Re: Blocking mail from specific sender?
Hello Susanne, (S == "Susanne") [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, in that case (attachments), you could just go into Account Properties / Mail Management / and check "Receive message header only if size is greater than ___ " S I had heard this doesn't always work well (meaning the actual S message/attachment is deleted, even if you want to download it later). S There are some large attachments in private mails that I *do* S want to receive. It shouldn't delete anything. It should just send you the headers if the message is over X bytes. Then you can decide if you want the whole thing. S Can anyone let me know what their experiences with this function S are? -- ... Brian Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-KeyID: 0xE4D0C7C8 Web Architect, Designer, and Programmer Tel: 864.227.0750 http://www.fusionwerks.com/ Fax: 864.942.7249 ... -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Blocking mail from specific sender?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 30 Dec 2000 00:14:48 -0800, Susanne graced us with these comments: S I had heard this doesn't always work well (meaning the actual S message/attachment is deleted, even if you want to download it S later). There are some large attachments in private mails that I *do* S want to receive. S Can anyone let me know what their experiences with this function S are? If you leave mail on the server then you should have no problem with using this option. It's just that if you enable deletion of mail from the server after download in the account properties, the messages that exceed your size limit will also be deleted from the server. Personally, I delete messages from the server using my filters and use a message size limit. The option to delete from the server is in the filter actions section. The messages to which the filters are applied are deleted during the next mail check. This works very well for me since all my messages are filtered via my spam filter system. With this method, the only messages that remain on the server and aren't downloaded automatically, are messages that exceed the size limit. I can then use the message dispatcher to inspect and download/delete as I desire. Advantages of this method are that if you have a limited mailbox size, it keeps your mailbox level down, and it avoids clutter by preventing having to search through a lot of mail to find those with large attachments (mind you, the sort by message size option in the dispatcher eases the pain of the latter). - -- @~@@~@ | A. Curtis Martin [List Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA] | | PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey | @_@ (Opinions given are mine and not those of RITLABS) @_@ __ TB! v1.48h | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender and message authentication. iQA/AwUBOk2eDVfJ62ArBxfiEQKq+wCgot3w89cNQxvqKQS2u9UVpAL647UAoJIB 0XJA1COQwlF+mZWvqolzr6+F =Nmy7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Blocking mail from specific sender?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I thought I'd comment on Brian Clark's contribution to the list, sent on Sat, 30 Dec 2000 03:28:29 -0500: S I had heard this doesn't always work well (meaning the actual S message/attachment is deleted, even if you want to download it S later). There are some large attachments in private mails that I S *do* want to receive. BC It shouldn't delete anything. It should just send you the headers if BC the message is over X bytes. Then you can decide if you want the whole BC thing. AFAIK, the 'delete received messages from server' option in the account properties is indiscriminate in that it will delete even those messages for which only the headers have been downloaded. In fact, I just ran a check and this is still the case!! Be careful with this option!!! If you wish to be able to download large attachments via the dispatcher while restricting the initial download of large attachments, *do not* enable 'delete received messages from server'. You will lose all your large attachments. - -- @~@@~@ | A. Curtis Martin [List Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA] | | PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey | @_@ (Opinions given are mine and not those of RITLABS) @_@ __ TB! v1.48h | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender and message authentication. iQA/AwUBOk2gblfJ62ArBxfiEQKOdgCdHVS9mu3WUXTGgeUmR7zxMjJaBv8AnR78 mm/wlcaaOrIN01Rg7q0uxO3c =RVpz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Blocking mail from specific sender?
Hello A., (CM == "A. Curtis Martin") [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ACM It's just that if you enable deletion of mail from the server ACM after download in the account properties, the messages that ACM exceed your size limit will also be deleted from the server. Oops! I forgot about that. Back to minding my own business... -- ... Brian Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-KeyID: 0xE4D0C7C8 Web Architect, Designer, and Programmer Tel: 864.227.0750 http://www.fusionwerks.com/ Fax: 864.942.7249 ... -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Blocking mail from specific sender?
Hello A., (CM == "A. Curtis Martin") [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ACM Be careful with this option!!! If you wish to be able to download ACM large attachments via the dispatcher while restricting the ACM initial download of large attachments, *do not* enable 'delete ACM received messages from server'. You will lose all your large ACM attachments. As you can tell, I don't use the 'if over X bytes' feature. The first time it happens without prior warning, I politely tell the sender I'll knock them out and tattoo 'Satan's Spawn' on their forehead if the do it again (I'm at 21 kbps dialup at home). -- ... Brian Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-KeyID: 0xE4D0C7C8 Web Architect, Designer, and Programmer Tel: 864.227.0750 http://www.fusionwerks.com/ Fax: 864.942.7249 ... -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Blocking mail from specific sender?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 30 Dec 2000 00:50:05 -0800, Susanne graced us with these comments: [] S Is there a quick and easy way to apply the 'delete from server' S action to all my filters at once, or do I have to go into each filter S to set it? You have to manually make the change in each filter. - -- @~@@~@ | A. Curtis Martin [List Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA] | | PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey | @_@ (Opinions given are mine and not those of RITLABS) @_@ __ TB! v1.48h | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender and message authentication. iQA/AwUBOk2ji1fJ62ArBxfiEQKwhACg2OYvp7QeRDBXWkuocARaAcmrvC0AoOLQ ic3M82mzhFs1JPDswLtdn6J0 =P4UC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Blocking mail from specific sender?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 30 Dec 2000 01:32:32 -0800, Susanne wrote these words of wisdom: S I just tested this out a little and it works fine, if I immediately S go and check the large message, before checking for new mail again. S Otherwise that message gets deleted, since it's covered by one of my S filters. Have you enabled leave messages on server and define like 2 days as the keep time limit? Large messages are not deleted for me unless the server time expires (2 days for me) or I manually delete them with the dispatcher. S I guess there is no setting somewhere to save these larger messages S for a day or so? Or can I accomplish this with a specific filter S regarding size and override all my other filters? This is what I do exactly: In my account properties, mail management settings I have: Leave messages on server. Keep messages on server for 2 days. Receive only headers if message size exceeds 150KB. I then enable delete message from server in all my filters. What is really happening here is that TB! will not delete any messages from the server unless: a) the message has exceeded the defined duration of stay on the server. The duration being defined by the 'keep messages on server for x days' option. b) directed to do so by a filter. A filter will not delete a message from the server unless it has actually filtered the message. Messages that exceed your defined size limit do not reach the inbox, so they shouldn't be deleted. WAIT, hold a minute!! I think I know what is wrong. You are filtering the large message notification aren't you, and the filter that catches these large message notifications also has the server delete option enabled right? Do the following and see if it helps: Create a new filter and place it at the top of your filter list. I named mine 'large message notifier'. Source Folder : Inbox Destination Folder: Inbox Filter strings: String: "The Bat!" ; Location: Sender ; Presence: Yes Do not enable 'delete message from server' for this filter. - -- @~@@~@ | A. Curtis Martin [List Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA] | | PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey | @_@ (Opinions given are mine and not those of RITLABS) @_@ __ TB! v1.48h | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender and message authentication. iQA/AwUBOk2vYFfJ62ArBxfiEQKlOACgwMvu06oFEksBBnYXPN4hVI1NeG4An2bN p/A46Uq3yBZCPQdWvaAhoyjt =FkId -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Large message download (was: Re: Blocking mail from specific sender?)
Hallo Brian, On Sat, 30 Dec 2000 03:44:14 -0500 GMT (30/12/2000, 16:44 +0800 GMT), Brian Clark wrote: ACM It's just that if you enable deletion of mail from the server ACM after download in the account properties, the messages that ACM exceed your size limit will also be deleted from the server. BC Oops! I forgot about that. BC Back to minding my own business... No, that's fine. I liked the way Eudora Light handles large messages when I still used it (I don't remmeber what version that was): You set "delete messages on server". You set "download messages up to a size of xxx KB". When a larger message comes in, only the headers will be downloaded, plus an icon indicating that the rest of the message is still on the server. If you click on this icon, the full message will be downloaded at the next mailcheck. If you do not click on this icon, the message will be deleted from server after a while (two days or so?), and the icon will disappear from the message. I find this the most elegant solution I have seen so far. -- Cheers, Thomas. "Some day we may discover how to make magnets that can point in any direction." Message reply created with The Bat! 1.48h under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Blocking mail from specific sender?
Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Friday, December 29, 2000, Susanne wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] about Blocking mail from specific sender?: S Is it possible to automatically block a specific senders mail, S without having to download it first? Check selective download section at sorting office, but that will slow down the session, because if at least one rule present, TB! will download all headers first, then aplly filters and only after that it will start downloading. -- Best regards, Oleg Zalyalov. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! version 1.48f under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Blocking mail from specific sender?
Hi Susanne, On Fri, 29 Dec 2000 01:11:50 -0800GMT (29/12/2000, 17:11 +0800GMT), Susanne wrote: S Is it possible to automatically block a specific senders mail, S without having to download it first? Account / Sorting Office / Selective Download. Create a New filter and select Kill under Advanced. Disadvantage of selective download filters (if you have at least one) is that TB will download all headers first, check them against selective download filters, delete messages on server if appropriate, and then only start downloading the messages. So if the sender sends a lot of messages, or very long ones, this may make sense; otherwise, I would create an incoming filter and choose "Delete" under the action tab. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.48f under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Blocking mail from specific sender?
Hello Susanne, (S == "Susanne") [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Check selective download section at sorting office, but that will slow down the session, because if at least one rule present, TB! will download all headers first, then aplly filters and only after that it will start downloading. S Thanks for the advice! S So, I have a choice between slow downloads because of this person S sending huge attachments to a mailing list or slow downloads S because of the filter g? Well, in that case (attachments), you could just go into Account Properties / Mail Management / and check "Receive message header only if size is greater than ___ " -- ... Brian Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-KeyID: 0xE4D0C7C8 Web Architect, Designer, and Programmer Tel: 864.227.0750 http://www.fusionwerks.com/ Fax: 864.942.7249 ... -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
