Re[3]: Reply message question
Hello Beat, Wednesday, December 20, 2000, 3:39:10 PM, you wrote: Of course (he said mischievously), you could reverse the quote and comment in non-Bat list messages (by using folder templates), but leave it as it is for messages to the Bat lists. That way, no-one here would know about your wickedness! BS :-)) What a phony guy... ;-) Call it cultural sensitivity :-) -- Best regards, Nickmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Reply message question
Hello TBUDL, I am not sure this is the correct forum but I can't figure out when I hit reply how to put my reply at the top of the message and the message I received at the bottom. Currently my message appears at the bottom. I have looked at the FAQ and I think my question is too elementary to be there and I looked in the help and I think it might have to do with the reply template, but I couldn't see where I edit or view all these macros. thanks. -- Best regards, Daniel mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Reply message question
Hi Daniel I am not sure this is the correct forum but I can't figure out when I Yes, it is. hit reply how to put my reply at the top of the message and the message I received at the bottom. Currently my message appears at the bottom. I have looked at the FAQ and I think my question is too elementary to be there and I looked in the help and I think it might have to do with the reply template, but I couldn't see where I edit or view all these macros. thanks. You're right, this has to do with the reply template which is editable in menu Account/Properties/Templates/Reply. There you'll probably find something like %Cursor. Move this string wherever you want, before or after %Quotes which is the macro to insert the original text quoted. I hopefully may give you another hint: if you're replying, it is a good thing not to quote the whole message, but only these phrases you're commenting or answering. It's also ok, to insert the answers right between some quotes. So short, Beat -- Using The Bat! 1.48d under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- PGP public key available: Send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or get it on keyservers: 0x4E0B0777 (DH/DSS) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Reply message question
Hello Daniel, Wednesday, December 20, 2000, 3:08:06 PM, you wrote: DM I am not sure this is the correct forum but DM I can't figure out when I DM hit reply how to put my reply at the top of DM the message and the DM message I received at the bottom. Currently DM my message appears at the DM bottom. I have looked at the FAQ and I DM think my question is too DM elementary to be there and I looked in the DM help and I think it might DM have to do with the reply template, but I DM couldn't see where I edit or DM view all these macros. thanks. If you look at the reply template, it says: %QUOTES %CURSOR and so it quotes the message first, then places the cursor after the quote. You could simply reverse these 2 and have your comments come before the cursor BUT I believe this is one of those areas in which opinions are divided and strong. Others on the list have more knowledge and stronger views than me, but in summary, some people don't like the comment first. My preferred method (about which I'm not a zealot, nor indeed especially scrupulous in practice) is to place my comments at the end of short messages, and to intersperse comments on individual points in longer messages thus: Point A Comment on A Point B Comment on B and so on. Of course (he said mischievously), you could reverse the quote and comment in non-Bat list messages (by using folder templates), but leave it as it is for messages to the Bat lists. That way, no-one here would know about your wickedness! -- Best regards, Nickmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Reply message question
Hallo Daniel, On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 16:08:06 +0100 GMT (20/12/2000, 23:08 +0800 GMT), Daniel Morton wrote: DM I am not sure this is the correct forum It is. :-) DM but I can't figure out when I hit reply how to put my reply at the DM top of the message and the message I received at the bottom. In the main menu, go to Account / Properties / Tempaltes / Reply. You will find a %Quotes macro there. In between all the other macros, this is were the original message is quoted. Move it to the bottom, where you want it. Your own reply will start at the point indicated by the %Cursor macro. If this is not clar, I can post my own Reply macro here for you to see as an example. But I might have different preferences from you. -- Cheers, Thomas. If Barbie is so popular, why do you have to buy her friends? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.48e under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Reply message question
Hi Nick My preferred method (about which I'm not a zealot, nor indeed especially scrupulous in practice) is to place my comments at the end of short messages, and to intersperse comments on individual points in longer messages thus: I think this is the best method. Of course (he said mischievously), you could reverse the quote and comment in non-Bat list messages (by using folder templates), but leave it as it is for messages to the Bat lists. That way, no-one here would know about your wickedness! :-)) What a phony guy... ;-) So short, Beat -- Using The Bat! 1.48d under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- PGP public key available: Send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or get it on keyservers: 0x4E0B0777 (DH/DSS) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Reply message question
Hello Daniel, Wednesday, December 20, 2000, 3:08:06 PM, you wrote: Daniel I think it might have to do with the reply template, but I Daniel couldn't see where I edit or view all these macros. thanks. From the main TB! window go to Account/properties/Templates. Click the + sign to expand this option. Click the reply template to select this option and in the window on the right is the default Account reply template. The macro %CURSOR is what determines the position of the cursor when you enter the editing window. In my template this come after the following: %ODateEn, %OTimeLongEn, you wrote: %Quotes This sets up a reply so that your message appears after the previous message. Move the %CURSOR in the template to be above those lines and reply will appear as you want them. Templates are one of the strengths of The Bat!. The default account templates can be overruled by templates at the folder level and address book level. There is a useful article on the FAQ site at http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/templates.html -- Cheers, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Assistant Systems Librarian --- Thought for the day: "The time was when a library was very like a museum and the librarian was a mouser in musty books. The time is when the library is a school and the librarian is in the highest sense a teacher, and a reader is a workman among his tools." Melvil Dewey (1851-1931) --- Using The Bat! 1.48e under Windows NT Build 1381 (Service Pack 6) on a Pentium with 128MB -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Reply message question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Daniel, On 20 December 2000 at 16:08:06 +0100 (which was 15:08 where I live) Daniel Morton wrote and made these points: DM I am not sure this is the correct forum but I can't figure out when I DM hit reply how to put my reply at the top of the message and the DM message I received at the bottom. You have received a number of accurate replies which point to the position of the %QUOTES macro in reply templates and advising interspersed comments. Might I recommend the excellent article by Allie Curtis Martin on the FAQ site which discusses templates. http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/templates.html I would like to echo this and say that I believe that the M$ LookOut methodology (which you are trying to emulate) is *not* a good one. It goes against netiquette in that comments you make are out of context and the reader has to trawl down through the reply to get to the original points about which a reply is being made. Also, in that method, over-quoting (including more of the original message than is necessary to convey the reply context) is the norm ... and a very bad norm it is too! The netiquette order of preference in reply formatting is: 1). Comments placed alternately between quoted points. 2). Recap context first, add comments at end (as in this message) . . . 999). Put entire original message at the end complete with headers. This is opinion, not rule. IMHO it *should* be a rule somewhere. - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: http://www.silverstones.com/MarckPGP.asc ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.48e S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOkDW6jnkJKuSnc2gEQLxGQCg2iQjqn3Z3wBkD52kPShEWekcvAkAn0XZ HCRkyDmc41gk0MjPGS05g8oG =2iJh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Reply message question
Hallo David, On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 15:52:40 + GMT (20/12/2000, 23:52 +0800 GMT), David Bevington wrote: DB "The time was when a library was very like a museum and the DB librarian was a mouser in musty books. The time is when the DB library is a school and the librarian is in the highest sense a DB teacher, and a reader is a workman among his tools." DB Melvil Dewey (1851-1931) Well, and today, a library is a set of .dll files. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. -Death is the greatest kick of all. That's why they save it for last. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.48e under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
