Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Urban]

Wednesday, September 17, 2003, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

U>> TB is entirely consistent in this. Both the British and the American
U>> spellcheckers redlines synchronise here.

> Yes, but the CSAPI British dictionary is more accurate and correctly
> redlines synchrinize 

That doesn't change the fact that it would be a good idea if TB's
interface and the IntPack were consistent with eachother.

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Marck D Pearlstone]

@17-Sep-2003, 18:24 Marck D Pearlstone [MDP] in
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MDP> correctly redlines synchrinize ...

... and synchronize  (d'oh!).

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Marck D Pearlstone]

Hi Urban,

@17-Sep-2003, 12:17 +0200 (11:17 UK time) Urban [U] in
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Marck:

>> TB, being an effectively European product uses standard British
>> English spellings throughout.

U> TB is entirely consistent in this. Both the British and the
U> American spellcheckers redlines synchronise here.

Yes, but the CSAPI British dictionary is more accurate and correctly
redlines synchrinize (and why are you arguing British spelling with
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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Urban]

Wednesday, September 17, 2003, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

> TB, being an effectively European product uses standard British
> English spellings throughout.

TB is entirely consistent in this. Both the British and the American
spellcheckers redlines synchronise here.

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Marck D Pearlstone]

Hi Urban,

@17-Sep-2003, 00:49 +0200 (23:49 UK time) Urban [U] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to
myob:

U> Tuesday, September 16, 2003, myob wrote:

>> SmartBat. [A word not in the dictionary, I see.]

U> Wow, I just discovered... Neither is the word synchronise (in the
U> Tools menu) The word synchronize, however, seems to be correct.

Synchronise is British English. Synchronize is the American
spelling, now also adopted in British English as an alternative
spelling. TB, being an effectively European product uses standard
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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Urban]

Tuesday, September 16, 2003, myob wrote:

> SmartBat. [A word not in the dictionary, I see.]

Wow, I just discovered...
Neither is the word synchronise (in the Tools menu)
The word synchronize, however, seems to be correct.

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Jack,

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 11:48:27 -0500 GMT (16/09/2003, 23:48 +0700 GMT),
Jack Morrison wrote:

> I vote for the above.

I have sent it to the wishlist as "Bug report 1720". I don't know why
it is called a bug report, I checked and I was really in the wishlist.

> And my ballot has been swept of all hanging chads.

LOL!

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Richard Wakeford]

Hello Mark,

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 you wrote in 

JM>> Now try to delete it.  Good luck with that!

> Where is the 'Delete pad' command. I can only find a 'Close pad' under the
> context menu? I have a 'Delete' option only under the Editor section of
> the menu which I assume applies to selected text?

That's probably why the "delete" command doesn't work on the pad
itself because it's a text delete command.

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[myob]

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 20:17:30 -0500 GMT(16/09/2003, 2:17 AM + GMT), Jack Morrison 
wrote:

JM> First, create a "new pad" in SmartBat.  For example, a
JM> new pad named "Clips."

JM> Now try to delete it.  Good luck with that!

I was unable to delete things too - which is why I stopped
using SmartBat. [A word not in the dictionary, I see.]

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Mark L]

Hello Jack,

Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 2:17:30 AM, you wrote:

JM> Now try to delete it.  Good luck with that!

Where is the 'Delete pad' command. I can only find a 'Close pad' under the
context menu? I have a 'Delete' option only under the Editor section of
the menu which I assume applies to selected text?
The Close pad I find useful as you can then reopen Pads to edit them
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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Allie,

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 22:40:23 -0500 GMT (16/09/2003, 10:40 +0700 GMT),
Allie Martin wrote:

TF>> The latter is because I might use it the way you indicate, but not
TF>> always, so... ;-)

> It's a great way to keep a cookie file growing.

Right. I just tried it. It is much more convenient than firing up vim
every time I come across a new cookie.

> In fact, in all my uses, I don't wish to delete the linked text document
> if I wish to delete the pad in SmartBat!

I see no reason to delete the tab.

> My only grouse here is that SmartBat! doesn't seem to offer a means
> of you knowing where the linked text file is and its name.

The name of the file is identical with the name of the tab. Default
location is "...\The Bat!\Mail", but if you navigate and open a file
in another directory, I cannot find a way to make that directory
visible, either.

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Allie Martin]

Thomas Fernandez, [TF] wrote:

TF> The latter is because I might use it the way you indicate, but not
TF> always, so... ;-)

It's a great way to keep a cookie file growing.

I also use it to edit my mass mailing template.

I save occasional clips of text that I wish to keep.

In fact, in all my uses, I don't wish to delete the linked text document
if I wish to delete the pad in SmartBat!

My only grouse here is that SmartBat! doesn't seem to offer a means of
you knowing where the linked text file is and its name.

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Allie,

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 22:19:33 -0500 GMT (16/09/2003, 10:19 +0700 GMT),
Allie Martin wrote:

TF>> The point is, TB should delete the file automatically.

> If so, then optional please. If no option, then leave as is. I've been
> using it as a means to edit certain text files quickly. If I wish to no
> longer do so, I wish to remove the pad and not delete the actual file at
> the same time. An automatic deletion would assume that the only reason
> one would have need for the linked text file would be in the context of
> SmartBat use.

Ohm that's a way of using SmartBat I never thought about - a
replacement text editor.

Well, we have different needs here, so I agree that whether or not the
file should be deleted when the pad is deleted thought be optional.
Setting in SmartBat itself:

1.) Delete text file when pad is deleted
2.) Keep text file when pad is deleted
3.) Ask every time

The latter is because I might use it the way you indicate, but not
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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Allie Martin]

Thomas Fernandez, [TF] wrote:

TF> Yes, it will delete the file manually, using Windows functions that
TF> way. Or any other way. The point is, TB should delete the file
TF> automatically.

If so, then optional please. If no option, then leave as is. I've been
using it as a means to edit certain text files quickly. If I wish to no
longer do so, I wish to remove the pad and not delete the actual file at
the same time. An automatic deletion would assume that the only reason
one would have need for the linked text file would be in the context of
SmartBat use.

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Richard Wakeford]

Hello Thomas,

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 you wrote in 

> Yes, it will delete the file manually, using Windows functions that
> way. Or any other way. The point is, TB should delete the file
> automatically.

Can't argue with that ;-)

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Jack,

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 21:08:45 -0500 GMT (16/09/2003, 09:08 +0700 GMT),
Jack Morrison wrote:

>> Confirmed. When you report it to backtrack, please advise the Bug ID
>> number for those of us who want to keep an eye on it.

> I haven't reported anything, because I'm not even sure what to
> report yet.

We are working on it. When people confirm what I have just described,
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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Richard,

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 02:59:50 +0100 GMT (16/09/2003, 08:59 +0700 GMT),
Richard Wakeford wrote:

>> But the text file stays on the HD.

> Select "New pad". Right click on selected pad from file list and
> select "delete". Poof, gone ;-)

Yes, it will delete the file manually, using Windows functions that
way. Or any other way. The point is, TB should delete the file
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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Jack,

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 21:07:14 -0500 GMT (16/09/2003, 09:07 +0700 GMT),
Jack Morrison wrote:

>> I had two entries in the Main Tab. When I open SmartBat, the new tab
>> is opened automatically, and I see the older of the two entries from
>> the maintab in the new tab.

> Shouldn't there be a way to set the default opening tab?

Maybe. But that would be a wishlist item and not a bug report. ;-)

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Richard Wakeford]

Hello Thomas,

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 you wrote in 

>> If you use "Close pad" instead, then it goes - no missile needed. Not
>> the way it should work I know, but it does ;-)

> But the text file stays on the HD.

Select "New pad". Right click on selected pad from file list and
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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Richard,

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 02:31:01 +0100 GMT (16/09/2003, 08:31 +0700 GMT),
Richard Wakeford wrote:

>> Now try to delete it.  Good luck with that!

> If you use "Close pad" instead, then it goes - no missile needed. Not
> the way it should work I know, but it does ;-)

But the text file stays on the HD.

I have noticed that the missing part from the main pad is back now
that I have used "Close Pad". So that one is simply a display bug.

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Jack,

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 20:17:30 -0500 GMT (16/09/2003, 08:17 +0700 GMT),
Jack Morrison wrote:

> First, create a "new pad" in SmartBat.  For example, a new pad named
> "Clips."

> Now try to delete it.  Good luck with that!
> It will remain in the SmartBat's tabular index no matter what you do.

Confirmed. When you report it to backtrack, please advise the Bug ID
number for those of us who want to keep an eye on it.

> You can even fire a cruise missile at it, totally destroying it via
> Microsoft Explorer, but it will *still* be included in the tabular index.

I didn't try the cruise missile thing, so that part is not
confirmed... By MS Explorer, I guess you mean windows Explorer and not
Internet Explorer, and I used total Commander instead and deleted the
file while TB closed. Upon restart of TB, the tab is still there in
SmartBat, but of course the text is gone. But it is not empty:

I had two entries in the Main Tab. When I open SmartBat, the new tab
is opened automatically, and I see the older of the two entries from
the maintab in the new tab. When I go to the main tab, that entry is
missing. Back to the new tab, it is gone there too. Closing SmartBat
and reopening it shows the entry back in the new tab and missing from
the main tab, but gone again when going back to the new tab. No text
file for the new tab on the HD. Anybody can confirm this?

So, I type something into the new tab. A text file gets created on the
HD. Close SmartBat, reopen, the old entry from the main tab is there
again, plus the newly-type text. Main tab is still missing that entry.
Back to new tab shows only the newly-typed text. Text file on HD
contains only the newly-typed text. Is anybody seeing the same?

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Richard Wakeford]

Hello Jack,

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 you wrote in 

> First, create a "new pad" in SmartBat.  For example, a new pad named
> "Clips."

> Now try to delete it.  Good luck with that!

If you use "Close pad" instead, then it goes - no missile needed. Not
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