Re: S/MIME Signature and envelope indicator
On Tue, 3 Dec 2002 23:30:18 +0100 Peter Palmreuther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Jonathan, > > On Tuesday, December 3, 2002 at 11:15:59 PM you [JC] wrote (at least > in part): > > >>> I have noticed that messages "cryptographically signed" in MIME > >>> format show up in TB! with a dinky little Bat inside a circle on > >>> the message glyph when read and unread. Would there be any > >>> way to do this with PGP encrypted messages as well? > > >> I don't think so. S/MIME comes as an attachment which can be indicated > >> as that, whereas PGP is plain text. > >> > > > PGP signatures can come as attachments also. This message is an example. > > But I think it has to be supported by the mail client. > > It has. > And there's a big difference between S/MIME signed and PGP/MIME signed > messages: > > ,-= [ S/MIME ] =- > | Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; > | micalg=sha1; boundary="--EA1CAB733401F57" > `-= > > ,-= [ PGP/MIME ] =- > | Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; > | micalg="pgp-sha1"; boundary="=.SIbCX1.4Pt(gu+" > `-= I may be overlooking something, but the only real difference that I see in the example you list above is the protocal. > The Bat! signs the mails in message list according to > "application/pkcs7-signature", it does not even verify the signature > for doing so. "application/pgp-signature" is (yet, I hope) unknown to > The Bat! and therefore shown as "real attachment" and not treated as > signing in any way :-/ I think I'm in agreement with your implied issue with TB!'s handling of S/MIME signatures. I'd really like to know why TB! won't let me delete them like every other attachment. /sigh Once I've verified the signature on an e-mail once I don't really need it anymore. It is a waste of space. It may not seem like a lot but over time it adds up. Consider that a recent S/MIME signed message sent to this list consisted of 1008 bytes of text, and a S/MIME signature of 2.2 kilobytes. This means that roughly 2/3 of the total message was the signature. -- Best regards, Jonathanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: S/MIME Signature and envelope indicator
Hello Jonathan, On Tuesday, December 3, 2002 at 11:15:59 PM you [JC] wrote (at least in part): >>> I have noticed that messages "cryptographically signed" in MIME >>> format show up in TB! with a dinky little Bat inside a circle on >>> the message glyph when read and unread. Would there be any >>> way to do this with PGP encrypted messages as well? >> I don't think so. S/MIME comes as an attachment which can be indicated >> as that, whereas PGP is plain text. >> > PGP signatures can come as attachments also. This message is an example. > But I think it has to be supported by the mail client. It has. And there's a big difference between S/MIME signed and PGP/MIME signed messages: ,-= [ S/MIME ] =- | Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; | micalg=sha1; boundary="--EA1CAB733401F57" `-= ,-= [ PGP/MIME ] =- | Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; | micalg="pgp-sha1"; boundary="=.SIbCX1.4Pt(gu+" `-= The Bat! signs the mails in message list according to "application/pkcs7-signature", it does not even verify the signature for doing so. "application/pgp-signature" is (yet, I hope) unknown to The Bat! and therefore shown as "real attachment" and not treated as signing in any way :-/ -- Regards Peter Palmreuther (The Bat! v1.62 Beta/17 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1) The woman is man's best friend! Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: S/MIME Signature and envelope indicator
On Tue, 3 Dec 2002 18:45:07 +0100 Peter Meyns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > S> I have noticed that messages "cryptographically signed" in MIME > S> format show up in TB! with a dinky little Bat inside a circle on > S> the message glyph when read and unread. Would there be any > S> way to do this with PGP encrypted messages as well? > > I don't think so. S/MIME comes as an attachment which can be indicated > as that, whereas PGP is plain text. > PGP signatures can come as attachments also. This message is an example. But I think it has to be supported by the mail client. -- Best regards, Jonathanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] msg51743/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: S/MIME Signature and envelope indicator
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Simon, on Tue, 3 Dec 2002 17:30:07 +GMT (03.12.02, 18:30 +0100GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : gpg: Signature made 12/03/02 18:30:07 (MEZ) Mitteleuropäische Zeit using DSA key ID 5C7E8966 gpg: Good signature from "Simon Blake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" S> I have noticed that messages "cryptographically signed" in MIME format show S> up in TB! with a dinky little Bat inside a circle on the message glyph when S> read and unread. Would there be any way to do this with PGP encrypted S> messages as well? I don't think so. S/MIME comes as an attachment which can be indicated as that, whereas PGP is plain text. However, there might be a way to somehow mark a PGP message by using RegExp on the -PGP part, but don't ask me details... ;-) - -- Cheers Peter Nobody can hurt me without my permission. Mohandas Gandhi Winamp currently playing: Andrews Sisters & Bing Crosby - Santa Claus Is Coming To Town ° -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1-nr1 (Windows 98) Comment: *GnuPG signed for better authentication* iD8DBQE97O2BAzZSBuEHdM4RAr9cAJ9fFei+zG7XrpNx4yTUdILcddcTJwCg8gHR sy8nh7LrfshmEHmEqOtH1As= =6XRK -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
S/MIME Signature and envelope indicator
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Chiropter Operators, I have noticed that messages "cryptographically signed" in MIME format show up in TB! with a dinky little Bat inside a circle on the message glyph when read and unread. Would there be any way to do this with PGP encrypted messages as well? - -- Slán, Simon @ theycallmesimon.co.uk ** PGP Key: http://pgp.theycallmesimon.co.uk/ Faffing about with TB! v1.61 on W2K SP3 #312. Squad O'er Swirl My ¶ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Privacy is freedom. Protect your privacy with PGP! Comment: KeyID: 0x5C7E8966 iQA/AwUBPezqH8tub/5cfolmEQLfHgCfRUvVWtlkiuwvbb7hifSiEQvW5HYAoMBR SCucgV0WcKK1dfcXvkKYeLC5 =i0b/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
