Re[2]: Keyboard shortcuts (was: Odd behavioural complaints? [was: Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em])
Hello Ming-Li, On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 06:46:53 -0700 GMT your local time, which was Thursday, September 21, 2000, 14:46:53 (GMT+0100) (BST) my local time, Ming-Li wrote: ML Q: why can't TB resort my folders automatically? why can't I ML redefine shortcuts? why can't I re-arrange my toolbar buttons? ML A: blah, blah, blah... (detailed answers and courteous through out) As a Delphi programmer (ver 45) I'm almost definitely sure that customizable toolbars (known as coolbars) were not available in version 2. I think that explains that. ML Q: why can't I use proportional fonts? why can't I send html mail? ML A: what a stupid request, you're unfit to be a parent (uh, to use ML email, I mean), go back to LookOut... blah, blah, blah. I think that's a perfectly valid response actually. Proportional fonts are the curse of the modern GUI. HTML mail is great for artists, people in advertising and other non-TB! users. We don't need it TB! users are sufficiently advanced that even our drunken ramblings are sophisticated enough so that they don't need touching up with fancy fonts and images. Even if some of us write very long sentences and can't work out where that comma should have gone. g -- Jamie Dainton On Thursday, September 21, 2000 at 15:22:50 The Bat! 1.46 Beta/5 Windows 98 4.10 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=sendKey Beta testers who lie! Next time on Geraldo! -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Keyboard shortcuts (was: Odd behavioural complaints? [was: Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em])
Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Tuesday, September 19, 2000, Thomas Fernandez wrote to Avenarius on TBUDL about Keyboard shortcuts (was: Odd behavioural complaints? [was: Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em]): TF Just for your info, I use the toolbar buttons all the time. I do not TF ever use keyboard shortcuts, with one exception: ALT-F2 when I'm on TF the way from the TV to the bathroom. ;-) You waste your time positioning mouse over buttons, you waste your screen space for those buttons. Of course, it's your time and your screen. If you are not working with graphics it is usually much more quicker to work with hotkeys rather with the mouse. -- Best regards, Oleg Zalyalov. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! version 1.46c under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Keyboard shortcuts (was: Odd behavioural complaints? [was: Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em])
Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Wednesday, September 20, 2000, Ming-Li wrote to Oleg Zalyalov on TBUDL about Keyboard shortcuts (was: Odd behavioural complaints? [was: Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em]): ML I consider myself a keyboard person, and enjoy many of the keyboard ML shortcuts, if available. But I like mouse, too. I read email in my ML leisure time. With a cup of tea in one hand, leaning back ML comfortably in my chair, feet on desk or another chair even, So do I. ML mouse is more convenient. For you. I use keyboard. ML Then there's the problem of having to remember the shortcuts. I can ML remember only so many of them, even for a program I use very often ML like TB. It wastes even more time if I have to look them up in a ML table, and it waste more (physical) desktop estate to have a (hard) ML copy of TB's shortcut lists at the side. Yes. But. You can start learning them step-by-step. When you take your look away from monitor for relaxing (you have to do it for the sake of your eyes) look through the list of shortcuts and choose the one you will benefit the most from learning. And start using it. Don't try to use next until your hand completely learn it. You will gain great power rather quickly. ML The bottom line is: keyboard may be more efficient (in general), but ML toolbar, along with many other UI enhancements, is more convenient ML and easier to learn (also in general). Every user has his/her ML preferences and habits. As Thomas said, I like having the choices. Power user / common user. Keyboard is more efficient for power user, toolbar is more convenient for common user. From time to time, I find new users get beaten up on this list for ML requesting features that TB lacks (proportional fonts, sending html ML mail, ¡K etc.). While I understand the logic behind these designs, ML and agree with many of them, I fail to see why users can't have ML their choices. They can have their choices -- they can choose OE or everything else. ML It's true it takes time to implement those features, It's take not only time, it will take the power and efficiency of TB! as a MUA. -- Best regards, Oleg Zalyalov. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! version 1.46c under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
