Quotestyle (was: TXT import)

2001-07-20 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello Mars!

On Thursday, July 19, 2001 at 7:49:03 PM you wrote:

  Hello Mars!
  
  On Thursday, July 19, 2001 at 1:49:22 PM you wrote:
  

Is it possible to make Eudora use a quote prefix without a blank
before it? I can't remember exactly, but I think so ...


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Re: TXT import

2001-07-19 Thread Thomas F

Hi Marck,

On Wed, 18 Jul 2001 14:46:38 +0100GMT (18/07/2001, 21:46 +0800GMT),
Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

the last line of your posting, as received here, was:

MDP Add this line at the top of the text file:

Just EOF. No footer, nothing.

I also received a message in my inbox, which I copy here:

MDP
MDP Then try the import again. That will fix it. (sorry - should have
MDP remembered that).
MDP 
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Mind you, this is *after* I hit shft-crtl-K. Without shft-crtl-K, this
second messages starts at your sig delimiter.

Now, TB obviously cut your message in half after receipt (because
there are no routing headers in the second part). I am also missing
the line with the secret tip you are giving Dierk - obviously he got
it, but I didn't.

Since I don't know what was in that line and caused this break-up, I
cannot even start making a guess what happend. Do you have any idea?

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Re: TXT import

2001-07-19 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello Thomas!

On Thursday, July 19, 2001 at 9:22:17 AM you wrote:

 Since I don't know what was in that line and caused this break-up, I
 cannot even start making a guess what happend. Do you have any idea?

Very easy: You have to insert a From line before the first
(Return-path) of the messages.

When he told me, I felt very stupid, since we often enough mentioned
that the From line is used as the Here begins message indicator
under UNIX.



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Re: TXT import

2001-07-19 Thread Thomas F

Hi Dierk,

On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 10:02:45 +0200GMT (19/07/2001, 16:02 +0800GMT),
Dierk Haasis wrote:

DH Very easy: You have to insert a From line before the first
DH (Return-path) of the messages.

DH When he told me, I felt very stupid, since we often enough mentioned
DH that the From line is used as the Here begins message indicator
DH under UNIX.

And under TB too? This explains why the message is split at that line.
Good it is not. Did anybody else experience the same as me?

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Re: TXT import

2001-07-19 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello Thomas!

On Thursday, July 19, 2001 at 10:44:31 AM you wrote:

 And under TB too?

That I can't say. But it looks like it.

 This explains why the message is split at that line. Good it is not.
 Did anybody else experience the same as me?  ^^*

Well, I didn't, I got the whole enchilada ...

*BTW, did you just see a Star Wars movie, except for the first one?



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Re: TXT import

2001-07-19 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Thomas,

On 19 July 2001 at  16:44:31 +0800 (which was 09:44 where I live)
Thomas F wrote to Dierk Haasis on TBUDL and made these points:

DH Very easy: You have to insert a From line before the first
DH (Return-path) of the messages.

DH When he told me, I felt very stupid, since we often enough mentioned
DH that the From line is used as the Here begins message indicator
DH under UNIX.

TF And under TB too?

No - only when you are asking TB to import a UNIX MBX file.

TF This explains why the message is split at that line.

Ah! Yes - it has been dissected by a UNIX router on the way to your
machine.

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Re: TXT import

2001-07-19 Thread Thomas F

Hi Marck,

On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 12:03:27 +0100GMT (19/07/2001, 19:03 +0800GMT),
Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

TF And under TB too?

MDP No - only when you are asking TB to import a UNIX MBX file.

I am certain I didn't ask.

TF This explains why the message is split at that line.

MDP Ah! Yes - it has been dissected by a UNIX router on the way to your
MDP machine.

If it was on the way to my machine, how did the second part reach my
machine? Without headers, I mean.

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Re: TXT import

2001-07-19 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Thomas,

On 19 July 2001 at  19:13:55 +0800 (which was 12:13 where I live)
Thomas F wrote to Marck D Pearlstone on TBUDL and made these points:

MDP No - only when you are asking TB to import a UNIX MBX file.

TF I am certain I didn't ask.

I know - you didn't need to in this case. Let's get a bit more
clarity:

1). When importing messages from a Unix mailbox, all messages *MUST*
start with this From line.

2). TB does *NOT* have any other use for this and does *NOT* recognize
it in an incoming mail stream.

3). Any such stream-wise recognition is down to Unix servers
on-the-way.

TF This explains why the message is split at that line.

MDP Ah! Yes - it has been dissected by a UNIX router on the way to
MDP your machine.

TF If it was on the way to my machine, how did the second part
TF reach my machine? Without headers, I mean.

Because it is likely to have happened while the server was saving the
received message in your POP box, so it knew it was dealing with a
message for you. It just turned it into two messages, one of which was
a complete mess.

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Re: TXT import

2001-07-19 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Marck,

On Thursday, July 19, 2001 at 1:34:33 PM you wrote (at least in part):

MDP Because it is likely to have happened while the server was saving the
MDP received message in your POP box, so it knew it was dealing with a
MDP message for you. It just turned it into two messages, one of which was
MDP a complete mess.

Everythink Marck said is 100% correct as far as I can tell from my Point of
Linux-Sysadmin-View.
No more to add, your POP-Toaster is the culprit :-)
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Re[2]: TXT import

2001-07-19 Thread Michael Hahn

Hi, Thomas:

TF OK. Then my question to the list is: Did anybody else with a
TF myrealbox account have this problem? If so, we should report it to
TF the people there. If not, Marck will have to think about a new
TF threory. ;-)

Confirmed here--two messages, with one filtering to my TB! folder and
the other filtered to trash.

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Re: TXT import

2001-07-19 Thread Mars Descent

At 12:30 AM 7/18/01 +0200, you wrote:
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 Hello Dierk,
 
 On Tuesday, July 17, 2001 at 17:40:41 +0200, Dierk Haasis [DH] wrote
 concerning 'TXT import':
 
 DH Is there a way to import messages saved in TXT files back into
 DH TB!?
 
 Hmmm... Does the txt file include the headers? If so you can import it
 as Unix mailbox format.

I tried clicking Tools/Import like that, but, it did nothing.  Was like I 
never clicked anything


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Re: TXT import

2001-07-19 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello Mars!

On Thursday, July 19, 2001 at 1:49:22 PM you wrote:

 I tried clicking Tools/Import like that, but, it did nothing.  Was like I
 never clicked anything

Did you follow the thread? The first line of every message has to be a
From line. I inserted it by hand for 24 messages in one file ...

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Re: TXT import

2001-07-19 Thread Chema Berian

Hello Listers, 

On Thu, 19 Jul 2001,  at 16:44:31 [GMT +0800] (which was 10:44 where I
live)  Thomas wrote:

DH Very easy: You have to insert a From line before the first
DH (Return-path) of the messages.

DH When he told me, I felt very stupid, since we often enough mentioned
DH that the From line is used as the Here begins message indicator
DH under UNIX.

TF And under TB too? This explains why the message is split at that line.
TF Good it is not. Did anybody else experience the same as me?

 It is a server related bug. A server misinterpreted the line starting
 with  From  as two messages in the same stream. Servers can use the
 same  connection  for  several  messages if all of them have the same
 recipient.

 TB is not affected *if* server didn't.

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Re: TXT import

2001-07-19 Thread Thomas F

Hi Chema,

On Fri, 20 Jul 2001 00:54:57 +0200GMT (20/07/2001, 06:54 +0800GMT),
Chema Berian wrote:

CB  It is a server related bug. A server misinterpreted the line starting
CB  with  From  as two messages in the same stream. Servers can use the
CB  same  connection  for  several  messages if all of them have the same
CB  recipient.

My bug report to myrealbox.com will be sent with a copy to TBOT.

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Re: TXT import

2001-07-18 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello David!

On Wednesday, July 18, 2001 at 12:30:30 AM you wrote:

 Hmmm... Does the txt file include the headers?

Yes.

 If so you can import it as Unix mailbox format.

No, just tried.

Here is the beginning of the first message in the TXT:

 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
 From:E-Skeptic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Date:Monday, February 19, 2001, 11:57:14 PM
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Re: TXT import

2001-07-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Dierk,

On 18 July 2001 at  13:47:57 +0200 (which was 12:47 where I live)
Dierk Haasis wrote to David van Zuijlekom and made these points:

DH No, just tried.

DH Here is the beginning of the first message in the TXT:

 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
 From:E-Skeptic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To:  Skeptics Society [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:Monday, February 19, 2001, 11:57:14 PM
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^^^ remove this

Import this as Unix mailbox V

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Re: TXT import

2001-07-18 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello Marck!

On Wednesday, July 18, 2001 at 2:16:01 PM you wrote:

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 ^^^ remove this

 Import this as Unix mailbox V

OK, I cut out the header info from TB!'s export job (the one's you see
above and it's footer line, which looks like the dividing line above.
then I tried to import them through Import Messages/UNIX.

And now guess what TB! imported, and why I write again ... Correct O
messages imported.

I'm sure the mistake lies on my side, but can't pin it down, yet.

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Re: TXT import

2001-07-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Dierk,

On 18 July 2001 at  14:57:28 +0200 (which was 13:57 where I live)
Dierk Haasis wrote to Marck D Pearlstone and made these points:

DH OK, I cut out the header info from TB!'s export job (the one's you
DH see above and it's footer line, which looks like the dividing line
DH above. then I tried to import them through Import Messages/UNIX.

DH And now guess what TB! imported, and why I write again ... Correct O
DH messages imported.

DH I'm sure the mistake lies on my side, but can't pin it down, yet.

Add this line at the top of the text file:

From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Mon Feb 19 23:57:14 2001

Then try the import again. That will fix it. (sorry - should have
remembered that).

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Re: TXT import

2001-07-18 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello Marck!

On Wednesday, July 18, 2001 at 3:46:38 PM you wrote:

 Then try the import again. That will fix it. (sorry - should have
 remembered that).

It worked, should have thought of it myself. But, well, with all what
happened the last 18 hours concerning my computer - with me ending up
to low-level-format one of my hard-drives (the primary partition with
my system!) -, I'm glad something works at all.

Thank you!

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TXT import

2001-07-17 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello TBUDL Members!

  Stupid(?) question:

  Is there a way to import messages saved in TXT files back into TB!?


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Re: TXT import

2001-07-17 Thread David van Zuijlekom

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Hello Dierk,

On Tuesday, July 17, 2001 at 17:40:41 +0200, Dierk Haasis [DH] wrote
concerning 'TXT import':

DH Is there a way to import messages saved in TXT files back into
DH TB!?

Hmmm... Does the txt file include the headers? If so you can import it
as Unix mailbox format.

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