Re: Signature delimiter (Was: TB 3.5 - Bug with view by thread)
Hello Stephane, On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:32:08 +0200 GMT (23/06/2005, 20:32 +0700 GMT), Stephane Bouvard [ML] wrote: SBM> All the links i have are in french, No prob. SBM> You can also have some informations here : SBM> http://www.belgium.be - search with "eid" Government PR. The following site is in English, but doesn't give as much information as the French-language site: http://eid.belgium.be/en/navigation/12000/index.html I'll check Google for opposing views. We might have to move to TBOT for that, though. SBM> The only problem of TheBat is that it use the email address SBM> to automaticaly select the certificate, it cannot select a SBM> certificate manualy, nor use a certificate without email SBM> address... I understand your point. SBM> of course i cannot send my officiel ID card :) I know! It was a joke... ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. "I'm in favor of love as long as it doesn't happen when 'The Simpsons' are on TV." (Anita, 6) Message reply created with The Bat! 3.5.30 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Signature delimiter (Was: TB 3.5 - Bug with view by thread)
Hi, ,- - [ Le mercredi 15 juin 2005 vers 3:52 Thomas Fernandez écrivait: ] - - | SBM>> My problem is that i have an official national certificate : in SBM>> Belgium, we now have an electronic identity card, with an SBM>> included certificate (wich need the card, a card reader, a pin SBM>> code,...). This certificate work well with Outlook, > Wow. Can you direct me to a website that describes this real-life > Big-Brother-Technology and its uses? All the links i have are in french, but a search on google with "electronic id belgium" or "eid belgium" will give you plenty of links, even Bill Gates was come in belgium for the official launch of this eid card (i think belgium is one of the first country to adopt this card). You can also have some informations here : http://www.belgium.be - search with "eid" > TB will accept biometric data soon, the developers want us to > believe. Sent them a mail and ask about the ID cert that is accepted > by the competiton but not by TB. You might have to send them your ID > card and PIN code for testing purposes, though. The only problem of TheBat is that it use the email address to automaticaly select the certificate, it cannot select a certificate manualy, nor use a certificate without email address... of course i cannot send my officiel ID card :) | `- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- Best regards... _ (_' L'informatique est ma passion, vous la simplifier, mon métier ! ,_)téphane Bouvard [antarex AT freenet DOT be] http://www.antarex.be -- _ _ |_)(_ Votre propre nom de domaine .be - service de qualité - 25 Euros o|_)(_ Hosting php4/cgi/mySQL - 100 Euros, pq payer plus ? www.myown.be Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Signature delimiter (Was: TB 3.5 - Bug with view by thread)
Hello Stephane, On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:31:57 +0200 GMT (15/06/2005, 01:31 +0700 GMT), Stephane Bouvard [ML] wrote: SBM> My problem is that i have an official national certificate : in SBM> Belgium, we now have an electronic identity card, with an SBM> included certificate (wich need the card, a card reader, a pin SBM> code,...). This certificate work well with Outlook, Wow. Can you direct me to a website that describes this real-life Big-Brother-Technology and its uses? SBM> but not with TheBat! TB will accept biometric data soon, the developers want us to believe. Sent them a mail and ask about the ID cert that is accepted by the competiton but not by TB. You might have to send them your ID card and PIN code for testing purposes, though. -- Cheers, Thomas. The passive voice is to be avoided. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.5.26 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Signature delimiter (Was: TB 3.5 - Bug with view by thread)
Hi, ,- - [ Le mardi 17 mai 2005 vers 16:37 Leif Gregory écrivait: ] - - | > However, (you knew that was coming didn't you! ), to address > your S/MIME issue. I'm not quite sure what the exact problem is, but > if you'd like you can get a free personal e-mail certificate from > www.thawte.com or at least you used to be able to. Those are known to > be just fine for use in TB. I don't quite recall the URL off the top > of my head but someone wrote a very nice tutorial detailing the > process step by step. I'm sure someone will chime in with it here > shortly. | `- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - My problem is that i have an official national certificate : in Belgium, we now have an electronic identity card, with an included certificate (wich need the card, a card reader, a pin code,...). This certificate work well with Outlook, but not with TheBat! : this certificate does not mention any email address (this certificate authenticate my name, not my email address)... and TheBat! only select the S/Mime certificate with the email address... so TheBat! allways told me that i does'nt have any valid certificate for my address... -- Best regards... _ (_' L'informatique est ma passion, vous la simplifier, mon métier ! ,_)téphane Bouvard [antarex AT freenet DOT be] http://www.antarex.be -- _ _ |_)(_ Votre propre nom de domaine .be - service de qualité - 25 Euros o|_)(_ Hosting php4/cgi/mySQL - 100 Euros, pq payer plus ? www.myown.be Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Signature delimiter (Was: TB 3.5 - Bug with view by thread)
Leif wrote on Dienstag, 17. Mai 2005, 16:37: > However, (you knew that was coming didn't you! ), to address > your S/MIME issue. I'm not quite sure what the exact problem is, but > if you'd like you can get a free personal e-mail certificate from > www.thawte.com or at least you used to be able to. Those certificates are stil free - i ordered mine a few days ago. Should you use Opera 8.0 as your browser, switch it's identifier to Mozilla and everything should work fine (according to their customer support)... -- Regards, Ralph Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Signature delimiter (Was: TB 3.5 - Bug with view by thread)
Hello Stephane, Tuesday, May 17, 2005, 7:02:53 AM, you wrote: S> I would like to sign my messages using S/MIME, but TB does not S> recognize my official/legal certificate :( But it will not change S> anything, the add is imposed by internal rules. We understand your plight. With regards to this rule on the lists, we have in the past, and will continue to do so, make exceptions for people who have no choice in the matter. Don't worry about it. Now that we know where the ad is coming from you aren't going to be penalized for it. However, (you knew that was coming didn't you! ), to address your S/MIME issue. I'm not quite sure what the exact problem is, but if you'd like you can get a free personal e-mail certificate from www.thawte.com or at least you used to be able to. Those are known to be just fine for use in TB. I don't quite recall the URL off the top of my head but someone wrote a very nice tutorial detailing the process step by step. I'm sure someone will chime in with it here shortly. -- __ TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons: http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PCWSmileys: http://PCWize.com/thebat/pcwsmileys.php Tagline of the day: You know you're getting old when you stop to tie your shoes and wonder what else you can do while you're down there. Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Signature delimiter (Was: TB 3.5 - Bug with view by thread)
Hi, ,- - [ Le lundi 16 mai 2005 vers 14:17 Roelof Otten écrivait: ] - - | > > Please keep your entire signature under your signature delimiter. TB does not recognise two signature delimiter, and there is already one added by the add, so it does'nt change anything... but if you want... > I realize that several ISPs and employers have those added by their > SMTP server, if that's the case you can keep them from appearing in > your message body by signing the message with PGP/MIME or S/MIME or by I would like to sign my messages using S/MIME, but TB does not recognize my official/legal certificate :( But it will not change anything, the add is imposed by internal rules. | `- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- Best regards... _ (_' ,_)téphane Bouvard [antarex AT freenet DOT be] http://www.antarex.be -- _ _ |_)(_ Votre propre nom de domaine .be - service de qualité - 25 Euros o|_)(_ Hosting php4/cgi/mySQL - 100 Euros, pq payer plus ? www.myown.be Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Top posting (was: TB 3.5 - Bug with view by thread)
Hallo Stephane, On Mon, 16 May 2005 01:01:04 +0200GMT (16-5-2005, 1:01 +0200, where I live), you wrote: SB> allow to create multiple POP3 into only one account, i do not want to add more folders :) SB> ,- - [ Le dimanche 15 mai 2005 vers 13:48 MAU écrivait: ] - - SB> | >> Hello Stephane, Just came back from work and saw that I forgot this: Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Stephane. )<)))'> This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your message and following it with all quoted text below, is not encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list because a) It makes it difficult to glean context from what you typed at the top of the message and b) It encourages excessive quoting. We would much prefer if you quote just that much of the message to which you're replying, so we know what it is you're referring to, and then below the quotation, type your response. If you're responding to more than one part of the original, then quote each part separately and follow each part with your response. Now, I know that you may not personally prefer this format and that you may disagree with some of the reasoning here. We very much respect this. However, this is the format that most of the active members here prefer and all members are expected, and are being asked to use the format that will make most of the active membership here comfortable reading. You'll likely get a more responsive group when you post using a style that is comfortable for them to read and understand. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. -- Groetjes, Roelof Dogmatism: Puppyism come to its full growth. The Bat! 3.5 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpORv6CbSvlh.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 3.5 - Bug with view by thread
Hallo Stephane, On Mon, 16 May 2005 01:01:04 +0200GMT (16-5-2005, 1:01 +0200, where I live), you wrote: SB> Bien à vous... SB> _ SB> (_' L'informatique est ma passion, vous la simplifier, mon métier ! SB> ,_)téphane Bouvard [antarex AT freenet DOT be] http://www.antarex.be Please keep your entire signature under your signature delimiter. Second, your second signature has a rather commercial nature, we tend to actively discourage those, so if you add it yourself would you refrain from doing so? I realize that several ISPs and employers have those added by their SMTP server, if that's the case you can keep them from appearing in your message body by signing the message with PGP/MIME or S/MIME or by sending it via your own mail server. -- Groetjes, Roelof '95 - The number of calls to tech support before you can get it to run The Bat! 3.5 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpKfeiVpn89Q.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 3.5 - Bug with view by thread
Hello Stephane, > i prefer my method... No problem. That's what the different colours were invented for ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 3.5 - Bug with view by thread
Hi, I already have too much folders, i prefer my method... i prefer to group those mails into only one folder, easy to archive every month and easy to backup. i do not see the interest to use a VF when i do not need them... its enough annoying that TB does not allow to create multiple POP3 into only one account, i do not want to add more folders :) ,- - [ Le dimanche 15 mai 2005 vers 13:48 MAU écrivait: ] - - | > Hello Stephane, >> I have a rule that move automaticaly every mail i send from the sended box >> to the Inbox >> folder, so i directly can see my own messages threaded with mail to whish i >> have reply. > There is a better solution for that. Create a VF (Virtual Folder) with a > threaded view mode and filter for 'any message' in Inbox and Sent Mail > folders. | `- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bien à vous... _ (_' L'informatique est ma passion, vous la simplifier, mon métier ! ,_)téphane Bouvard [antarex AT freenet DOT be] http://www.antarex.be -- _ _ |_)(_ Votre propre nom de domaine .be - service de qualité - 25 Euros o|_)(_ Hosting php4/cgi/mySQL - 100 Euros, pq payer plus ? www.myown.be Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 3.5 - Bug with view by thread
Hello Stephane, > I have a rule that move automaticaly every mail i send from the sended box to > the Inbox > folder, so i directly can see my own messages threaded with mail to whish i > have reply. There is a better solution for that. Create a VF (Virtual Folder) with a threaded view mode and filter for 'any message' in Inbox and Sent Mail folders. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB 3.5 - Bug with view by thread
Hi, I've upgraded to TB 3.5 (final), and i have a bug with threads : I have a rule that move automaticaly every mail i send from the sended box to the Inbox folder, so i directly can see my own messages threaded with mail to whish i have reply. Now, with TB 3.5, my messages are not automaticaly threaded anymore : when i send a message, this message is well moved to the inbox, but appear at the top of the list and not threaded anymore... i must leave the Inbox folder and come back to see my mail correctly threaded... Is it a way to fix that ? Best regards... _ (_' ,_)téphane Bouvard [antarex AT freenet DOT be] http://www.antarex.be -- _ _ |_)(_ Votre propre nom de domaine .be - service de qualité - 25 Euros o|_)(_ Hosting php4/cgi/mySQL - 100 Euros, pq payer plus ? www.myown.be Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
