Re[2]: Selected quote in reply

2004-02-13 Thread P.Johnson
Dan,

On Thursday, February 12, 2004, 11:27 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
DP Thursday, February 12, 2004, 4:18:07 PM, you wrote:
PJ Could someone please remind me of the key sequence to include
PJ only selected (highlighted) text in the quote of a reply?...

DP Highlight the text you want and press 'F4' ;)

Thanks Dan. :-))

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Selected quote in reply

2004-02-12 Thread P.Johnson
Hello all,

Could someone please remind me of the key sequence to include
only selected (highlighted) text in the quote of a reply? Sorry
to be so dim yet again. (:-)

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Re: Selected quote in reply

2004-02-12 Thread Dan Perez
Hello P.Johnson,

Thursday, February 12, 2004, 4:18:07 PM, you wrote:

PJ Hello all,

PJ Could someone please remind me of the key sequence to include
PJ only selected (highlighted) text in the quote of a reply? Sorry
PJ to be so dim yet again. (:-)


Highlight the text you want and press 'F4' ;)

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Re: Selected quote with Reply to All

2000-11-17 Thread Manfred Ell

On 17-11-2000 at 16:34:50GMT -0800 (which was 0:34 where I live)
Clif Oliver wrote regarding the subject of "Selected quote with Reply to All"

 Since having spotted the message on this list about being able to
 select a block of text when reading a message, pressing F4, and
 replying with just the selected text quoted, that has become one of my
 favorite shortcuts.


Hello Clif,

Now this one was new for me. What a jewel.
Why didn't they put it in a menu? Why not the default action for the reply
button?
So easily missed!

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Re: Selected quote with Reply to All

2000-11-17 Thread Manfred Ell

On 17-11-2000 at 19:47:33GMT -0500 (which was 0:47 where I live)
A. Curtis Martin wrote regarding the subject of "Selected quote with Reply to All"

 Another way to reply to only quoted material is to hold down the shift
 key while pressing the reply button.


Hello A. Curtis,

Thanks also for this one

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Re: Selected quote with Reply to All

2000-11-17 Thread A . Curtis Martin

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ME Now this one was new for me. What a jewel. Why didn't they put it in
ME a menu?

It's in the menu's. For the main TB! window, it's in the specials
sub-menu of the the 'message' menu. If the folder view window, it's in
the 'specials' menu.

ME Why not the default action for the reply button? So easily missed!

The Bat! originally didn't support quoting selected text and I can
vividly remember the debating on this list in support of and against its
implementation. I'm almost sure the vigourous debating was the reason
behind its not being implemented as a default action. Those who don't
want it will not be hindered by it, and those who need it can easily use
it.

They forgot to include the reply-to-all command in the implementation.
:=(

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Re: Selected quote with Reply to All

2000-11-17 Thread Manfred Ell

On 17-11-2000 at 06:41:46GMT -0500 (which was 11:41 where I live)
A. Curtis Martin wrote regarding the subject of "Selected quote with Reply to All"

Hello A. Curtis,



 It's in the menu's. For the main TB! window, it's in the specials
 sub-menu of the the 'message' menu. If the folder view window, it's in
 the 'specials' menu.

You are right, I missed it.

ME Why not the default action for the reply button? So easily missed!

 The Bat! originally didn't support quoting selected text and I can
 vividly remember the debating on this list in support of and against its
 implementation. I'm almost sure the vigourous debating was the reason
 behind its not being implemented as a default action. Those who don't
 want it will not be hindered by it, and those who need it can easily use
 it.

There certainly is room for controversy here ;-)


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Re: Selected quote with Reply to All

2000-11-17 Thread Manfred Ell

On 17-11-2000 at 07:45:02GMT -0500 (which was 12:45 where I live)
Jan Rifkinson wrote regarding the subject of "Selected quote with Reply to All"

 Hi Manfred,

On  Friday, November 17, 2000 @ 10:32:52 +, you wrote
the following about "Selected quote with Reply to All"

Manfred [...]  What  a  jewel.  Why didn't they put it in a
Manfred menu? [...] So easily missed!

You should also be aware that there are a number of other
helpful functions, macros, templates, shortcut keys which
are not obvious either. However, they can be found in TB!
support files on line. I've downloaded  read these files
  found  them  very  helpful;  there  is an overwhelming
amount  of  info.

IMO,  if there's a weakness in TB! it is the organization
of the support/help info. However, the style  quality of
support on this list does not leave a user out on a limb.

There  is  an  argument to be made that extensive manuals
are not really studied by most users, that they shouldn't
be  necessary  to  operate a program, etc. But there's an
argument  that  can  be  made that an on-line manual-type
help area would be useful as well.


Hello Jan,

I've said it before and I say it again. TheBat is IMHO the best and most
powerful email client out there. (It lacks some common features like HTML,
no flames please).
But to learn it with the info provided is quite impossible. This group is
great but one cannot expect the "normal" (business)user to join this group
to get the program working the way he likes it (or better is used to from
the client he's coming from).
The help files are outdated and a lot of stuff is missing.

Cannot somebody take the online information, convert it to a online
HTML-help file or PDF document, let them put an option in the help menu
for this and include the lot in the distribution file. Shouldn't be
difficult and would help a lot.

What do you think? Marck, Curtis, Stefan

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Re: Selected quote with Reply to All

2000-11-17 Thread A . Curtis Martin

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On Fri, 17 Nov 2000 14:56:05 +, Manfred Ell contributed this to the
collective wisdom of the human race:

ME I've said it before and I say it again. TheBat is IMHO the best and
ME most powerful email client out there. (It lacks some common features
ME like HTML, no flames please).

TB!'s editor doesn't support composing HTML mail (I personally don't see
why it couldn't or shouldn't). Otherwise, TB! does have HTML support. It
has its own internal viewer. :=) The internal viewer will not retrieve
images or other web-page components which are embedded in documents as
links. This is a favourable setup for security reasons. Security that
isn't appreciated until one gets bitten, I hasten to add. :=)

Some may also complain that TB!'s internal viewer will not display
certain HTML documents as they should. Well, although the W3C (World
Wide Web Consortium) exists to try to maintain standards in the various
markup languages, deviations from what is standard still very much
exist, and many pages continue to display differently even between the
major browsers. If the HTML document doesn't display correctly with
TB!'s internal viewer, then double click the HTML attachment and it
will be displayed in your favourite browser.

I know it's inconvenient for some, but the security benefits behind such
an implementation isn't really appreciated until one is bitten before
using TB!, or when one is not bitten using TB! while everyone else
around them is being bitten when using Outlook( Express)?.

I guess it's all up for debate and God knows, this topic has had its
fair share of debating. Everyone knows the 'benefits' of HTML support as
you see it. My aim here is to simply summarize, for the newcomers around
here, how those of us who prefer TB!'s type of support feel. :=)

One cannot really expect TB! to be the end all and be all of solutions
for every user but I do hope that they continue to uphold a model of
secure e-mail management that is rapidly becoming unpopular, it would
seem. :=/

None of what I said so far is officially from Ritlabs or its developers,
so we don't know how development will proceed in this regard. It will
certainly depend on the target customer base and what they want.

ME But to learn it with the info provided is quite impossible. This
ME group is great but one cannot expect the "normal" (business)user to
ME join this group to get the program working the way he likes it (or
ME better is used to from the client he's coming from). The help files
ME are outdated and a lot of stuff is missing.

I agree here.

ME Cannot somebody take the online information, convert it to a online
ME HTML-help file or PDF document, let them put an option in the help menu
ME for this and include the lot in the distribution file. Shouldn't be
ME difficult and would help a lot.

Do you know how to do this? I do prefer the new HTML based Windows help
system myself. I think it would take quite a bit of time and effort to do
this conversion. Then the burning question arises. Why convert it when
it lacks so much information? I certainly wouldn't want to merely
convert it. I would wish to add to it which is what we do through the
FAQ pages completely written and maintained by users as yourself.

ME What do you think? Marck, Curtis, Stefan

:=) I see that you put Marck and I in the same line as Stefan. Marck and
I are TB! users just like you. We bought our licenses just as you did.
TBUDL and TBBETA were started by a TB! user just as yourself. We have no
special influence, as far as I can see, over what Ritlabs does with
respect to TB!.

On-line documentation lies smuggly in the hands of Ritlabs as it should.
I hope that they're reading you on this issue because it's a personal
pet peeve of mine. :=)

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Re: Selected quote with Reply to All

2000-11-17 Thread Manfred Ell

On 17-11-2000 at 11:09:50GMT -0500 (which was 16:09 where I live)
A. Curtis Martin wrote regarding the subject of "Selected quote with Reply to All"

ME What do you think? Marck, Curtis, Stefan

 :=) I see that you put Marck and I in the same line as Stefan. Marck and
 I are TB! users just like you. We bought our licenses just as you did.
 TBUDL and TBBETA were started by a TB! user just as yourself. We have no
 special influence, as far as I can see, over what Ritlabs does with
 respect to TB!.

 On-line documentation lies smuggly in the hands of Ritlabs as it should.
 I hope that they're reading you on this issue because it's a personal
 pet peeve of mine. :=)



Hello A. Curtis,

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Re[3]: Selected quote with Reply to All

2000-11-17 Thread Abigail Marshall

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On Friday, November 17, 2000, 4:45:02 AM, Jan Rifkinson wrote:


JR There  is  an  argument to be made that extensive manuals
JRare not really studied by most users, that they shouldn't
JRbe  necessary  to  operate a program, etc. But there's an
JRargument  that  can  be  made that an on-line manual-type
JRhelp area would be useful as well.

As a webmaster and forum moderator, I found that it saved me time in
the long run to have an on-line FAQ, as opposed to continually seeing
the same questions crop up.  But of course the job of maintaining the
FAQ was burdensome - and it only works if it is well organized.

Well, after a long and hard search I found a wonderful, freeware
program called FAQ-O-Matic that allows the creation of FAQs that can
be added to and modified by specified users, or the general public,
depending on how you set permissions.  You can view this in action and
download the software here:
http://faqomatic.sourceforge.net/

Anyway, the software is free and could resolve some of the problems
TB users have with limited documentation with the program.

-Abigail Marshall

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Re: Selected quote with Reply to All

2000-11-17 Thread Manfred Ell

On 17-11-2000 at 15:02:42GMT -0800 (which was 23:02 where I live)
Abigail Marshall wrote regarding the subject of "Selected quote with Reply to All"

 Well, after a long and hard search I found a wonderful, freeware
 program called FAQ-O-Matic that allows the creation of FAQs that can
 be added to and modified by specified users, or the general public,
 depending on how you set permissions.  You can view this in action and
 download the software here:
 http://faqomatic.sourceforge.net/


Hello Abigail,

Now this seems worth a try. Anybody?
I'll download it to look at it.


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Re: Selected quote with Reply to All

2000-11-17 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone


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Hi Abigail,

On 17 November 2000 at 15:02:42 -0800 (which was 23:02 where I
live) Abigail Marshall wrote and made these points:

AM Well, after a long and hard search I found a wonderful, freeware
AM program called FAQ-O-Matic ...

AM Anyway, the software is free and could resolve some of the
AM problems TB users have with limited documentation with the
AM program.

The  FAQ  we  currently  have is hosted on a system over which we only
have  limited  control.  I  would  not  be able to install the support
software that is needed to provide the required hosting environment.

Having said that, FAQ-O-Matic certainly does look good. If I ever move
silverstones.com  to  an  in-house  24/7  hook up, I'll put it on in a
trice!

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Selected quote with Reply to All

2000-11-16 Thread Clif Oliver

Since having spotted the message on this list about being able to
select a block of text when reading a message, pressing F4, and
replying with just the selected text quoted, that has become one of my
favorite shortcuts.

I have been looking for the equivalent function for Reply To All.  But
I haven't been able to find one.

Anyone know if this is possible?

Thanks.

Clif


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Re: Selected quote with Reply to All

2000-11-16 Thread A . Curtis Martin

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On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 16:34:50 -0800, Clif Oliver graced us with
these comments:

CO Since having spotted the message on this list about being able to
CO select a block of text when reading a message, pressing F4, and
CO replying with just the selected text quoted, that has become one of my
CO favorite shortcuts.

CO I have been looking for the equivalent function for Reply To All.  But
CO I haven't been able to find one.

CO Anyone know if this is possible?

No, it's presently not possible.

Another way to reply to only quoted material is to hold down the shift
key while pressing the reply button.

I do ardently hope that the developers will make this shift operator
work with the reply-to-all button as well.

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