Re: Problem with Address Book
Hallo Mike, On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 20:44:04 -0700GMT (11-10-2006, 5:44 , where I live), you wrote: MG> Has the address book been changed in any significant manner in MG> versions later than the one I'm using: 2.01.3 Business? No, it hasn't changed at all. -- Groetjes, Roelof XT Nostalgia? Run Windows http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.85.03 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpm0paNY96S8.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem with Address Book
On Monday, October 09, 2006, Robin Anson wrote: > Just check that "Hide items if not explicitly selected" is unticked in > the properties of ALL the groups, otherwise you will get behaviour > like that. That did it. After checking "Hide items" in all the groups, I was able to delete duplicates and have one listing for each person remain, showing up both in the root list and in the group list(s). The address book is still a bit confusing to me, but you've helped me clear up all the immediate problems. Has the address book been changed in any significant manner in versions later than the one I'm using: 2.01.3 Business? Thanks again for all your help! Mike -- Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with Address Book
Hallo Mike, On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 09:36:34 -0700GMT (9-10-2006, 18:36 , where I live), you wrote: MG> Also, sometimes, the same name shows up twice in a group and if I MG> delete one of them, they will occasionally both disappear. Why? My best guess would be a little corruption. Use TB's internal backup system to make a backup of your address book and restore that backup afterwards. Before you're doing that, you'd better make a copy of the .abd files in your mail directory, just in case something goes awry. -- Groetjes, Roelof ERROR: 001 Windows loaded. System in danger. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.85.03 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpUV1oyzdCYi.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with Address Book
Hallo Mike, On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 14:32:23 -0700GMT (9-10-2006, 23:32 , where I live), you wrote: MG> But I had 6 items in the group and, after unticking the "Hide MG> items line," four of them now do show up in the root list, but two do not. Would they be part of another group too? Re: cutmark MG> Where would they go on a reply like this? I also put them under my signature here. Your cutmark is supposed to be placed above your signature, but under your message. And you are not supposed to include the entire previous message under your cutmark. Quote only the relevant parts of the previous message and place your comments below, as TB is a threading client it is not necessary to include previous messages as you can browse the thread easily. Saves bandwidth. (Apart from that it's in the listrules) -- Groetjes, Roelof If 50 million people vote for something stupid, it's still stupid! http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.85.03 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpGwOp3tMxZj.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with Address Book
On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 at 16:19:40 -0700, Mike wrote: > When I unchecked the groups on the item's properties in the group > list, the item reappeared in the root list and disappeared from the > group list (as expected), but when I then went to the properties for > the item in the root list and checked them, the person disappeared > again from the root list and reappeared in the group list. Just check that "Hide items if not explicitly selected" is unticked in the properties of ALL the groups, otherwise you will get behaviour like that. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.85.03 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem with Address Book
Robin: Interesting. When I unchecked the groups on the item's properties in the group list, the item reappeared in the root list and disappeared from the group list (as expected), but when I then went to the properties for the item in the root list and checked them, the person disappeared again from the root list and reappeared in the group list. Can't seem to keep this item in both places, even though other items in that group are in both places. Mike -- On Monday, October 09, 2006, Robin Anson wrote: > On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 at 14:32:23 -0700, Mike wrote: >> Thanks. That partially helped. >> >> But I had 6 items in the group and, after unticking the "Hide items >> line," four of them now do show up in the root list, but two do not. > Hmm, I'm not sure how that could be the case. Look at the address book > entry itself (i.e. select "Properties" on the item) and on the first > tab you should see both the address book and the group listed. Try > unselecting the group that page and see if the entry reappears in the > root list. >> Does it matter whether I created the item originally in the root list or in >> the group list? > It shouldn't >> Any way to change this without totally retyping items? > Try as above >> I had never heard of cut marks, but I'll try to remember to include >> them. I assume they go after my signature? > They go at the end of the content of your message. It could go after > your name, or (as mine does) before your name. No one seems much > fussed by that. But if you have other stuff like cookies or system > configuration, it should go before that. >> Where would they go on a reply like this? I also put them under my signature >> here. > That was fine, and it worked properly. Do you have a separate template > for this list? If so, it's useful to put the cut mark and your system > configuration in it. Something like: > "-- > Mike > Using The Bat! v%THEBATVERSION >%WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME %- > %WINDOWSMAJORVERSION.%WINDOWSMINORVERSION %- > Build %WINDOWSBUILDNUMBER %WINDOWSCSDVERSION" > That gives you a signature much like mine below. Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with Address Book
On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 at 14:32:23 -0700, Mike wrote: > Thanks. That partially helped. > > But I had 6 items in the group and, after unticking the "Hide items > line," four of them now do show up in the root list, but two do not. Hmm, I'm not sure how that could be the case. Look at the address book entry itself (i.e. select "Properties" on the item) and on the first tab you should see both the address book and the group listed. Try unselecting the group that page and see if the entry reappears in the root list. > Does it matter whether I created the item originally in the root list or in > the group list? It shouldn't > Any way to change this without totally retyping items? Try as above > I had never heard of cut marks, but I'll try to remember to include > them. I assume they go after my signature? They go at the end of the content of your message. It could go after your name, or (as mine does) before your name. No one seems much fussed by that. But if you have other stuff like cookies or system configuration, it should go before that. > Where would they go on a reply like this? I also put them under my signature > here. That was fine, and it worked properly. Do you have a separate template for this list? If so, it's useful to put the cut mark and your system configuration in it. Something like: "-- Mike Using The Bat! v%THEBATVERSION %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME %- %WINDOWSMAJORVERSION.%WINDOWSMINORVERSION %- Build %WINDOWSBUILDNUMBER %WINDOWSCSDVERSION" That gives you a signature much like mine below. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.85.03 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem with Address Book
Robin, Thanks. That partially helped. But I had 6 items in the group and, after unticking the "Hide items line," four of them now do show up in the root list, but two do not. Does it matter whether I created the item originally in the root list or in the group list? Any way to change this without totally retyping items? I had never heard of cut marks, but I'll try to remember to include them. I assume they go after my signature? Where would they go on a reply like this? I also put them under my signature here. Mike -- On Monday, October 09, 2006, Robin Anson wrote: > On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 at 09:36:34 -0700, Mike wrote: >> Question 1 - >> >> I can set up the groups with no problem, but if I enter the people >> in a group, they do not show up in the overall Club list. >> >> If I enter them in the overall Club list and mark them as being in >> a group on the Properties page, then they disappear from the overall >> Club list and show up only in the Group list. >> >> How do I get them to show up in both places so that I have the >> choice of sending a mailing to all the members in the Club list or >> only to members of a specific group? > Edit the properties of the group so that "Hide items if not explicitly > selected" is not ticked. The purpose of this is (to quote from the > help) "When checked (default) contacts are shown only in the Group but > not in the root the group belongs to." >> Question 2 - >> >> Also, sometimes, the same name shows up twice in a group and if I >> delete one of them, they will occasionally both disappear. Why? > Don't know >> Question 3 - >> >> When I try to delete a listing for a person, I get some kind of >> message that makes no sense to me at all: >> >> "The group ___ hides its items unless it is specifically selected. >> Do you want to remove items associated only with this group from the address >> book?" >> >> What does this mean? I can make no sense out of that message at all. > Relates to the answer to question 1. It's asking if you just want to > remove it from the group, or also from the address book. > PS. You have no cut mark towards the end of your message. This is > required by the group rules and it is used because some email clients > (including, of course, TB) automatically strip off everything after > the cut mark when replying. > A cut mark consists of "dash dash space" on a line by itself. Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with Address Book
On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 at 09:36:34 -0700, Mike wrote: > Question 1 - > > I can set up the groups with no problem, but if I enter the people > in a group, they do not show up in the overall Club list. > > If I enter them in the overall Club list and mark them as being in > a group on the Properties page, then they disappear from the overall > Club list and show up only in the Group list. > > How do I get them to show up in both places so that I have the > choice of sending a mailing to all the members in the Club list or > only to members of a specific group? Edit the properties of the group so that "Hide items if not explicitly selected" is not ticked. The purpose of this is (to quote from the help) "When checked (default) contacts are shown only in the Group but not in the root the group belongs to." > Question 2 - > > Also, sometimes, the same name shows up twice in a group and if I > delete one of them, they will occasionally both disappear. Why? Don't know > Question 3 - > > When I try to delete a listing for a person, I get some kind of > message that makes no sense to me at all: > > "The group ___ hides its items unless it is specifically selected. > Do you want to remove items associated only with this group from the address > book?" > > What does this mean? I can make no sense out of that message at all. Relates to the answer to question 1. It's asking if you just want to remove it from the group, or also from the address book. PS. You have no cut mark towards the end of your message. This is required by the group rules and it is used because some email clients (including, of course, TB) automatically strip off everything after the cut mark when replying. A cut mark consists of "dash dash space" on a line by itself. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.85.03 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problem with Address Book
I am currently using the business edition 2.01.3 on a PC using XP Pro with plenty of memory and hard drive space. I need to set up groups within a major address book. Let's call the address book Club.I need four or more groups within that. Club Class A Members Class B Members Class C Members Class D Members To complicate the matter, one person can be in two or more groups. Question 1 - I can set up the groups with no problem, but if I enter the people in a group, they do not show up in the overall Club list. If I enter them in the overall Club list and mark them as being in a group on the Properties page, then they disappear from the overall Club list and show up only in the Group list. How do I get them to show up in both places so that I have the choice of sending a mailing to all the members in the Club list or only to members of a specific group? Question 2 - Also, sometimes, the same name shows up twice in a group and if I delete one of them, they will occasionally both disappear. Why? Question 3 - When I try to delete a listing for a person, I get some kind of message that makes no sense to me at all: "The group ___ hides its items unless it is specifically selected. Do you want to remove items associated only with this group from the address book?" What does this mean? I can make no sense out of that message at all. Question 4 - Do later versions correct some of the problems I'm having? Mike Greenbaum Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Siamese twins problem with Address Book
Hello Costas, On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 22:32:12 +0200GMT (6-1-02, 21:32 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: CP> If that isn't too confusing to you, I would be grateful for some CP> assistance in order to edit the existing Groups and keep the enries CP> separate. Make for each of the entries that occur in both groups a second entry (don't use the same nickname) and add that second entry to group B, while you delete the first entry from group B. Can be done. Only problem with such a setup is that address book templates won't necessarily work as you'd expect, since the same address occurs twice in the AB. I prefer one entry that belongs to multiple groups, but YMMV. -- Groetjes, Roelof -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Siamese twins problem with Address Book
Hello, I have created two different groups in my Address Book. Several people belong to both groups. This is indicated in the: Address Entries Properties - Groups entry under the "General" tab, where it is indicated that the person concerned belongs to "Group A+Group B". By design, I would like to create independent entries for these persons in each Group rather than have them being related. But if I delete, say "Group A" from the string "Group A+Group B" then the person disappears from the Group A. If that isn't too confusing to you, I would be grateful for some assistance in order to edit the existing Groups and keep the enries separate. -- Best regards, Costas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
