Re: Hide folders with The Bat?

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hi Karin,

On Fri, 22 Dec 2000 12:39:49 +0100GMT (22/12/2000, 19:39 +0800GMT),
Karin Spaink wrote:

KS> I do. I thought I would be especially kind to him, it being
KS> almost Xmas and such ;-)

You are so generous. ;-)

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Re: Hide folders with The Bat?

[Karin Spaink]

On 22-12-2000 at 07:08, Thomas Fernandez kindly wrote:
> Karin Spaink wrote:

KS>> For a lengthy explanation of how to attain this, please
KS>> refer to two of Januk's older postings, of which I
KS>> quote the relevant part:

> You *do* know that we have archives to which you could have pointed
> the gentle reader, right? ;-)

I do. I thought I would be especially kind to him, it being
almost Xmas and such ;-)


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Re: Hide folders with The Bat?

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hi Karin,

On Fri, 22 Dec 2000 02:39:43 +0100GMT (22/12/2000, 09:39 +0800GMT),
Karin Spaink wrote:



KS> For a
KS> lengthy explanation of how to attain this, please refer to
KS> two of Januk's older postings, of which I quote the relevant
KS> part:

You *do* know that we have archives to which you could have pointed
the gentle reader, right? ;-)

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Re: Hide folders with The Bat?

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hi Johan,

On Fri, 22 Dec 2000 00:03:53 +0100GMT (22/12/2000, 07:03 +0800GMT),
Johan Svahn wrote:

JS> Is there a way to "hide" mail folders from the folder tree?

Apart from setting up different users (which will result in different
accounts which may not bne visible, but if I understand you right, you
want to make folders within one account visible and invisible), this
is not possible.

But I like the idea.

Also, kindly advise the URL of Magic Folders. I've never heard of it
but your description makes me curious.

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Re: Hide folders with The Bat?

[Karin Spaink]

On 22-12-2000 at 00:03, Johan Svahn kindly wrote:

> Is there a way to "hide" mail folders from the folder tree?
> If i create "hidden" folders using Magic Folders,

"Magic folders"? Is that an external program?

> Now, this is my Q: Is there an effective and simple way of hiding and
> protecting folders than can sometimes be accessed from within The Bat? I
> want to be able move a specific type of emails into specific folder
> which I can hide/unhide whenever i want.

You can experiment with different 'users' for TB, who each
see different accounts (and thus, different folders). For a
lengthy explanation of how to attain this, please refer to
two of Januk's older postings, of which I quote the relevant
part:


=== fwd msg 01 ===

Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 15:59:26 -0700
From: Januk Aggarwal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Michal Kozusznik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: More users support

... you might want
to explore TB's group options.  Go into Options -> Network & Administration
There, under Privileges, you can make some accounts User level
accounts.  Under Groups, you can create collections of User level
accounts.  Now when you log into TB, TB will ask you for your Name and
Password.  The Name is just the Account name or the Group name.  If
the human types in the name of a group, only the accounts associated
with that group will be visible.  If the human types in a user level
account name, then only that account will be visible.  If the human
types in the name of an Administrator account, then all accounts will
be visible.


=== fwd msg 02 ===

Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 18:30:26 -0700
From: Januk Aggarwal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Marck D. Pearlstone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Multi-user environment (was: Re: Another question on filters and
templates)


Hello Marck,

On  Thursday, October 12, 2000  at  00:13:00 GMT +0100 (which was 4:13 PM
where I live) witnesses say Marck D. Pearlstone typed:


> Group? No se quinosabe. I just have two accounts defined. Simple and
> straight forward. Added through "New account" on the main menu.

Ok, that means they are both Administrator accounts.  If you go into
Network and Administration, you can change the accounts to User and
apply permissions.

>  The
> first is called "Marck". It's my real account and I do everything from
> it.

That sounds like my Januk account.  I have a dummy account to hold all
mailing list mail.  It has no POP/SMTP settings, it depends purely on
other accounts' filters to receive mail.  It also uses
%Account="Januk" macros to be able to send mail through the other
accounts.  This is just to give background on the following:

I just did the test in full gory detail.

1. I made my main account and my dummy account both user level accounts.
2. When I fire up TB, I get a login box asking for my username.
3. So I enter "Januk" and I get my main account and nothing else.
   This is as it should be.
4. Now I received some mailing list mail, and it got filtered out
   of my main account.  The little bat is flapping it's little heart
   out, but there is no new mail in this account.
5. I shut down TB and relaunch it.  This time I enter my mailing list
   account name and I see only the mailing list account.  Good.  The
   missing mail is sitting in the appropriate folder.  Great.  That
   answers my original question.

Despite the user "Januk" not being able to see "Mailing Lists",
"Januk" can still filter mail to "Mailing Lists."  Now the test
continues:

6. I tried to create a filter from "Mailing Lists" to "Januk" while
   logged in as only a user (not Administrator).  I can only create
   filters to the current account.  Fine.

So a user has no way of knowing from within TB how many other accounts
exist.  However, the user can know that other accounts exist since the
little animation will flap when *any* account has new mail, even if
you can't see that account.  So let's check some other details:

7. I checked my quick templates.  I can not access QT's from other
   accounts despite the "Share with other accounts" option.  This
   seems like a bug.

8. I opened a new message.  My template comes up ok.  This is strange,
   that template is a QT defined in another account. But, typing in a
   QT Handle from another account +  results in "QT
   handle not found" errors.

This certainly seems like a bug.  I gave permission to all accounts to
use those QT's when I defined them.  Why shouldn't I be able to
manually access them in any way?

Almost done with the testing here, let's try checking mail for all
accounts.  Remember I'm in the "Mailing List" account with no POP/SMTP
settings.  So I expect either an error or all other accounts to be
checked.

9. A quick  nothing happens.  Ok, I expected that.

10. Let's verify by clicking on the little down arrow on the check
mail icon off the toolbar. Wait a second, all the accounts are
listed here.  I click on my main account, mail checks o