Re[3]: BAT's word wrapping abilities...

2001-12-29 Thread syv

On Saturday, December 29, 2001 , Joe Finocchiaro wrote the
following in regards to: [BAT's word wrapping abilities...]

 

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JF> Saturday, December 29, 2001, 11:58:24 AM, you wrote:

JF> [...]
>> RITLabs told us that version 2 will have a new editor and perhaps make
>> use of external editors.
JF> [...]

JF> And the very early voting returns are:

JF> For: 1

JF> Against: 0

Against: 1

We want blood! It's always funny to watch FANATICS talk past
each others.


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Re[3]: BAT's word wrapping abilities...

2001-12-29 Thread Sebastian


RP> Hello Dierk,

>> this is the third time you fling something in the face of other
>> users that is not to be seen in such a place.

RP> Sorry, I though this was a mailing list where people were free to
RP> discuss the pros and cons of a particular piece of software.

RP> Rémi Pach


I think everyone should have the right for their opinion, and I thank
Rémi for showing me that there is not just me who has some problems
with the BAT.

This thread may be closed now, but maybe we can all be happy with
version 2 - whenever it is done... .

Thank you all for your replies and your help,

Sebastian. :)


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Re[3]: BAT's word wrapping abilities...

2001-12-29 Thread Alastair Scott

On 29 December 2001 at 4:22 pm John wrote:

> I can't help wondering if the programmers are indulging the nerd,
> sorry, expert, users at the expense of the rest of us in this
> 'feature'. Agent, for example, seems to do this simple task without
> the need for weird key combinations every time you paste stuff in or
> go back and add to or delete an existing bit of text. It's the one
> thing that stops me recommending The Bat to friends who are accustomed
> to the ease of use of more run of the mill mail programs.

> My suggestion would be a configurable option so that the editor can
> behave either way - this would satisfy both camps. The auto-wrap
> feature as it stands is just not good enough, imho.

Agreed - it has a large number of options, but life is just too
short to explore them all and their interactions with one another. I
have editor settings I'm happy with, but I couldn't explain how I got
to those settings (probably trial and error in the past).

Like many facilities in TB! "beginner" and "expert" approaches would
be useful although hard work to implement; the program is phenomenally
powerful but all of that power is (potentially) exposed no matter who
the user is. 

Alastair



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Re[3]: BAT's word wrapping abilities...

2001-12-29 Thread Sebastian


JR> I can't help wondering if the programmers are indulging the nerd,
JR> sorry, expert, users at the expense of the rest of us in this
JR> 'feature'. Agent, for example, seems to do this simple task without
JR> the need for weird key combinations every time you paste stuff in or
JR> go back and add to or delete an existing bit of text. It's the one
JR> thing that stops me recommending The Bat to friends who are accustomed
JR> to the ease of use of more run of the mill mail programs.

JR> My suggestion would be a configurable option so that the editor can
JR> behave either way - this would satisfy both camps. The auto-wrap
JR> feature as it stands is just not good enough, imho.

JR> John Rainer


Wow, I thought everyone is all in love with the way BAT handles
things. I must say that I am not happy with the way many things are
handled. I am a BAT fan, which comes from the fact that Outlook sucks
really badly, and that I just like the fact that this tool is so
incredibly fast and loaded with functionality.

BUT: I think there is a point when things start to be a little bad,
for example this wrapping thing.

Next thing I really cannot stand is the fact that the programmers
spell Microsoft with a Dollar sign - I know, this shouldn't be a
problem, but come on: almost EVERYONE here uses Windows, and XP really
is an excellent OS - so much for that.

Problem is further, that they REFUSE to give the option of using
internet explorer's dll to show HTML content - are we back in stone
age? I just want the OPTION, I don't want it to be a preset, just an
OPTION - like John said, both camps can be satisfied if the
programmers wouldn't be so concentrated on the "technical camp".

I do not want to offend anyone by this, please don't feel like I don't
like BAT, I love it, it's just that there are certain things I totally
disagree with - hope everyone understands this.

Sebastian.


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