Re: Scenario: is that possible?
Hey Britt, My MUA believes 'SecureBat! (Malka)' was used to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, July 25, 2002 at 6:07:23 PM. CGS>> I know, I always hope some guys from RitLabs are reading the list :) CGS>> and my begging for a good IMAP Support. BM> Hope and begging is good. BM> Writing directly to them is better ;-) ...and submitting to the wish list at the Bug Reports: site (see footers) is the best choice of all. That way it is tracked... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.61 Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) What could possibly go wrong? Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Scenario: is that possible?
Dear Clemens, Friday, July 26, 2002 at 12:03:10 AM you wrote: CGS> I know, I always hope some guys from RitLabs are reading the list :) CGS> and my begging for a good IMAP Support. Hope and begging is good. Writing directly to them is better ;-) -- Kind regards, Britt Malka |\/| | \__/ | \/\/ | | \\ // \ / \/ ... Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya punk? ... www.malka.it - www.malka.dk - www.supermalka.dk ... Mailer: Ritlabs SecureBat! v1.61 (7Ba40-6E8D5) under Windows 2000 5.0 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Scenario: is that possible?
Hello Bernd, Thursday, July 25, 2002, 3:59:37 PM, Bernd Gauweiler wrote: CGS>> improoved IMAP Service is a MUST (!) > Don't tell me. Tell RitLabs. I know, I always hope some guys from RitLabs are reading the list :) and my begging for a good IMAP Support. Best regards, Clemens written with TheBat! 1.61 on Windows XP, 5 1 Build 2600 on Friday, July 26, 2002 at 12:02:43 AM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Scenario: is that possible?
Hello Bernd, > Running an IMAP server on your local server is a cool idea, but you > will probably want to read your email from your ISP's (POP3) mail > account. Ack. > Short of changing your ISP's mail technology, Oh well, maybe... ;-) > you might run your own IMAP server, but you'd still need something > that fetches mail from your POP3 account and pushes it into your > IMAP server. I'm certain there are tools available for this, AFAIK my server application (which is still beta) actually already is or then definitely will be able to do that. > I somehow think your server runs Linux? Sort of, yes: www.eisfair.org > The reason for mentioning TB! V2 is that the current IMAP support in > TB! is limited to using IMAP as an alternative transport protocol, > alternative to POP3. Meaning, TB! connects to an IMAP server, > ignores all the nice ideas about server-side mail folders, and > downloads the messages to local folders. Having read your explanation below then this present IMAP-"support" of TB! is useless. At least they have the name in there; that's a start... ;-) > "Proper IMAP support" means server-side folders. One can have > multiple clients open and they are synchronized automatically; a > message that is deleted in client 1 will disappear in client 2, a > message written and saved as draft will appear in all other open > clients, etc. That is exactly what I am looking for. Who/what would synchronize the clients - that could actually only be the IMAP-server? I haven't really understood the technical side so far but: I do need IMAP(v2)-support in TB! for using it the way described even with having an IMAP-application running on my server, is that correct? If so, well, then I got to be patient, maybe a beta is going to be available soon, haven't heard anything lately, though. Thanks for you explanation! IDH (it did help ;-) ) Greetings, Alexander Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Scenario: is that possible?
CGS> improoved IMAP Service is a MUST (!) Don't tell me. Tell RitLabs. Bernd -- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Scenario: is that possible?
AL> This is interesting for me, because there is actually the possibility AL> for me to install IMAP4-mail-server software on my server. I should AL> then be able to use TB! already now without having to wait for v2 as I AL> can chose between POP3 and IMAP as protocols in TB! - or am I AL> misunderstanding something here? Let me try to get things straight: Running an IMAP server on your local server is a cool idea, but you will probably want to read your email from your ISP's (POP3) mail account. Short of changing your ISP's mail technology, you might run your own IMAP server, but you'd still need something that fetches mail from your POP3 account and pushes it into your IMAP server. I'm certain there are tools available for this, but I don't know of any. The standard ix tools (fetchmail, sendmail, qmail, etc) can probably be configured to do that; I somehow think your server runs Linux? The reason for mentioning TB! V2 is that the current IMAP support in TB! is limited to using IMAP as an alternative transport protocol, alternative to POP3. Meaning, TB! connects to an IMAP server, ignores all the nice ideas about server-side mail folders, and downloads the messages to local folders. You may configure TB! so that it doesn't delete the messages from the (IMAP) server, but it's not quite the same thing. "Proper IMAP support" means server-side folders. One can have multiple clients open and they are synchronized automatically; a message that is deleted in client 1 will disappear in client 2, a message written and saved as draft will appear in all other open clients, etc. TB! unfortunately isn't quite there yet. Hope that helps. Bernd -- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Scenario: is that possible?
Hello, > The great idea is called IMAP4, which provides server-side mailbox > folders to solve just the very problem you have. Meaning: if I had mail-server functionality on my server that has IMAP4 capability I would be able to do just that? I guess I must admit that I have no clue what the difference between POP3 and IMAP4 is... This is interesting for me, because there is actually the possibility for me to install IMAP4-mail-server software on my server. I should then be able to use TB! already now without having to wait for v2 as I can chose between POP3 and IMAP as protocols in TB! - or am I misunderstanding something here? > Anything else (using some flavor of network shares between your notebook > and your desktop) is a kludge. Ack... > Looking forward to TB!2. Allegedly, improved IMAP support might be on > the plan... With the above mentioned working I would not have to wait for that, would I? Greetings, Alexander Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Scenario: is that possible?
Hello Bernd, Thursday, July 25, 2002, 12:26:21 PM, Bernd Gauweiler wrote: > Looking forward to TB!2. Allegedly, improved IMAP support might be on > the plan... improoved IMAP Service is a MUST (!) Because at the moment there are only very view Mail Clients really capable of full IMAP support. If you go for Windows u have Mulberry (with the best IMO), Outlook (sucks but has very good IMAP support), Netscape (4 has good, but shouldn't be used anymore, 6 is like mozilla), Mozilla (dunno how good it is, but it works quite fine), and well ... I think Eudora has too IMAP support, but I can't say how good it is ... Best regards, Clemens written with TheBat! 1.61 on Windows XP, 5 1 Build 2600 on Thursday, July 25, 2002 at 2:06:40 PM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Scenario: is that possible?
AL> But maybe somebody has a great idea? The great idea is called IMAP4, which provides server-side mailbox folders to solve just the very problem you have. Anything else (using some flavor of network shares between your notebook and your desktop) is a kludge. Looking forward to TB!2. Allegedly, improved IMAP support might be on the plan... Bernd -- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Scenario: is that possible?
Hello everybody, I didn't find an answer to my question, therefore forgive me if it has been answered already. This is gonna be a little bit longer: Lets say I have a Unix-Server (very basic), a WinXP desktop on which TB! is running and a laptop that also has TB! running. The desktop, though, is the one that fetches and then stores the mails locally (in TB!, obviously). I could (and I do so when I'm gone) of course also download the mails to my laptop but I do not want to do so when I am mainly working with my desktop as that would mean incomplete accounts: some mails on the desktop, some on the laptop. But as it would sometimes be more convenient to just check the mails with my laptop instead of going to the desktop, I was wondering if there is any way that I could have the laptop kind of check out TB! on my desktop, if you understand what I am trying to say. :-) Of course I could set up TB! on the laptop that way that it leaves the mail on the server so they will then be deleted by the desktop-TB! when fetching them but that wouldn't help for those mails that have already been fetched by the desktop. Plus sent mails (via the laptop) wouldn't appear in my desktop-TB! and so on. Synchronizing in this scenario is not a way to go, too much of a hassle. The server doesn't seem to help here as I can't think of a way to use it for solving my "problem". There is, though, such a thing called "TCP/IP or Dial-out server" for TB! instead of "TCP/IP Workstation" (the way it is set up right now). Would that help me? As far as I understand it wouldn't: Mail requested by the client (= laptop) would not be stored on the server (= desktop) _as its own mail_ but as mail for the client. But the client and the server are (should!) actually the same, at least email-wise. So this doesn't seem to help me (haven't tried it, though, as I can't risk a mess). What I would need is some kind of a mirror-TB! on my laptop when looking for mails - idealistically, the mails checked/read with the laptop should then also be marked read on the desktop, the ones deleted via the laptop should then be gone on the desktop, the ones moved/answered etc. should be... and so on. But I guess that is simply not possible without synchronizing? Unfortunately, the latter takes way too long and is much too complicated for this pure "convenience problem". But maybe somebody has a great idea? Thanks for your thoughts, Alexander Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
