Re[2]: New HTML engine?

2002-06-12 Thread Mitja Perko

Hello Marck,

Will there be a feature to ignore by default, but load on request by
let say clicking on the image while holding shift or something like
that?

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Best regards,
  Mitja Perko

 Sorry to confuse. There will be a global ignore all option (don't
 even *think* about downloading) but if you want to see them at all,
 you'll have to manually verify each image.



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Re[2]: New HTML engine?

2002-06-11 Thread Mitja Perko

Hello Marck,

 It will never be there in that form. It's just too dangerous. I
 understand that support for retrieving non-sent images will be added
 at some point *BUT* it will only get one image at a time and prompt
 for permission for *each* image. This is because not all images *are*
 images.
What is the problem with that? If they are not images you display
nothing.

You detect by extension which image it should be, try to display it if
you can, otherwise leave it alone.

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Re[2]: New HTML engine?

2002-06-11 Thread Mitja Perko

Hello Jernej,

 That's not the problem. The problem is, that these images can be used
 for tracking - spammer can embed such image in text (with unique ID),
 and if the server gets the request for that image ID, it can confirm
 that the message was read - that the e-mail address exists. There are
 also other uses - eg. YahooGroups uses such images for advertizing,
 and every time you open the message with such inline image you get
 different AD...

Thank you for clarification. I understand the problem now.

Maybe one could have an icon to click and the images would get loaded.
Or even filter enabling/disabling loading. I currently miss images,
because I am subscribed to a newsletter that contains images. Now I
usually go online when I receive the message to read it because of that.

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  Mitja Perko



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Re[2]: New HTML engine?

2002-06-11 Thread Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats]

Hi Jonathan,

JA Then how would you explain viruses spreading via the .jpg and .gif
JA formats?  They have 'code' in the headers that the viewer (in most
JA cases IE) reads and 'executes'... which causes infection.

I've never heard of that and I don't think it's true; these formats
have no executable code inside, and browsers make no attempt to
execute them. However, what does exist is filenames with a double
extension, such as naked.gif.exe or bigones.jpg.scr. Those
filenames display as naked.gif and bigones.jpg in most programs, but
are in fact executable, and some viruses make use of this.

Regards,

-Daan-



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Re[2]: New HTML engine?

2002-06-11 Thread Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats]


Hi Peter,

PP If you insist in the images you're free of open the HTML-page in
PP your browser (which is BTW designed to display HTML pages)

I sympathize with your plight of text-only e-mail, and I'd like to add
that the true netpurist will only use a plain, fixed-width font.

However, the Net has long been handed over to the savages, and HTML
has become sort of an e-mail standard. So, if an HTML attachment is
delivered with local images and all, I think TB should show them.
Animated GIFs, too! :-) Remote images and other embedded objects should
be optional - when they're turned off, perhaps TB could display some
frivolous local pictures in their place.

  ZentrumDerArbeit.org

Between your participation in this list, and (I'm sure) watching the
Mannschaft, I have to wonder if you're still getting any Arbeit done!
:-)

Mit freundlichem Gruss,

-Daan-



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Re[2]: New HTML engine?

2002-06-11 Thread Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats]


Hi Marck,

MDP erm... which it already does. I received such a mail only 30 minutes
MDP ago. It was rendered perfectly.

Oops! Now I see that I'd simply never had a HTML-message with the
images attached. They all had links to remote images. Hence all the
little red crosses! :) I've just sent myself a HTML message and it
works fine indeed, thanks..

  when they're turned off, perhaps TB could display some frivolous
  local pictures in their place.

  ... which it already does.

Well, I said frivolous! ;-) Seriously, instead of those little red
crosses, I'd much rather see some random pictures -eg. fractals- of
the right size (if this size was specified in the html), so that the
formatting is more similar to what was intended by the sender.

Best,

-Daan-



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Re[2]: New HTML engine?

2002-06-11 Thread Kurgan



JA Guess I need to give an example... Take... erm... SubSeven. Has a
JA small program that 'encapsulates' files... Run it onto a .jpg file it
JA increases the .jpg file by maybe 300kb... file extension is *still*
JA .jpg (no hidden extensions, or anything like that), and the file is
JA now executable, and causes infection with the subseven trojan.

   Well, however it all works, or doesn't as the case may be, I can at
   least say this. I've gotten tons of trojans and viruses sent to me
   via email, and not a single one infected my system. I don't think
   they could have really gotten past TB with it made the way it is,
   but it never even got that far. Between Norton and ZAP, they both
   monitor and nail anything that even comes close to my system. I
   don't even have to think about it, they just automatically
   quarantine the stuff. I think TB could handle more features without
   becoming too much of a security risk. Hell, I also keep a copy of,
   God help me for admitting this, Incredimail on my system! Yeah, In
   know, it's wide open for attack by its nature, but still nothing
   gets through. I even get confused when people on mailing lists
   start talking about 'that darned virus' because I'd never noticed
   anything had happened. Oh, and I use Incredimail for the fun stuff
   it can do, in case you were wondering about my mental health. :)
   Hey, it *does* have some pretty nifty features.


Best regards,

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Re[2]: New HTML engine?

2002-06-10 Thread syv

On Monday, June 10, 2002, Allie C Martin wrote:

New HTML engine?


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