Re: SMTP - what is sent?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello J and everyone else... JA That's not true anymore. The %From Macro doesn't need to be doubled JA up. The same thing applies to the %Reply-To macro and one JA other that I can't remember. This was changed not too long ago JA (version 1.42 maybe?) Is that so? Good to hear. The old implementation was a little silly IMO. :-) The third you're trying to think of may be Return Path? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOch1Jq2yGRAwhL7EEQL0rQCdGrN9GKg6nkub0hscDLRq489aulUAnjJ/ CjaRKfHIdjTtjkN6I9IZkKOO =1hIl -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Jason Thompson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key ID: 0x3084BEC4 [The Bat! v1.47 Beta/5] --- At first there was nothing. Then God said, 'Let there be light!' Then there was still nothing. But you could see it. //The Bat! v1.47 Beta/5 //Win98 v4.10 build 1998 //AMD K6-2 400mhz 128mb -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: SMTP - what is sent?
On Monday, September 18, 2000, 9:25:16 PM, you wrote: JT In addition to what Syafril said, you might also want to check for JT any %from macros in your templates, and folder-level identities. Do these change the user name, or just get the user name from properties? How could they change the name? Appreciate your help... ztrader -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: SMTP - what is sent?
Hi ztrader, On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 23:04:35 -0700GMT (19/09/2000, 14:04 +0800GMT), ztrader wrote: z This is a change in the account - it used to work OK. They made some z kind of change, but say it should work with lower case user names. Is z there a way to check what I actually send to them to see if it is z lower case? Of course: 1.) Go to the send box, selexct your message and take a look at the headers (shft-ctrl-K). 2.) Go to the log and see what had been sent (alt-L; watch for the log at the buttom; or shft-ctrl-A). -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.46c under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: SMTP - what is sent?
Hi ztrader, On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 23:10:42 -0700GMT (19/09/2000, 14:10 +0800GMT), ztrader wrote: JT In addition to what Syafril said, you might also want to check for JT any %from macros in your templates, and folder-level identities. z Do these change the user name, or just get the user name from z properties? How could they change the name? %From will change the "From" name, %ReplyTo" will change the reply-to name, and so on. Maybe your SMTP server checks this; it's likely if they want to prevent spam. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.46c under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: SMTP - what is sent?
On Monday, September 18, 2000, 11:20:39 PM, you wrote: TF Of course: 1.) Go to the send box, selexct your message and take a TF look at the headers (shft-ctrl-K). 2.) Go to the log and see what TF had been sent This found the problem. I had generated a message, placed it in the outbox, could not send it, and left it in the outbox. Then I heard about the lower case problem. I changed all the 'properties' to lower case, and tried tosend the message again - but the OLD message still had the ucase user name, and of course, would not send. Well, DUH, now that I checked the actual message that I was trying to send, the problem is very obvious :-). Thanks for rattling my braing... ztrader -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: SMTP - what is sent?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello ztrader and everyone else... z Do these change the user name, or just get the user name from z properties? How could they change the name? %from will actually change the "From" header. If your "From" information is usually: ztrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...then you can use this macro: %from="" %from="Xtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]" ...to change the "From" to that. Note the preceeding %from="". If you don't do this first, TB will _add_ the %from as a _second_ sender. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOceVYK2yGRAwhL7EEQJefgCgwZg+8iRwlxjDEPz4vuR2BjeGqzsAnjlP QwLRW/JZmNGR9sfh11NMqLjF =TCTu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Jason Thompson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key ID: 0x3084BEC4 [The Bat! v1.47 Beta/3] --- Jesus saves!... ...By using double coupons and shopping wisely. //The Bat! v1.47 Beta/3 //Win98 v4.10 build 1998 //AMD K6-2 400mhz 128mb -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: SMTP - what is sent?
Hello Jason, On Tuesday, September 19, 2000 at 09:33:42 GMT -0700 (which was 9:33 AM where I live) witnesses say Jason Thompson typed: ...then you can use this macro: %from="" %from="Xtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]" ...to change the "From" to that. Note the preceeding %from="". If you don't do this first, TB will _add_ the %from as a _second_ sender. That's not true anymore. The %From Macro doesn't need to be doubled up. The same thing applies to the %Reply-To macro and one other that I can't remember. This was changed not too long ago (version 1.42 maybe?) -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[4]: SMTP - what is sent?
On Tuesday, September 19, 2000, 9:33:42 AM, you wrote: JT ...then you can use this macro: %from="" %from="Xtrader JT [EMAIL PROTECTED]" Thanks much - didn't realize one could do that... ztrader -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
SMTP - what is sent?
I have a mail account that I can no longer send mail to. There is supposedly an issue which now requires all lower case characters in the user name. When I set up the account in TB, it was set up as U, with the first char in upper case, the rest lower case. I went to properties and changed everything (I think :-) to lower case. However, when I try to send mail, I still get an error that says: [EMAIL PROTECTED] no such user. The error message still has the name with a leading Ucase letter. I can receive mail, so there is such an account. Question: How can I be sure TB is not sending out an SMTP request with U? Did I not find all the places where it needs to be changed? Is it stored in the registry, perhaps? Any ideas to check this out to see if the problem is at my end or theirs? Thanks, ztrader -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org [ attachment has been remove by MDaemon ]
Re: SMTP - what is sent?
Hello ztrader, Responding to your article on Tuesday, September 19, 2000 at 16:10:24 GMT -0700 (which was 19/09/2000 6:10 GMT +0700 my Local Time) : z I have a mail account that I can no longer send mail to. There is z supposedly an issue which now requires all lower case characters in z the user name. When I set up the account in TB, it was set up as z U, with the first char in upper case, the rest lower case. I went z to properties and changed everything (I think :-) to lower case. z However, when I try to send mail, I still get an error that says: z [EMAIL PROTECTED] no such user. The error message still has the name z with a leading Ucase letter. I can receive mail, so there is such an z account. z Question: How can I be sure TB is not sending out an SMTP request with z U? Did I not find all the places where it needs to be changed? Is z it stored in the registry, perhaps? Any ideas to check this out to see z if the problem is at my end or theirs? Perhaps you are using SMTP Authentication or POP before SMTP feature, check out Account Properties|Transport, then on the SMTP tab, click "more". -- Best regards, - Syafril - Name : Syafril Hermansyah |Company: Duta Integrasi Pratama Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Voice : (62) (21) 385-1600 FAXto : (62)(21)351-9241 key:000FAX |URL: http://www.dutaint.co.id Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/1 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 Created : Tuesday, September 19, 2000, 10:27:54 GMT +0700 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
