Re[2]: Marking messages as Read when replied.

2002-12-01 Thread Daniel Hirning
In  reply to Miguel's message 'Marking messages as Read when replied.'
on Sun, 1 Dec 2002 17:45:02 +0100 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

MAU> Hmmm,  you  got  me  in  spending  part  of a rainy a dark Sunday
MAU> afternoon  looking  at PowerPro.

i do apologise for getting you hooked :)

MAU> And  I  also  got  a  macro (combined with a QT to "extract" MID)
MAU> working  95%.

I  was  about  to  ask WTF is a MID, until i looked at the headers and
found 'Message-ID', it all become abundantly clear from that :-)

How  are  you using the QT to extract the MID?, i mean how does the QT
run?

MAU> And  I  say  95%  because  I  found  no reliable way of selecting
MAU> Kludges  in  the  set  added  to  Alternatives.  Works  when I am
MAU> recording  the macro, but not when I run it. Location will always
MAU> get Sender.

Yes, I was having this exact same problem... - this is where the trial
and error came into it...

When you tab from the 'String' field, for some god-unknown reason, the
next  tab  stop  is  the  screensaver active drop down on the advanced
tab?! What the hell is with that?!

Anyway,  so  i initially was tabbing twice, and than {left}ing back...
but  than i found I could alt{right} which only sometimes worked... it
turns  out,  that  you can't use {alt}{right} but you must use the alt
character, %{right}

anyway, this is what I use to add the clipboard contents to a new set

%a^v%{right}%{down}{down}{down}{down}{down}{down}{enter}%c

which  adds  a  net  set,  pastes  the  clipboard, changes location to
kludges  and  closes the sorting office dialog... hope this gets it to
100% :)

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Re[2]: Marking messages as Read when replied.

2002-12-01 Thread Daniel Hirning
In  reply to Miguel's message 'Marking messages as Read when replied.'
on Sun, 1 Dec 2002 11:45:57 +0100 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

>> Hmm,  thanks,  I'm just downloading Power Pro now, and I think I'll
>> give  your  macro  idea  a go, if that works, it would be ideal - i
>> think :)
>> 
>> I'll let you know how Power Pro handles it...

MAU> Yes, please do. Thanks.

Hmm,  it  turns  out  that PowerPro is even more intimidating when you
first install it than The Bat is... - OMG it seemed like the confusion
would never end...

But once i got past the initial setup wizard (which was crap IMO) - it
all made sense...

So yes, after initial testing, I got a macro to do what i wanted...

The  ignore  thread  filter is my third in my incoming filter list, it
adds  what  is  currently  selected  to  the  a  new  alternative set,
searching in kludges.

Under the Key/Mouse tab in PowerPro

Blank for all windows: The Bat!, View Folder*

Enter command: *Keys

Enter keys to send: ^c{ctrl}{shift}s

Enter more commands with button:

*Wait active "Sorting Office*"
*Keys 
{right}{down}{down}{down}{tab}{right}%a^v{alt}{right}{alt}{right}{left}{left}{left}{left}{alt}{down}{alt}{down}{down}{down}{down}{down}{enter}{alt}c


The  amount of {down} in the last *Keys line is in direct relationship
to  the  number  filter  it  is,  in my case, the 3rd... if that makes
sense...

looks  bloody confusing i know, but after trial and error this is what
i came up with :)

And it works! - so thanks for the tip...

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Re[2]: Marking messages as Read when replied.

2002-11-30 Thread Daniel Hirning
In  reply to Miguel's message 'Marking messages as Read when replied.'
on Sat, 30 Nov 2002 20:58:17 +0100 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

MAU> Your  message has just been assigned to my "Very Important! Don't
MAU> forget!" colour group ;-)

HA! Your filters clearly work perfectly :)

MAU> Can I ask for another beer? ;-)

Sure,  NP, I'll buy you a nights worth of alcoholic drinking... if you
can get yourself down under that is :)

MAU> Anyway,  I'll  explain.  But first I will say that, although once
MAU> set  up it works quite well, it is not that easy or convenient to
MAU> use. You will see why.

Hmm, thanks, I'm just downloading Power Pro now, and I think I'll give
your macro idea a go, if that works, it would be ideal - i think :)

I'll let you know how Power Pro handles it...

Cheers

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Re[2]: Marking messages as Read when replied.

2002-11-30 Thread Mean Drake
So that makes it simple right...Assign a Keyboard shortcut to
Flags>replied and Press that shortcut and then Ctrl-R to reply.
Message gets replied to and gets marked as replied to at the
same time.

Saturday, November 30, 2002, 11:47:11 PM, you wrote:

TF> Hello Mean,

TF> On Sat, 30 Nov 2002 23:39:57 +0530 GMT (01/12/02, 01:09 +0700 GMT),
TF> Mean Drake wrote:

>> In general how does one go about setting keyboard shortcuts in The
>> Bat!?

TF> View / Edit shortucts.

TF> Don't ask why it is under the View menu...




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Re[2]: Marking messages as Read when replied.

2002-11-30 Thread Mean Drake
the Bat! does have an option to mark messages as replied. Right click
the message in the message list window and go to>Flags>replied

Surprisingly it does not do it automaticall on clicking reply.

Can one setup keyboard shortcuts to do this.

In general how does one go about setting keyboard shortcuts in The
Bat!?
MD.


Saturday, November 30, 2002, 4:34:00 PM, you wrote:

MDP> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
MDP> Hash: SHA1

MDP> Hi Daniel,

MDP> @30-Nov-2002, 21:10 +1100 (10:10 UK time) Daniel Hirning [DH] in
MDP> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

DH>> As a result, any message I go to reply to, is marked as unread -
DH>> because I have left it that way to signal a follow-up is
DH>> required.

MDP> You asked in another branch of this thread for alternate
MDP> suggestions. Here's what I do: if a message needs a follow up, I hit
MDP> reply and immediately park it. My outbox contains several parked
MDP> messages, which are the replies I have yet to write. That way I
MDP> never overlook anything.

MDP> I don't know if that way of doing it might help you.

MDP> - --
MDP> Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator
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Re[2]: Marking messages as Read when replied.

2002-11-30 Thread Daniel Hirning
In  reply  to David's message 'Marking messages as Read when replied.'
on Sat, 30 Nov 2002 07:20:40 -0600 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

DG> I'd  very much like to read this message, but I wasn't on the list
DG> at  that time, and the archive at  doesn't go back that far.
DG> Can you send me a copy or re-post?

I  found  it  in  the  archive  by  searching  for 'Displaying "new"',
regardless, the specific post can be found here:

http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg49459.html

the start of the thread here:

http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg49389.html

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Re[2]: Marking messages as Read when replied.

2002-11-30 Thread Daniel Hirning
In  reply to Miguel's message 'Marking messages as Read when replied.'
on Sat, 30 Nov 2002 13:05:52 +0100 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

MAU> The  way  I  do  it may perhaps seem a little "awkward" to others
MAU> but,  if  you  care  to  read  a message I posted on October 25th
MAU> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> withSubject:
MAU> "Displaying  "new" status in account tree pane and folder summary
MAU> pane", you may get some ideas.

I think I owe you a beer as well... :)

Yes,  I  can  see  how this method could be setup quite effective, and
taking this on board and Marck's suggestion, I think I will be able to
set  this  up  rather  nicely  into  a  system that will even work for
someone like me... ;-)

Cheers!

One question however,

MAU>   My first two filters look for Ignored threads (messages from mail
MAU>   list that 'belong' to threads I'm not interested in) and SPAM.

Perhaps  I have misunderstood this paragraph, but, how do your filters
look  for threads you wish to ignore? This could be highly valuable if
this does what I imagine it does. Can you mark a thread as irrelevant,
and  than  have  all  those  messages  automatically filed as Read for
example?... or...?

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Re[2]: Marking messages as Read when replied.

2002-11-30 Thread Daniel Hirning
In  reply  to Marck's message 'Marking messages as Read when replied.'
on Sat, 30 Nov 2002 11:04:00 + from [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

MDP> You  asked  in  another  branch  of  this  thread  for  alternate
MDP> suggestions.  Here's what I do: if a message needs a follow up, I
MDP> hit  reply  and  immediately  park it.

oh, I quite like this idea, I'll definitely be experimenting with this
to see if it will help get things a little more organised...

Cheers!

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Re[2]: Marking messages as Read when replied.

2002-11-30 Thread Daniel Hirning
In  reply  to Dierk's message 'Marking messages as Read when replied.'
on Sat, 30 Nov 2002 12:06:56 +0100 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

DH> Flagging  or Colour Groups. You can search for flagged or coloured
DH> messages.

I  have  tried  these ways, but they don't show up in the folder tree,
and hence, I end up missing them... :)

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Re[2]: Marking messages as Read when replied.

2002-11-30 Thread Daniel Hirning
In  reply  to Dierk's message 'Marking messages as Read when replied.'
on Sat, 30 Nov 2002 11:26:25 +0100 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

DH> Sorry, but how can you reply to a message not being read?

as  mentioned in the other message, its read, just not marked as such.
Its  a  bizarre  little  setup  I  use I know, but it works for me, so
unless  someone  can think of a better solution, its what I would like
to   stick   to...  -  I  just  want  to  mark  the  message  as  read
automatically, so that I don't forget to do that as well :)

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Re[2]: Marking messages as Read when replied.

2002-11-30 Thread Daniel Hirning
In  reply to Thomas's message 'Marking messages as Read when replied.'
on Sat, 30 Nov 2002 16:53:09 +0700 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

TF> You  reply  to  a  mail  before  you  read  it? In my case, I read
TF> messages,  and  then  reply  (or  not).  So  I have never had your
TF> requirement. What situation would trigger such a user behaviour?

Correct.

Over  the  years, I have become notorious for taking forever to reply,
or to not reply at all. As a result, I have developed a little system,
in which I must manually mark every message as read, after I have read
it,  UNLESS,  it requires follow up, in which case, it remains unread.
(This  isn't  as  big a deal as it sounds, I'm already using Ctrl-] to
get to the next unread message, so it just requires hitting 'M' before
']')

As  a  result,  any  message  I  go to reply to, is marked as unread -
because I have left it that way to signal a follow-up is required.

I'm  just  finding  that  I  am going to messages marked as unread, to
discover that I have indeed replied to them, but have left them in the
unread  state, hence why i would like to make use of a filter to do it
for me once the reply has been sent.

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