Re: (Succesful) Removing Microsoft Outlook from the system

2002-01-25 Thread Chema Berian

Hello Listers, 

On Sun, 6 Jan 2002, at 11:48:38 [GMT +0100] Gerard and Januk wrote:

Gerard Now I just need to remove OE from my system.

Januk In  Windows  98  it is fairly easy, I'm not sure if the system
Januk has changed for W2K.

To  remove OE (and Outlook) from NT, 2K and XP, follow instructions in
this link:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q263837

I've tried and works fine.

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Re: Removing Microsoft Outlook from the system

2002-01-06 Thread Gerard de Vries

 
ON Saturday, January 05, 2002, 9:59:49 PM, you wrote:

Peter Hello Gerard,

Peter On 5 Jan 2002 at 21:38:39 you wrote (at least in part):

 
GdV  I know al this, I was just trying to explain that it is weird that 2
GdV  programs are fighting over a file type that's not even present on my
GdV  system. Is this filetype used by TB in any way?

Peter Not that I'm aware of. .msg could be somehow important, as this is the
Peter file type an attachment of content type message/rfc-822 get's
Peter silently 'converted' to, but .eml I've never seen except for messages
Peter exported from OE (what you're not using, you stated).

GdV  BTW if you go to explorer|tools|folder options|file types you can
GdV  delete the association with the EML file type and then enter it again
GdV  and associate this with any program. Without even having a file on your
GdV  system.

Peter Yes ... but that's more steps than creating an empty file with correct
Peter ending, right click it, choose 'Properties' and change 'Opens with:'
Peter *GGG* and I'm one of the lazy fraction, that's why I try to don'ttouch
Peter my mouse if not necessary :-) (wasn't this a parallel thread on this
Peter list: about mice guys and keyboard freaks? *g*)


Hi Peter,

At the risk of overworking your mouse hand, I just started TB and the
association was still with TB. I did what I wrote earlier, deleted the
the association, created EML as a new file type and associated it with
TB.
This doesn't mean that your method doesn't work, I just didn't get a
change to try it.
Thanks for all the help and suggestions.

Now I just need to remove OE from my system.

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Re: Removing Microsoft Outlook from the system

2002-01-06 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Gerard,

On Sunday, January 6, 2002 at 10:53 GMT +0100, a creature mimicking
Gerard de Vries [GDV] wrote:

GDV Now I just need to remove OE from my system.

In Windows 98 it is fairly easy, I'm not sure if the system has
changed for W2K.

Control Panel
  |- Add/Remove Programs
|- Windows Setup
  |- Outlook Express

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Re: Removing Microsoft Outlook from the system

2002-01-06 Thread Gerard de Vries

 
ON Sunday, January 06, 2002, 11:33:02 AM, you wrote:

Januk Hello Gerard,

Januk On Sunday, January 6, 2002 at 10:53 GMT +0100, a creature mimicking
Januk Gerard de Vries [GDV] wrote:

GDV Now I just need to remove OE from my system.

Januk In Windows 98 it is fairly easy, I'm not sure if the system has
Januk changed for W2K.

Januk Control Panel
Januk   |- Add/Remove Programs
Januk |- Windows Setup
Januk   |- Outlook Express

Januk Good luck.

Hi Januk,
   Yes it changed for win2K. Its now:
 |- Add/Remove Programs
|- Windows Setup
|- Sorry nothing here!

 It looks like the removed that option after the courtcase. I will have
 a look at winlite to see if there are any suggestions there.


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Removing Microsoft Outlook from the system

2002-01-05 Thread Gerard de Vries

Hi Bat Users,

 I have a little problem.
 Somehow MS Outlook keeps associating itself with files from type EML.
 I do not use Outlook and I have TB associate itself with EML files each
 time. I guess the best way would be to remove Outlook al together, but
 I cant find it in the add/remove program option.

 Does anyone know what I can do about this behavior, or how to remove
 Outlook al together?

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Re: Removing Microsoft Outlook from the system

2002-01-05 Thread Gnissman

Hello Gerard,

Saturday, January 05, 2002, 11:39:50 AM, you wrote:

GdV  time. I guess the best way would be to remove Outlook al together, but
GdV  I cant find it in the add/remove program option.

Outlook comes as part of MS Office. So start the remove for Office,
select add/remove features (not sure about the english terms for I
am using the german version) and you will be able to just remove Outlook.

Gniss


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Re: Removing Microsoft Outlook from the system

2002-01-05 Thread Alastair Scott

On 5 January 2002 at 10:39 am Gerard wrote:

 Hi Bat Users,

  I have a little problem.
  Somehow MS Outlook keeps associating itself with files from type EML.
  I do not use Outlook and I have TB associate itself with EML files each
  time. I guess the best way would be to remove Outlook al together, but
  I cant find it in the add/remove program option.

  Does anyone know what I can do about this behavior, or how to remove
  Outlook al together?

This is becoming a common problem; if you install a number of media
players (eg Winamp and RealOne) you'll find that each of them load a
little utility at startup to grab hold of their file extensions
before Microsoft Media Player does so. Bizarre but true.

Outlook or Outlook Express?

If Outlook, remove it using the Office installation utility ;)

Outlook Express is entirely different. If you have later versions of
Windows (I have XP here) you can't remove it cleanly; there is nothing
in the Control Panel to do so and it is tied in with Windows so
deleting files may be dangerous. With earlier versions (eg my office
machine, which has Windows 95), it _does_ have a Control Panel
add/remove entry for Outlook Express.

However, this may be of interest:

http://www.98lite.net/

Alastair


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Re: Removing Microsoft Outlook from the system

2002-01-05 Thread Gerard de Vries

 
ON Saturday, January 05, 2002, 11:50:25 AM, you wrote:

Gnissman Hello Gerard,

Gnissman Saturday, January 05, 2002, 11:39:50 AM, you wrote:

GdV  time. I guess the best way would be to remove Outlook al together, but
GdV  I cant find it in the add/remove program option.

Gnissman Outlook comes as part of MS Office. So start the remove for Office,
Gnissman select add/remove features (not sure about the english terms for I
Gnissman am using the german version) and you will be able to just remove Outlook.

Gnissman Gniss

Hi Gniss,

 I am have Outlook express installed with Win2000 on my machine. Sorry I
 wasn't clear about that.
 You are right about Outlook being installed from Office.
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Re: Removing Microsoft Outlook from the system

2002-01-05 Thread David Elliott

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Greetings Gerard

On 05 January 2002 at 11:39:50 +0100 (which was 10:39 where I live) Gerard
de Vries graced us with these comments

GdV  I have a little problem.
GdV  Somehow MS Outlook keeps associating itself with files from type EML.
GdV  I do not use Outlook and I have TB associate itself with EML files each
GdV  time. I guess the best way would be to remove Outlook al together, but
GdV  I cant find it in the add/remove program option.

GdV  Does anyone know what I can do about this behavior, or how to remove
GdV  Outlook al together?

I to have had this problem. In my case my OS is win2K Server and a one of the
services re-registers EML files this every time I start my LapTop.

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Re: Removing Microsoft Outlook from the system

2002-01-05 Thread Roelof Otten

Hello Gerard,

On Sat, 5 Jan 2002 11:39:50 +0100GMT (5-1-02, 11:39 +0100GMT, where I
live), you wrote:

GdV  Somehow MS Outlook keeps associating itself with files from type EML.

Exit TB
Open your browser
Set Outlook Express as the default mail editor
Close your browser
Open TB
TB should start to bugger you about default settings and file
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Re: Removing Microsoft Outlook from the system

2002-01-05 Thread Peter Meyns

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On Sat, 5 Jan 2002 11:39:50 +0100GMT (which was 11:39 +0100GMT where I
live), Gerard de Vries thought about Removing Microsoft Outlook from
the system and wrote:

GdV  Somehow MS Outlook keeps associating itself with files from type EML.
GdV  I do not use Outlook and I have TB associate itself with EML files each
GdV  time. I guess the best way would be to remove Outlook al together, but
GdV  I cant find it in the add/remove program option.

GdV  Does anyone know what I can do about this behavior, or how to remove
GdV  Outlook al together?

Hi Gerard,

I have Outlook Express still installed, but the .eml extension is
associated to TB!. AFAIR, I deleted the key for .eml in the registry
(HKEY CLASSES ROOT). Then I double-clicked an .eml file and was asked
which application to use. But then, I don't know if this works in Win2k,
as I'm still on 98.

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Re: Removing Microsoft Outlook from the system

2002-01-05 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Gerard de Vries,

On Saturday, January 05 2002 at 02:39 AM PDT, you wrote:

  Does anyone know what I can do about this behavior, or how to remove
  Outlook al together?

I realise that you are referring to Outlook Express and not Outlook, and
one thing you can try to remove OE is to remove the Windows Address Book
from your System by Control Panel/Add-Remove/Windows Setup. OE requires
the WAB and without it, Win 98 at least will offer to remove OE as well.


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Re: Removing Microsoft Outlook from the system

2002-01-05 Thread Gerard de Vries

 
ON Saturday, January 05, 2002, 12:54:31 PM, you wrote:

Roelof Hello Gerard,

Roelof On Sat, 5 Jan 2002 11:39:50 +0100GMT (5-1-02, 11:39 +0100GMT, where I
Roelof live), you wrote:

GdV  Somehow MS Outlook keeps associating itself with files from type EML.

Roelof Exit TB
Roelof Open your browser
Roelof Set Outlook Express as the default mail editor
Roelof Close your browser
Roelof Open TB
Roelof TB should start to bugger you about default settings and file
Roelof associations.

Hi Roelof,

Tried that, same result OE keeps taking the EML file, without me using
OE I should add.

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Re: Removing Microsoft Outlook from the system

2002-01-05 Thread Gerard de Vries

 
ON Saturday, January 05, 2002, 1:22:36 PM, you wrote:

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David Greetings Gerard

David On 05 January 2002 at 11:39:50 +0100 (which was 10:39 where I live) Gerard
David de Vries graced us with these comments

GdV  I have a little problem.
GdV  Somehow MS Outlook keeps associating itself with files from type EML.
GdV  I do not use Outlook and I have TB associate itself with EML files each
GdV  time. I guess the best way would be to remove Outlook al together, but
GdV  I cant find it in the add/remove program option.

GdV  Does anyone know what I can do about this behavior, or how to remove
GdV  Outlook al together?

David I to have had this problem. In my case my OS is win2K Server and a one of the
David services re-registers EML files this every time I start my LapTop.


Hi David,

 I use Win2000 Professional and its OE doing the re-registering.

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Re: Removing Microsoft Outlook from the system

2002-01-05 Thread Gerard de Vries

 
ON Saturday, January 05, 2002, 5:42:40 PM, you wrote:

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Peter On Sat, 5 Jan 2002 11:39:50 +0100GMT (which was 11:39 +0100GMT where I
Peter live), Gerard de Vries thought about Removing Microsoft Outlook from
Peter the system and wrote:

GdV  Somehow MS Outlook keeps associating itself with files from type EML.
GdV  I do not use Outlook and I have TB associate itself with EML files each
GdV  time. I guess the best way would be to remove Outlook al together, but
GdV  I cant find it in the add/remove program option.

GdV  Does anyone know what I can do about this behavior, or how to remove
GdV  Outlook al together?

Peter Hi Gerard,

Peter I have Outlook Express still installed, but the .eml extension is
Peter associated to TB!. AFAIR, I deleted the key for .eml in the registry
Peter (HKEY CLASSES ROOT). Then I double-clicked an .eml file and was asked
Peter which application to use. But then, I don't know if this works in Win2k,
Peter as I'm still on 98.

Hi Peter,

 I can't do that because I don't have any EML files on my system.
 I did remove the EML extension. I will see if that helps.


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Re: Removing Microsoft Outlook from the system

2002-01-05 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Gerard,

On 5 Jan 2002 at 21:10:52 you wrote (at least in part):

GdV  I can't do that because I don't have any EML files on my system.

That's quite easy to solve ...
Longer way: export a message from The Bat! and name it ending with
'.eml'
Shorter way: right click on your desktop, choose 'New' / 'Text
Document' and rename it to 'whatever.eml'. You got an '.eml' file :-)
That's all what counts, don't care about this file not beeing a valid
one, Windows will associate it nevertheless on your request (as the
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Re: Removing Microsoft Outlook from the system

2002-01-05 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Gerard,

On 5 Jan 2002 at 21:38:39 you wrote (at least in part):

 
GdV  I know al this, I was just trying to explain that it is weird that 2
GdV  programs are fighting over a file type that's not even present on my
GdV  system. Is this filetype used by TB in any way?

Not that I'm aware of. .msg could be somehow important, as this is the
file type an attachment of content type message/rfc-822 get's
silently 'converted' to, but .eml I've never seen except for messages
exported from OE (what you're not using, you stated).

GdV  BTW if you go to explorer|tools|folder options|file types you can
GdV  delete the association with the EML file type and then enter it again
GdV  and associate this with any program. Without even having a file on your
GdV  system.

Yes ... but that's more steps than creating an empty file with correct
ending, right click it, choose 'Properties' and change 'Opens with:'
*GGG* and I'm one of the lazy fraction, that's why I try to don'ttouch
my mouse if not necessary :-) (wasn't this a parallel thread on this
list: about mice guys and keyboard freaks? *g*)
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Re: Removing Microsoft Outlook from the system

2002-01-05 Thread Sam


 Would going to Options/Preferences/Applications and checking the .eml
 box and maybe clicking on Associate Now change the settings for .eml
 to The Bat?

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 Not that I'm aware of. .msg could be somehow important, as this is the
 file type an attachment of content type message/rfc-822 get's
 silently 'converted' to, but .eml I've never seen except for messages
 exported from OE (what you're not using, you stated).




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