Re: Filtering on server side
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Michal and everyone else... MK Is the possibility to filter e-mails before receive into the BAT? Yes, to a lesser extent. You'll notice a section of the Sorting Office titled "Selective Download". The filters in this section will be applied to messages before they are downloaded. If a match is found, the message will be deleted from the server or ignored before it ever came to you. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Encryption. It's what's for dinner. iQA/AwUBOdtk6K2yGRAwhL7EEQIRDQCgpS4k8b22zqiToxlZQU7mWLvA7NAAoKoh rCqhXkw3Oy+rGyF3ThL74OVJ =5+jr -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Jason Thompson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key ID: 0x3084BEC4 [The Bat! v1.47 Beta/5] --- The mind is the standard of the man. --Joseph Merrick //The Bat! v1.47 Beta/5 //Win98 v4.10 build 1998 //AMD K6-2 400mhz 128mb -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filtering on server
Leif Gregory wrote... You can use "kill" filters to delete mail from the server before downloading it. The kill filters are co-located with the new, read, outgoing, and replied filters. It would be nice, though, if someone, somewhere explained what the "Routing" filters actually filter on. -- John De Hoog, Tokyo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Email software: http://dehoog.org/html/j-email.html -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filtering on server
Hello Nick, On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 at 07:35:49 [GMT -0800], you wrote: NA Leif, is that information about the kill filters in the FAQ? I NA can't remember reading that specific information about the kill NA filters actually deleting right off the server. Has anyone yet NA been able to explain Tom's question about "routing"? No. I had thought it was in the Help file (a real quick check though, and it didn't jump right out at me though.) I guess I should put it in the FAQ because I've seen the question a few times. I've used it quite a bit in the past (before I got my own domain name and SPAM dropped to zero.) It does delete messages off the server, but first TB will download all the message headers, match your kill filter criteria, start downloading messages, and then when it gets to a message that matched your kill filter, it just skips over it and tells the server to delete it. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site http://www.pcwize.com TBUDL FAQ http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.41 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: A one-bit brain with a parity error. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filtering on server
Leif, The question you still didn't address is: What is Routing? More specifically, when you set a string in a Routing kill filter, which headers does The Bat! examine to find that string? In my experiments it did not look at the To: header. This really should be in the Help file. Leif Gregory wrote... Has anyone yet NA been able to explain Tom's question about "routing"? No. I had thought it was in the Help file (a real quick check though, and it didn't jump right out at me though.) I guess I should put it in the FAQ because I've seen the question a few times. I've used it quite a bit in the past (before I got my own domain name and SPAM dropped to zero.) It does delete messages off the server, but first TB will download all the message headers, match your kill filter criteria, start downloading messages, and then when it gets to a message that matched your kill filter, it just skips over it and tells the server to delete it. -- John De Hoog [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filtering on server
Hello John, On Sat, 19 Feb 2000 at 11:25:07 [GMT +0900], you wrote: JDH The question you still didn't address is: What is Routing? More JDH specifically, when you set a string in a Routing kill filter, JDH which headers does The Bat! examine to find that string? In my JDH experiments it did not look at the To: header. JDH This really should be in the Help file. Sorry, one of those things that you thought everybody knew. Ok, the routing kill filters are matched based on the RECEIVED (from) lines, which are basically a log of the hops the message took in getting to you. Because the spammer may have changed their FROM address, SUBJECT, REPLY-TO, and TO info for each message they send, you can't filter on that. This is where routing kill filters can come in handy. Let's say you find out a bunch of your spam seems to pass through a particular server which allows relaying (a spammers best friend), you can kill messages based on that server appearing in the hop log (RECEIVED (from)). For example, take a look at the below headers from a message I had sent to TBUDL a little while back. Received: from thebat.dutaint.com (ns2.dutaint.com [202.134.1.243]) by mail.ave.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA14327 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 09:07:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from msa.att.ne.jp by thebat.dutaint.com with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.0.0.0n.R) for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 05 Feb 2000 21:05:49 +0700 Received: from 20.gate5.mis.att.ne.jp (20.gate5.mis.att.ne.jp [165.76.26.186]) by msa.att.ne.jp (8.8.8+Spin/3.6W-CONS(11/04/99)) id XAA19318; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 23:05:13 +0900 (JST) Any text contained in the RECEIVED header can be used for the routing kill filter, but you'll generally want to kill based on a server: thebat.dutaint.com ns2.dutaint.com mail.ave.com msa.att.ne.jp 20.gate5.mis.att.ne.jp etc... Ok, this should clear that issue up. I'll probably write a little better explanation and stick it in the FAQ later. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site http://www.pcwize.com TBUDL FAQ http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.41 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org