A . Curtis Martin: "

A>> OTOH, most RE experts claim that you'll find uses for RE's that you
A>> never imagined would be relevant to your situation and work, once you
A>> learn how to use them.

ND> Allie,

ND>  Do you know any other applications, as an example, that you can use
ND> regular expressions with?  I've never fell across them before TB! and
ND> was wondering if it's just a case of tunnel vision on my part.  Like
ND> when I can't find the mustard in the fridge. ;-)


The UNIX operating system relies heavily on RE to do a multitude of
administrative functions. For example search within files for unique
sequences, as arguments to search the entire operating system,
development of lists to feed into shell routines (ie loops) for
cleaning up directories, the ONLY way to do any editting with the most
basic of text editors: "ed", and ditto for vi and sed.

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Re: OT: Regular Expressions

[A . Curtis Martin]

On Tue, 12 Sep 2000 15:48:02 -0500, Nick Danger wrote:

ND> Do you know any other applications, as an example, that you can use
ND> regular expressions with? I've never fell across them before TB! and
ND> was wondering if it's just a case of tunnel vision on my part. Like
ND> when I can't find the mustard in the fridge. ;-)

 There's probably a little tunneling there.

Most advanced text editors and specialist 'search and replace' tools
support regular expressions. The two that I have installed here, ie,
UltraEdit and NoteTab Pro both support regular expressions. My personal
search and replace tool, BK ReplaceEM supports regular expressions.

Microplanet Gravity, a popular newsreader also supports RE. I'm sure
there are many others. :-)

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OT: Regular Expressions

[Nick Danger]

In Reference to "Regular Expressions" From A . Curtis Martin: "

A> OTOH, most RE experts claim that you'll find uses for RE's that you
A> never imagined would be relevant to your situation and work, once you
A> learn how to use them.

Allie,

 Do you know any other applications, as an example, that you can use
regular expressions with?  I've never fell across them before TB! and
was wondering if it's just a case of tunnel vision on my part.  Like
when I can't find the mustard in the fridge. ;-)

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