Re[2]: All the meail in my inbox has disappeared!
Hi Roelof! The messages that came back, after rebuilding the .tbi file were only those that I had expected; no perviously filtered or deleted emails showed up. And, I'm pretty sure that all the mail disappeared immediately after an Access Violation error, and this was not the result of my somehow deleting the messages. I get Access Violation errors a few times each day. I'd be interested to know if others are still getting these as well. I do compress all folders, from time to time. I've also not seen any significant delay on larger folders, but this is a pretty fast machine, so that may be why. And, you are right - I should archive older messages. :) -- Cheers! Michael David mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Monday, May 13, 2002, 12:17:08 PM, you wrote: > Since all of your messages that were deleted (or filtered to other > folders) should have become visible too, you should delete them again > and select from the menu: Folder - Compress all folders. > That diminishes the size of your inbox and prevent the problem from > occurring again. > Might your inbox still be excessively big, I'd suggest that you start > archiving the messages into different folders and afterwards compress > your inbox again. I don't know what's the actual limit for the folder > contents in TB, but I have found for myself that large folders take > lot more time to be opened than smaller ones. I use 5000 msg's (or 20 > MB, whatever comes first) as a useful limit. Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: All the meail in my inbox has disappeared!
Hi Roelof! Thanks - That did it! Thanks to all that helped. I do appreciate it! :) -- Cheers! Michael David mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sunday, May 12, 2002, 2:00:18 AM, you wrote: > Hello Michael, > On Sat, 11 May 2002 17:11:41 -0400GMT (11-5-02, 23:11 +0200GMT, where > I live), you wrote: MD>> All my email in my inbox has disappeared. The messages.tbb (about 1 MD>> GB), and messages.tbi (about 40MB) are still in the Close TB > Move the messages.tbi to a temporary folder. > Start TB > When you'll enter the inbox, TB will notice the missing .tbi and will > recreate it. That would mean that all your deleted messages will > return, since the info of them being deleted is gone, but the > non-deleted should be accessible too. Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: All the meail in my inbox has disappeared!
Hi Allie! 50K or so - lots of attachemnts. My total batmail folder is about 8GB. (I have several accounts) -- Cheers! Michael David mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sunday, May 12, 2002, 9:09:15 AM, you wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > Michael [M] wrote: > ... > I didn't really have anything to add but then I reread your original > post and saw this: M>> ... The messages.tbb (about 1 GB), and messages.tbi (about 40MB) M>> are still in the \\Inbox folder, the unread M>> and total messages numbers look correct. The messages just aren't M>> showing up. > Wow! An impressive inbox .tbb file size. Anyone else packing a > message base of that size? > How many messages did you have in that folder? > How much RAM do you have on your system. Could this be a resource > issue that we're dealing with here and you've hit a ceiling of sorts > so the messages will not display? > Do you normally compress your inbox folder/s? > - -- > -=Allie C Martin=- > List Moderator | TB! v1.60k | Windows XP Pro > PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 > _ > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > iD8DBQE83ml8V8nrYCsHF+IRArN2AKDMii0BRzMCCXdKbxMhpZjhajRQYwCfYxX6 > atpEsqUKAmGcjee8PMRJq1w= > =7epK > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > Current Ver: 1.60i > FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com > Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com > Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Re[2]: All the meail in my inbox has disappeared!
On Sun, 12 May 2002 12:38:58 -0500 Spike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Average attachment size per message (list postings) in these mailboxes > is 350K. All are being compressed. In V1.53d (Win98SE), it took up > to 40 minutes to compress, now in 1.60h it took about 2.5 minutes > (Win98SE)! A big improvement on that aspect. I also noticed a further > improvement upon installing Win2K, now down to 1.25 minutes to > compress as well. The file saving windows also are enormously zippier > in Win2K. ;-) I'd have thought after the first compression, subsequent compressions would be quicker because it couldn't really compress the sections it has already compressed... But that would be what I think... I could br wrong ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) The Versatile Group Tel: 972 991 1370 x 205 Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: All the meail in my inbox has disappeared!
Hello Allie C MartinAllie, Sunday, May 12, 2002, 12:07:13 PM, in a galaxy far, far away, Allie wrote: Allie C Martin> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Allie C Martin> Hash: SHA1 Allie C Martin> Spike [S] wrote: Allie C Martin> ... S>> My TB Mail folder is presently 6.4GB with no degradation of S>> performance, other than a long folder compress time on shutdown! Allie C Martin> Yes, but do you have a single mail folder containing 1GB of mail. If Allie C Martin> it were TB mail, I did some rough calculations based on my base sizes Allie C Martin> and came up with over 300,000 messages for that one base. Either the Allie C Martin> folder has some massive attachments in it or it hasn't been Allie C Martin> compressed. In TB! - two most populous of 11 mailboxes POP #1 = 29,891 messages (mostly major attachments) POP #9 = 14,300 messages (mostly major attachments) Messages in Netscape mail to be imported = 78,998 (about 70% major attachments). Average attachment size per message (list postings) in these mailboxes is 350K. All are being compressed. In V1.53d (Win98SE), it took up to 40 minutes to compress, now in 1.60h it took about 2.5 minutes (Win98SE)! A big improvement on that aspect. I also noticed a further improvement upon installing Win2K, now down to 1.25 minutes to compress as well. The file saving windows also are enormously zippier in Win2K. ;-) I don't hear no stinkin' beeps, but then, I turn down the sound on my system! :-p Usually beeps come with !! in the account logs. As long as I get all my messages without errors, I could care less about beeps! Allie C Martin> - -- Allie C Martin> -=Allie C Martin=- Allie C Martin> List Moderator | TB! v1.60k | Windows XP Pro -- Warmest tropical wishes, Spike -- Get a PERMANENT 100MB capacity mailbox for ONLY $29.95/year. No more lost mail due to mailbox capacity restrictions. Access by POP3 or Webmail! Earn a FREE mailbox with their referral program. (HINT - You get $11.00 towards your mailbox for each referral who signs up!) Apply NOW at http://1110.runbox.com -- Tired of getting every virus that comes along? Get The Bat! Virtually immune to virus attack. Does not use the Windows Address Book! http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/index.html -- Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: All the meail in my inbox has disappeared!
There's another way to get these accidentally disappeared messages back - I've had this happen to me, too. Select the folder they disappeared from (in this case your inbox), then from the Folder menu select Browse deleted messages and make sure that Message list is checked in the View menu. Then pick and choose among the messages you want to save. -Mark Wieder Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: All the meail in my inbox has disappeared!
Hello Allie, Sunday, May 12, 2002, 8:09:15 AM, in a galaxy far, far away, Allie wrote: Allie C Martin> Michael [M] wrote: ... I didn't really have Allie C Martin> anything to add but then I reread your original Allie C Martin> post and saw this: M>> ... The messages.tbb (about 1 GB), and messages.tbi (about 40MB) M>> are still in the \\Inbox folder, the unread M>> and total messages numbers look correct. The messages just aren't M>> showing up. Allie C Martin> Wow! An impressive inbox .tbb file size. Anyone else packing a Allie C Martin> message base of that size? Allie C Martin> How many messages did you have in that folder? Allie C Martin> How much RAM do you have on your system. Could this be a resource Allie C Martin> issue that we're dealing with here and you've hit a ceiling of sorts Allie C Martin> so the messages will not display? Allie C Martin> Do you normally compress your inbox folder/s? My TB Mail folder is presently 6.4GB with no degradation of performance, other than a long folder compress time on shutdown! I have about 9GB of prior mail from Netscape I have not imported yet, however. I am an archivist for 10 Yahoo mailing lists which have extensive attachments. I keep EVERY email message I have ever sent or received (with the exception of flagrant SPAM!) so that is about 7 years worth of mail. Thank God for ADSL connections! ;-) -- Warmest tropical wishes, Spike -- Get a PERMANENT 100MB capacity mailbox for ONLY $29.95/year. No more lost mail due to mailbox capacity restrictions. Access by POP3 or Webmail! Earn a FREE mailbox with their referral program. (HINT - You get $11.00 towards your mailbox for each referral who signs up!) Apply NOW at http://1110.runbox.com -- Tired of getting every virus that comes along? Get The Bat! Virtually immune to virus attack. Does not use the Windows Address Book! http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/index.html -- Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: All the meail in my inbox has disappeared!
On Sat, 11 May 2002, Michael David wrote: > Hi Mandara! > > Hmmm - I don't think I deleted them, and those messages are not in the > Trash folder. Is there some way to delete messages that they don't end > up in the trash? If you delete a folder, you have an option to wipe instead of sending to the trash, but you still have the folder, so it wasn't that. > So, are you saying I should move the messages .tbb and messages.tbi > files to a new TB folder, and then compress the new folder? Nearly. Copy the OLD files to a NEW folder. Then run a compress on the OLD folder. Close TB!. Before copying them back, try opening TB! and see if the compress forced a reindex, and they may have reappeared... if not, try copying the OLD files back into the new ones, or create a new folder in TB! and copy them into that... see if they appear then. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: All the meail in my inbox has disappeared!
Hi Mandara!
Hmmm - I don't think I deleted them, and those messages are not in the
Trash folder. Is there some way to delete messages that they don't end
up in the trash?
So, are you saying I should move the messages .tbb and messages.tbi
files to a new TB folder, and then compress the new folder?
--
Cheers!
Michael David
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Saturday, May 11, 2002, 7:34:01 PM, you wrote:
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> On Sat, 11 May 2002, at 18:25:59 -0400 michael wrote:
mmc>> As I said in my original post:
>>>I don;t have a virus scanner currently installed on this computer, and
>>>View->Display is set to "All messages."
> Maybe you accidently deleted all messages from mailbox, but you still
> didn't compress it since you have them in tbb and tbi files. In this
> case, just copy those files in some temp folder, then compress folders
> in Bat and close the program. Then, move again tbb and tbi files in
> the inbox on the disk and start the Bat. Messages should appear then.
> I have no other idea in this moment.
> Mandara
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