Re: Weird TB! crash problem
On Tuesday, June 10, 2003, 9:59:31 PM, Anna wrote: I boot it up, regardless of how long it's been since the last boot-up, and get a message: Tasks are still active. Would you like to exit when they are finished? Regardless of whether I answer Y or N, it shuts itself down within 10 seconds. This has happened up to five consecutive times before it finally stays open. I seldom have the patience to get that far. The *only* time this doesn't happen is on initial computer start-up in the a.m. Looking at your original message again, it might be helpful to clarify what you are saying, before looking at the options. When I first read your message, I assumed that TB was closing itself down when you first stated the computer. However, you say that this does not happen when you first start the computer in the morning. From this I guess you mean that TB runs fine the first time that you run it when you start the computer in the morning, but then you close TB down and start it again several times during the day. Is this correct? If it is, then I think that the problem could be that TB is not shutting down properly, and that when you try to restart it, you get the message because the previous instance of it is still running. One thing that you could do, after you think that TB has closed down, is to have a look in the Task Manager to see if it is still running. You can run the Task Manager by pressing Ctrl-Alt-Del and then picking Task Manager from the options. Have a look on the Applications tab, and you will see all the applications that are currently running. Is TB one of them? What else is running? This is not an answer, but an attempt to get some more background to what is happening. Other people on the list will find the answer once they have enough information! Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Weird TB! crash problem
One other tidbit regarding the Task Manager: I kept it open while sending a message to see if something didn't close after the msg was sent. Something called Connection Centre opened up, then closed when the message is sent, but nothing hangs on as obviously stuck and running when it shouldn't. I'm about to check whether TB will stay open or not if I reboot it following this little episode (but of course I can't do that before sending this). Anna mistress of bits pieces Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Weird TB! crash problem
I hope doing it this way keeps this in the proper thread. :0 Okay. With Task Manager on, I shut down TB. TB disappeared. I double-clicked the desktop shortcut. TB loaded and showed twice in TM: Once with the TB logo, the second one with a rectangular icon with a blue strip across the top with a few white dots on the right side. I clicked Processes for both, and each one said PID 520, with everything else (CPU use, I guess) at 0. A few seconds later, both TB processes (?) shut down and disappeared. TB is now up, but the only icon in Task Manager is the white rectangular one. I have NO idea whether this will be helpful, but here it is. Thanks, Anna Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Weird TB! crash problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Anna, [A] wrote: A TB is now up, but the only icon in Task Manager is the white A rectangular one. A I have NO idea whether this will be helpful, but here it is. Right click on that last TB! process and select 'end process'. Select 'yes' on the confirmation dialog to end the process. Now restart TB! from the desktop and see what happens. - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/10 on WinXP Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: My Public Keys - http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html iEYEARECAAYFAj7pDeoACgkQV8nrYCsHF+I7oACg6NIIqf5VZDbGdQFH3+jamyRn t44An1IrBxB4YoJB39ZWQbE6rTHCcP+i =n4YA -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Weird TB! crash problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Anna, [A] wrote: MDP That's all I can think of. Edit the shortcut. A I have no idea how to do that, but if that were at fault, it should A crash only with the desktop shortcut and it's not limited to that. A Thanks for trying. Any other ideas will be gratefully accepted. What other applications do you have running on your system? Would you try starting The Bat! with no other application running? I mean here, no antivirus software, no firewall, no other shell applications or background applications. Application interactions are know to cause bizarre things. - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/10 on WinXP Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: My Public Keys - http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html iEYEARECAAYFAj7nw+MACgkQV8nrYCsHF+LDkQCeObWkP9VJYfP07kySFhxCH3aX Uf4AoOKhpRF4pG3puHyiplysVDGL/HgM =VEjU -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Weird TB! crash problem
Since you're running Win2K you can look at the event viewer and see just what the error may be. That should give you some more information on why it keeps crashing on you and sometime (but not always) it will give you a solution. If you want to post the event log I'll look at it and see if I can see anything that may be happening. From: Anna [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/06/10 Tue PM 04:59:31 EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Weird TB! crash problem Hi, everyone, I'm told that I fouled up my initial post by not getting it to the right spot, so I'll try again. Nothing like being an ignorant newbie, except being a stupid ignorant newbie! I installed TB! and got it up and going over the weekend (June 7-8) with aid by Jeanny House, yet of this list. Then suddenly, for no reason that I can see or find in FAQs or archives, it's started closing itself. I boot it up, regardless of how long it's been since the last boot-up, and get a message: Tasks are still active. Would you like to exit when they are finished? Regardless of whether I answer Y or N, it shuts itself down within 10 seconds. This has happened up to five consecutive times before it finally stays open. I seldom have the patience to get that far. The *only* time this doesn't happen is on initial computer start-up in the a.m. I'm on W2K Pro. I have it set to download my webmail from Fastmail.fm via IMAP (which I don't understand, either, but never mind that) and send mail through my ISP. I don't have anything fancy going on, no macros or anything (I can only handle those in Word). The Task Manager doesn't have anything interesting to say about it; when the app shuts itself down, the T.M. says it's shut down, so I don't know what tasks the silly thing thinks it's running. I assume that there's a setting or something somewhere that's wrong, but I've no idea what it might be and haven't been able to find any hints. I need an email client that's fast, flexible, and *reliable*, and at present, TB! isn't performing. Can anyone help? TIA, Anna mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - A really good quote ought to go here. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Weird TB! crash problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Anna, @10-Jun-2003, 15:59-0500 (21:59 UK time) Anna [A] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:: A ... suddenly, for no reason that I can see or find in FAQs or A archives, it's started closing itself. A I boot it up, ... and get a message: Tasks are still active. A Would you like to exit when they are finished? ... A The *only* time this doesn't happen is on initial computer A start-up in the a.m. Do you have a TB shortcut in the Startup group? Where is the shortcut you use to start TB at other times? A I assume that there's a setting No such setting in TB... A or something somewhere that's wrong, Here's my guess. You have TB configured to collect mail at startup in account details. The Startup group shortcut is good and works fine. The other shortcut you have erroneously includes a /EXIT command line parameter. The collect mail at startup task kicks in before the /EXIT is obeyed and stalls the requested exit with the Tasks are active message you see. That's all I can think of. Edit the shortcut. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/10 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt build 09 beta 3 iQA/AwUBPuZnlznkJKuSnc2gEQKU6QCfaVBpwNe/yb3bfhhOGU6pv514kD0AniiC dZExXC3BNuiogKiomYQtOtZi =D5Dq -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
