Re[2]: Insert [snip] on deleting a chunk

[Marten Gallagher]

On Friday, January 30, 2004 at 11:27:56 AM, you wrote:

Thanks everyone for your help - CTRL-X and manual CRs it is then.

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Re[2]: Insert [snip] on deleting a chunk

[Marten Gallagher]

On Thursday, January 29, 2004 at 11:29:35 PM, you wrote:

> Dear Marten,


[snip]> You are missing something in TB :-). I just did the above 'snips'
> with Alt-X (my preferred keystroke for the job).

> The combination of Quick Template and the Shortcuts editor will let
> you define the 'CR [snip] CR' as a Quick Template called (say)
> 'Snipper' then Alt-F12 to get into the Shortcut editor and assign
> the key combo you want to use to fire it off.`

Brilliant! ...so far...

Can you see above? I defined QT as you said - with two CR after the ]
but when this is inserted the traling CRs are ignored. I even did:

CR
SPACE CR

but the trailing CR SPACE CR is ignored.

But maybe that's the best we can do?

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Re[2]: Insert [snip] on deleting a chunk

[Dan Perez]

Hello dAniel,

Thursday, January 29, 2004, 8:46:45 PM, you wrote:


...  How would that look like? I've tried, but did not manage to get an
dh> extra newline at the end:

dh> .-[ snipper QT ]-
dh> |
dh> | [snip]
dh> | 
dh> | %REM='new line above'
dh> '---

dh> I also tried %- in the last line. Using %CURSOR there will put the
dh> cursor down too many rows..

Hmmm, how about...

.-[ snipper QT ]-
|
| [snip]
|
| %CURSOR
'---



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Re[2]: Insert [snip] on deleting a chunk

[Peter Ouwehand]

Hello Marck D Pearlstone,

on Fri, 30 Jan 2004 02:33:43 + (2004-01-30 03:33:43 in .nl) in the
message with reference 
you [MP] wrote (at least in part):

PO>> Well, the context conditions are in the program, linked to some
PO>> action. The action / 'what to do' can be defined external. Just
PO>> like with templates.

MDP> It's made more complex because of the way TB lets you use the same
MDP> keys to do different things in different places. There are a lot of
MDP> keys used in editing that you may want to use for something else
MDP> somewhere else.

Ok, that's context.
The action to take can be defined somewhere else.


MDP> Where better to define each than in context?

I don't agree. Some action can be defined for some context. But some (oh,
all) actions can also be defined _global_ / _elsewhere_ for some
_preprogrammed_ context (think about new message, simple uh?).


MDP> By letting you define keys "in situ" - what you want where you need
MDP> it - it takes a level of complexity away from the act of defining
MDP> the keys.

Maybe _just maybe_ for the first definition.
But not for distributing amoungst mulitple clients.


MDP> Anyway - we may have to agree to disagree on this one.

Guess.

I don't like to update 15 copies (hey, TB sells business licences) by
going over to 15 PC's to install some <^&(*!#^> QT.
I can administer 'new msg' / 'reply' / etc templates easily, not
visiting all PC's.

So, help the admin:
- support central config
- links to central stored QT's
- whatever, so I don't need to move my ass (is that clear enough??)


MDP> The fact remains, you can define keys that work in the editor and
MDP> do pretty complex stuff.

Agreed on that.


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Re[2]: Insert [snip] on deleting a chunk

[Peter Ouwehand]

Hello Marck D Pearlstone,


on Fri, 30 Jan 2004 01:59:51 + (2004-01-30 02:59:51 in .nl) in the
message with reference 
you [MP] wrote (at least in part):

MDP> Dear Peter,

MDP> @30-Jan-2004, 02:56 +0100 (30-Jan 01:56 UK time) Peter Ouwehand [PO]
MDP> in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck:

MDP>>> Sort of ... but you do have to be in the place you want the key to
MDP>>> be active to be able to define it. Makes a kind of sense.

PO>> Not really if you want to install the client on more than one PC and
PO>> first need to wait for some msg to reply to before you can configure
PO>> something

PO>> Think about Admin support. It should be available at all times!

MDP> It is. It's the editor that must be open, not just a "reply". Just
MDP> start a new message.

Uhm, the question was about deleting lines in some reply.
What's to delete from a new msg? I wonder.


MDP> Defined keys have to have a context.

Ok, I can agree on that.


MDP> It's too complication if you have a central location to define them
MDP> and then have to specify the context besides that.

Well, the context conditions are in the program, linked to some action.
The action / 'what to do' can be defined external.
Just like with templates.


MDP> IMHO, the way it is is 100% right.

You can guess my opinion on that one.



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Re[2]: Insert [snip] on deleting a chunk

[Peter Ouwehand]

Hello Marck D Pearlstone,

on Fri, 30 Jan 2004 01:42:07 + (2004-01-30 02:42:07 in .nl) in the
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you [MP] wrote (at least in part):

DP>>> You can only access it by going into a message reply window and
DP>>> then press Alt+F12 and then navigate there through "Main Menu"
DP>>> -> "Utilities" -> "Insert Quick Template"

RO>> Sheesh! That's an odd way to hide something.

MDP> Sort of ... but you do have to be in the place you want the key to
MDP> be active to be able to define it. Makes a kind of sense.

Not really if you want to install the client on more than one PC and
first need to wait for some msg to reply to before you can configure
something

Think about Admin support. It should be available at all times!


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Re[2]: Insert [snip] on deleting a chunk

[Dan Perez]

Hello Roelof,

Thursday, January 29, 2004, 3:57:24 PM, you wrote:


RO> Am I using the wrong version or is it that that I'm blind to overlook
RO> a place in the Shortcut editor where you can assign a QT to a hotkey?

... 
"Utilities" -> "Insert Quick Template"

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