Re: Filtering on server side

2000-10-04 Thread Jason Thompson


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Hello Michal and everyone else...

MK Is the possibility to filter e-mails before receive into the BAT?

Yes, to a lesser extent. You'll notice a section of the Sorting Office
titled "Selective Download". The filters in this section will be
applied to messages before they are downloaded. If a match is found,
the message will be deleted from the server or ignored before it ever
came to you.

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Re: Filtering on server

2000-02-18 Thread John De Hoog

Leif Gregory wrote...

You can use "kill" filters to delete mail from the server before
downloading it. The kill filters are co-located with the new, read,
outgoing, and replied filters.

It would be nice, though, if someone, somewhere explained what the 
"Routing" filters actually filter on.


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Re: Filtering on server

2000-02-18 Thread Leif Gregory

Hello Nick,

On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 at 07:35:49 [GMT -0800], you wrote:
NA Leif, is that information about the kill filters in the FAQ? I
NA can't remember reading that specific information about the kill
NA filters actually deleting right off the server. Has anyone yet
NA been able to explain Tom's question about "routing"?

No. I had thought it was in the Help file (a real quick check though,
and it didn't jump right out at me though.) I guess I should put it in
the FAQ because I've seen the question a few times.

I've used it quite a bit in the past (before I got my own domain name
and SPAM dropped to zero.)

It does delete messages off the server, but first TB will download all
the message headers, match your kill filter criteria, start
downloading messages, and then when it gets to a message that matched
your kill filter, it just skips over it and tells the server to delete
it.




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Re: Filtering on server

2000-02-18 Thread John De Hoog

Leif,

The question you still didn't address is: What is Routing? 

More specifically, when you set a string in a Routing kill filter, which 
headers does The Bat! examine to find that string? In my experiments it 
did not look at the To: header.

This really should be in the Help file.

Leif Gregory wrote...

 Has anyone yet
NA been able to explain Tom's question about "routing"?

No. I had thought it was in the Help file (a real quick check though,
and it didn't jump right out at me though.) I guess I should put it in
the FAQ because I've seen the question a few times.

I've used it quite a bit in the past (before I got my own domain name
and SPAM dropped to zero.)

It does delete messages off the server, but first TB will download all
the message headers, match your kill filter criteria, start
downloading messages, and then when it gets to a message that matched
your kill filter, it just skips over it and tells the server to delete
it.


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Re: Filtering on server

2000-02-18 Thread Leif Gregory

Hello John, 

On Sat, 19 Feb 2000 at 11:25:07 [GMT +0900], you wrote:
JDH The question you still didn't address is: What is Routing? More
JDH specifically, when you set a string in a Routing kill filter,
JDH which headers does The Bat! examine to find that string? In my
JDH experiments it did not look at the To: header.

JDH This really should be in the Help file.


Sorry, one of those things that you thought everybody knew.

Ok, the routing kill filters are matched based on the RECEIVED (from)
lines, which are basically a log of the hops the message took in
getting to you.

Because the spammer may have changed their FROM address, SUBJECT,
REPLY-TO, and TO info for each message they send, you can't
filter on that. This is where routing kill filters can come in handy.

Let's say you find out a bunch of your spam seems to pass through a
particular server which allows relaying (a spammers best friend), you
can kill messages based on that server appearing in the hop log
(RECEIVED (from)).

For example, take a look at the below headers from a message I had
sent to TBUDL a little while back.

Received: from thebat.dutaint.com (ns2.dutaint.com [202.134.1.243]) by mail.ave.com 
(8.9.2/8.8.8)
with ESMTP id JAA14327 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 09:07:31 -0500 (EST)
Received: from msa.att.ne.jp by thebat.dutaint.com with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.0.0.0n.R) for
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 05 Feb 2000 21:05:49 +0700
Received: from 20.gate5.mis.att.ne.jp (20.gate5.mis.att.ne.jp
[165.76.26.186]) by msa.att.ne.jp (8.8.8+Spin/3.6W-CONS(11/04/99)) id XAA19318; Sat, 5 
Feb 2000 23:05:13 +0900 (JST)


Any text contained in the RECEIVED header can be used for the routing
kill filter, but you'll generally want to kill based on a server:

thebat.dutaint.com
ns2.dutaint.com
mail.ave.com
msa.att.ne.jp
20.gate5.mis.att.ne.jp
etc...


Ok, this should clear that issue up. I'll probably write a little
better explanation and stick it in the FAQ later.


Leif Gregory 

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