Re: OT: Re: Account configuration file
Hello Thomas and other TBUDLs, On Mon, 15 Jan 2001 12:38:59 +0800, you wrote: On Mon, 15 Jan 2001 03:15:35 +0100GMT (15/01/2001, 10:15 +0800GMT), Jannik Lindquist wrote: JL I realize this - I am simply taking the liberty of asking why. You are JL free to answer that you don't want to tell me - but please don't JL pretend that a "because!" is an answer to a "why?" It is. It is not. "Because..." is. "Because!" means: You are not going to get an answer, so stop being a pest. Other than that, I think you're killing horses here. ;-) I am quite interested in the subject discussed in this thread and in the "Multiple e-mail everything"-thread. I spend quite some time thinking on Oliviers problem and trying to answer it. He promised me an answer, but before he had a chance to give it on-list, the "Multiple e-mail everything"-thread was killed. As luck would have it the honourable moderator permitted another thread on a variation on these matters on the condition that it would not develop in to a thread about general politics of ISP's, the finer technicalities of SMTP-servers or to technical matters in general. I took great pains in my previous post to specify that what interested *me* in this discussion was *how to operatete TB* - and to express myself without getting into to techical details. If the moderator think this is off-topic, I'll be *very* disappointed. But that you take it upon you to act as moderator-assistant disappoints me even more. It adds to this newcomers impression of being in a posh discussion club where the official rules equals the whims of the chairman and the long standing members. Best regards, Jannik -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Account configuration file
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jannik, On 14 January 2001 at 12:24:59 +0100 (which was 11:24 where I live) Jannik Lindquist wrote and made these points: JL IMHO, it's getting mighty hard to tell what's on-topic and what's JL off-topic now!!! Not really. It seems pretty easy to me (and the dozen or so that left the list during the long and drawn out discussion that shouldn't have been continued here in the first place). If it's about TB configuration options, templates, macros, RegExes, "how to"s in general, then it's right to discuss it here. When it becomes about ISP SMTP policy it is clearly OT and should be discussed on TBOT. That discussion stopped being about TB itself and "how to" within about 2 replies. That's when it went OT and should have left the list. I have had "thank you" messages for reining that one in, so it wasn't just my arbitrary judgement that made it OT. It *clearly* was. TO ALL Now - enough of that. This is not an "experts" discussion list. Try to use your own judgement as to when you're stepping outside of matters of general interest and direct relevance to TB. Don't just leave it to me to wave the "big stick". /TO ALL - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.49c S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOmGYYDnkJKuSnc2gEQKcWACgswJAIAAI3mdT47xTRaC/qo9xFicAoIUq XrkF1JVmWgfur++h74TZdIjN =7VoJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Account configuration file
Hallo Jannik, On Sun, 14 Jan 2001 12:24:59 +0100 GMT (14/01/2001, 19:24 +0800 GMT), Jannik Lindquist wrote: MDP :-) to be fair, Olivier has acknowledged that and has returned the MDP topic to that of TB's configuration file format and started a new MDP thread to hold that. Jannik IMHO, it's getting mighty hard to tell what's on-topic and what's Jannik off-topic now!!! I guess when it's about TB, it's on-topic, but when a few messages in the thread have related to things that have nothing to do with TB any more (general discussions about ISP's and SMTP servers, for example), it's off-topic. Jannik To stress the point: I am not asking a question about ISP's, SMTP's Jannik and what not. I am simply asking why anyone would *ever* want to set Jannik up TB with more than *one* mailbox when it isn't necessary. I have seperate accounts because I want to. TB gives me the possibility to do just that, and I want to use it. REason enough. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. What's the difference between a brown-noser and a shithead? Depth perception. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49c under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Account configuration file
On 14-01-2001 at 00:10, Olivier Reubens kindly wrote: The information for each The Bat! mail account is apparently stored in a file called ACCOUNT.CFG (stored at drive:\TheBat\Main\Mailbox\), Coorect. Is there a formal description of how this file is made up ? No, unfortunately not. If yes, I could modify my "OnConnect" program to fill in the details of my current ISP and change the SMTP server setting depending on what ISP I'm connected to. This would basically solve my problem altogether. Ah, perhaps what you could do is work with a batch file... Create an account.cfg for all your accounts, store them in a safe place (perhaps drive:\TheBat\Main\extra\), and then have a batch file copy the appriopriate .cfg into your \Main\Mailbox program, so that TB has the correct information for that dial-up available. Then, wehn you connect to another provider, your batch file will copy *that* account's information to the proper place. - K - -- A virus is only doing its job. It's trying to live its life. The fact that it's destroying you by doing so is not its fault. - David Cronenberg in an interview -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Account configuration file
Hi Karin, On Sun, 14 Jan 2001, at 15:24:42 +0100 you wrote: KS Ah, perhaps what you could do is work with a batch file... KS Create an account.cfg for all your accounts, store them in a KS safe place (perhaps drive:\TheBat\Main\extra\), and then KS have a batch file copy the appriopriate .cfg into your KS \Main\Mailbox program [...] I thought about that, too. But what would happen if you wanted to change something in your account setup? What is stored in those files? Column settings? Filter rules? If you changed these, it could be a real mess to recreate your backup .cfg files :-( -- Regards, Lars The Bat! 1.49c on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 |Lars Geiger | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=GetPublicKey | -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Account configuration file
On Sun, 14 Jan 2001 16:19:18 +0100, you wrote: I thought about that, too. But what would happen if you wanted to change something in your account setup? What is stored in those files? Column settings? Filter rules? If you changed these, it could be a real mess to recreate your backup .cfg files :-( The make-multiple-files-and-just-copy-right-one solution had occured to me. but you stated it right on the nose why I'm not feeling very comfortable in doing it that way. If the file _ONLY_ has account details, it wouldn't be a problem. But it appears also templates are stored in it. Experimenting so far only resulted in crashing TheBat! several times :-( -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Account configuration file
On 14-01-2001 at 19:01, Olivier Reubens kindly wrote: On Sun, 14 Jan 2001 16:19:18 +0100, you wrote: [me suggesting batch files connected to dial-up entries, and therein copying the appropriate account.cfg to its proper place] I thought about that, too. But what would happen if you wanted to change something in your account setup? What is stored in those files? Column settings? Filter rules? If you changed these, it could be a real mess to recreate your backup .cfg files :-( The make-multiple-files-and-just-copy-right-one solution had occured to me. but you stated it right on the nose why I'm not feeling very comfortable in doing it that way. If the file _ONLY_ has account details, it wouldn't be a problem. But it appears also templates are stored in it. Create several users and a Grouyp user. Then, in the future, log in to TB using the Group User account. Templates and filters created from the Group User account will appear in *all* account.cgf files. Done ;-) - K - -- If God had not given freedom of speech to the snake, then none of us would be here today. Perhaps the followers of God should remember this when they criticize the followers of the snake for speaking their minds, and vice versa. - Zenon Panoussis -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Account configuration file
Hello Olivier, Sunday, January 14, 2001, 12:10:53 AM, you wrote: I've been giving TheBat! a thourough testing, and it's addressing all of my needs EXCEPT for a more automatic way to change SMTP servers of the various accounts. I don't know if that was already suggested by someone else. It seems to me that you might want to consider using an external program called X-Ray. From the readme-file: X-Ray is a mail-filtering program. Major objectives of X-Ray are: 1. To provide privacy by removing unwanted mail headers; * 2. To make it convenient to switch between several different incoming and outgoing mail servers without reconfiguring your mail software; 3. To operate stably and unobtrusively. If you want to take a look, go to http://www.xrayapp.com/. David -- David Buntenbroich e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.buntenbroich.de The Bat! 1.49c on Windows NT 5 0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
OT: Re: Account configuration file
Hi Jannik, On Mon, 15 Jan 2001 03:15:35 +0100GMT (15/01/2001, 10:15 +0800GMT), Jannik Lindquist wrote: JL I realize this - I am simply taking the liberty of asking why. You are JL free to answer that you don't want to tell me - but please don't JL pretend that a "because!" is an answer to a "why?" It is. Other than that, I think you're killing horses here. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49c under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Account configuration file
On 13-01-2001 at 00:10:53GMT +0100 (which was 23:10 where I live) Olivier Reubens wrote regarding the subject of "Account configuration file" Hello Olivier, Olivier I've been giving TheBat! a thourough testing, and it's addressing all Olivier of my needs EXCEPT for a more automatic way to change SMTP servers of Olivier the various accounts. There's nothing you can do about this and this discussion has been dead-horsed so you're stretching your luck with Marck here! Regards -- Manfred ___ [ TheBat 1.49c (FE1905D5), Windows 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1, RC 1.1 ] "I represent Angry Gun-Toting Meat-Eating People!" - Dennis Leary -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Account configuration file
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Manfred, On 13 January 2001 at 23:40:24 + (which was 23:40 where I live) Manfred Ell wrote and made these points: Olivier I've been giving TheBat! a thourough testing, and it's addressing all Olivier of my needs EXCEPT for a more automatic way to change SMTP servers of Olivier the various accounts. ME There's nothing you can do about this and this discussion has been ME dead-horsed so you're stretching your luck with Marck here! :-) to be fair, Olivier has acknowledged that and has returned the topic to that of TB's configuration file format and started a new thread to hold that. IIRC someone mentioned that, by using multiple permutations whereby all possible accounts are defined with all possible server combinations, then the command line /ACCOUNT= invocation can be used to switch to the right one at the right time. Creative filtering can consolidate the mail into the correct core account and Read filters can then proliferate to sub-folders. However, I think that, if Olivier can come up with a way of dynamically setting the SMTP address within the config file (and yes, it is a pain that standard .ini files aren't used g), then he's onto a winner. You may have to just "experiment" here, Olivier. I don't remember anyone having owned up to having done anything like this and I've been on the list from day one (of course). Right now, this is a new thread and on-topic, so let's let it ride a few deep, but not to get too techy, carried away into realms of ISP policy and open SMTP relays lest we scare the less hardy amongst us. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.49c S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOmDvAjnkJKuSnc2gEQI2cgCgxGdY8CicLL3gsQdxeL8+ovudmq4AoI7L dmeB2GhHeI6pAF2xqXwvJyr2 =nVvW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Account configuration file
Hallo Olivier, On Sun, 14 Jan 2001 00:10:53 +0100 GMT (14/01/2001, 07:10 +0800 GMT), Olivier Reubens wrote: Olivier Is there a formal description of how this file is made up ? No. :-( Olivier If yes, I Olivier could modify my "OnConnect" program to fill in the details of my Olivier current ISP and change the SMTP server setting depending on what ISP Olivier I'm connected to. This would basically solve my problem altogether. Correct. This functionality is another module for the delopers wto write, as this wish has come forward a few times. While you describe what should be done, it cannot at the moment. Maybe, if you send a message to RITlabs, they will give you the description, and if you succeed in switching the SMTP server automatically, let us know! :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. What happens if you get scared half to death twice? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49c under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
