Re: The Bat! and Exchange, a workaround

2016-08-25 Thread Thomas Parkhill 
hello,

I hesitate to take up space here; no one responded to my first (June
13) request for help perhaps because no one else is running The Bat!
with Exchange. But since I did find a work around, I thought I should
report it in case it helps someone. If you aren't interested in The
Bat! working (or not) with Exchange, or if you cannot abide emails
that post on the top of the old one, stop reading here.

As I wrote back in June, in order to get The Bat! to work with
Exchange I had to run Outlook at the same time:

> I have had some issues making TB! play nicely with Exchange, which
> is, as I said, used by my place of employment. I have never been
> able to use TB without using the Outlook profile. In Properties,
> under Transport, I use the "Existing profile" option. In addition, I
> have to have Outlook running (minimized on the desktop) for the TB
> to find what it needs to connect to the Exchange server.

On June 9 this arrangement stopped working. It started working again,
with one change, yesterday. The change is that I now need to run two
Outlook windows at the same time for The Bat! to work. That is, I open
one window, then open another, minimize both, start The Bat! and it
works as expected. I can also start The Bat! first, it doesn't seem to
matter.

I hope this helps anyone else still trying to get The Bat! to work
with Exchange. If anyone can figure out _why_ this works, I'd be
interested in knowing.

Thom Parkhill
[original message follows]

From: Thomas Parkhill 
To: tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com
Date: Monday, June 13, 2016, 9:49:52 PM
Subject: The Bat! and Exchange

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hello,

Recently (June 9 to be exact) TB!'s relationship with the Exchange
server where I work has ceased working. I have uninstalled TB! and
reinstalled it; I have not cleaned the registry. I have asked my
work's IT folks if the Exchange server was altered last Friday, but I
haven't received an answer. I think it has not because the IT person
who would have done any changes will be out of his office until
Tuesday. He would not have made changes and then left for a long
weekend. There may have been some big Windows 10 update done in the
background, but . . . well maybe.

I am wondering if anyone else has TB! running happily with Exchange
and if so, if you've had a similar experience.

If you are not trying to work with Exchange, you need not read further
unless you are curious.

I have had some issues making TB! play nicely with Exchange, which is,
as I said, used by my place of employment. I have never been able to
use TB without using the Outlook profile. In Properties, under
Transport, I use the "Existing profile" option. In addition, I have to
have Outlook running (minimized on the desktop) for the TB to find
what it needs to connect to the Exchange server. This has been the
case since version 6.xx whenever coexisting with Exchange became
possible. I am currently running version 7.1.18 with three accounts.
My two nonExchange accounts -- a local ISP account and my gmail
account -- work just fine.

Here's what the account log gives:

 2016-06-12, 08:52:48: SEND  - sending mail message(s) - 1 message(s) in queue
!2016-06-12, 08:52:49: SEND  - Cannot connect to the server. Error logging into 
MAPI subsystem.
 2016-06-12, 08:52:49: SEND  - connection finished - 0 message(s) sent
 2016-06-12, 08:52:49: SEND  - Some messages were not sent - check the log for 
details
 2016-06-12, 08:54:25: FETCH - receiving mail messages
 2016-06-12, 09:20:27: FETCH - receiving mail messages
!2016-06-12, 09:20:27: FETCH - Cannot connect to the server. Error logging into 
MAPI subsystem.
 2016-06-12, 09:20:27: FETCH - connection finished - 0 messages received
 2016-06-12, 09:20:35: FETCH - receiving mail messages
 2016-06-12, 09:59:18: FETCH - receiving mail messages
!2016-06-12, 09:59:18: FETCH - Cannot connect to the server. Error logging into 
MAPI subsystem.
 2016-06-12, 09:59:18: FETCH - connection finished - 0 messages received
 2016-06-12, 10:03:11: FETCH - receiving mail messages
 2016-06-12, 22:34:02: FETCH - receiving mail messages
!2016-06-12, 22:34:02: FETCH - Cannot connect to the server. Error logging into 
MAPI subsystem.
 2016-06-12, 22:34:02: FETCH - connection finished - 0 messages received
 2016-06-12, 22:38:02: FETCH - receiving mail messages
 2016-06-13, 10:40:25: FETCH - receiving mail messages
!2016-06-13, 10:40:25: FETCH - Cannot connect to the server. Error logging into 
MAPI subsystem.
 2016-06-13, 10:40:25: FETCH - connection finished - 0 messages received
 2016-06-13, 10:44:25: FETCH - receiving mail messages

Meanwhile Outlook on the same desktop machine is working just fine. I
am sending this email using it. TB! just stopped working sometime last
Thursday night. I'm at a loss as to why Outlook works but TB!, using
the same profile, can no longer seem to log into the "MAPI subsys

The Bat! and Exchange

2016-06-13 Thread Thomas Parkhill 
hello,

Recently (June 9 to be exact) TB!'s relationship with the Exchange server where 
I work has ceased working. I have uninstalled TB! and reinstalled it; I have 
not cleaned the registry. I have asked my work's IT folks if the Exchange 
server was altered last Friday, but I haven't received an answer. I think it 
has not because the IT person who would have done any changes will be out of 
his office until Tuesday. He would not have made changes and then left for a 
long weekend. There may have been some big Windows 10 update done in the 
background, but . . . well maybe.

I am wondering if anyone else has TB! running happily with Exchange and if so, 
if you've had a similar experience.

If you are not trying to work with Exchange, you need not read further unless 
you are curious.

I have had some issues making TB! play nicely with Exchange, which is, as I 
said, used by my place of employment. I have never been able to use TB without 
using the Outlook profile. In Properties, under Transport, I use the "Existing 
profile" option. In addition, I have to have Outlook running (minimized on the 
desktop) for the TB to find what it needs to connect to the Exchange server. 
This has been the case since version 6.xx whenever coexisting with Exchange 
became possible. I am currently running version 7.1.18 with three accounts. My 
two nonExchange accounts -- a local ISP account and my gmail account -- work 
just fine. 

Here's what the account log gives:

 2016-06-12, 08:52:48: SEND  - sending mail message(s) - 1 message(s) in queue
!2016-06-12, 08:52:49: SEND  - Cannot connect to the server. Error logging into 
MAPI subsystem.
 2016-06-12, 08:52:49: SEND  - connection finished - 0 message(s) sent
 2016-06-12, 08:52:49: SEND  - Some messages were not sent - check the log for 
details
 2016-06-12, 08:54:25: FETCH - receiving mail messages
 2016-06-12, 09:20:27: FETCH - receiving mail messages
!2016-06-12, 09:20:27: FETCH - Cannot connect to the server. Error logging into 
MAPI subsystem.
 2016-06-12, 09:20:27: FETCH - connection finished - 0 messages received
 2016-06-12, 09:20:35: FETCH - receiving mail messages
 2016-06-12, 09:59:18: FETCH - receiving mail messages
!2016-06-12, 09:59:18: FETCH - Cannot connect to the server. Error logging into 
MAPI subsystem.
 2016-06-12, 09:59:18: FETCH - connection finished - 0 messages received
 2016-06-12, 10:03:11: FETCH - receiving mail messages
 2016-06-12, 22:34:02: FETCH - receiving mail messages
!2016-06-12, 22:34:02: FETCH - Cannot connect to the server. Error logging into 
MAPI subsystem.
 2016-06-12, 22:34:02: FETCH - connection finished - 0 messages received
 2016-06-12, 22:38:02: FETCH - receiving mail messages
 2016-06-13, 10:40:25: FETCH - receiving mail messages
!2016-06-13, 10:40:25: FETCH - Cannot connect to the server. Error logging into 
MAPI subsystem.
 2016-06-13, 10:40:25: FETCH - connection finished - 0 messages received
 2016-06-13, 10:44:25: FETCH - receiving mail messages

Meanwhile Outlook on the same desktop machine is working just fine. I am 
sending this email using it. TB! just stopped working sometime last Thursday 
night. I'm at a loss as to why Outlook works but TB!, using the same profile, 
can no longer seem to log into the "MAPI subsystem." But then I wouldn't know a 
MAPI subsystem if one were sharing breakfast with me.

Any suggestions would be welcome.
Thanks,
Thom.

Thom Parkhill
New Brunswick
Canada

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Re[2]: [SOT]The Bat! and Exchange Server?

2000-10-18 Thread David Elliott 

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Hi Dieter,

On 15 October 2000 at 00:35:21 GMT +0200 Dieter Hummel
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about "The Bat! and Exchange Server?" and made
these points:

DH> Consider  an  email  environment in a large bank or assurance e.g.
DH> where  everything  relies  on  MS - do you /really/ think that you
DH> will  ever  be  able to throw out Exchange for MDaemon's sake? (or
DH> any other WIN based email-server). If they are not using nix based
DH> mailsystems there's no way neglecting MS Exchange.

Yes you can. I have set up an email system for a large charity (over
2000 users in 20 different sites through out the UK) using a non M$
mail system on a windows platform. OK it was not MDaemon.

(Yes I have seen Marck reply)

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Re: [SOT] The Bat! and Exchange Server?

2000-10-16 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone 

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Hi Dieter,

On 15 October 2000 at 00:35:21 GMT +0200 (which was 23:35 where I
live) Dieter Hummel wrote and made these points on the subject
of "The Bat! and Exchange Server?":

>> On a side note. If you have a choice of Mail servers go for Mdeamon
>> by Alt-N. I am just about to throw M$ Exchange out.

DH> Consider  an email environment in a large bank or assurance e.g. where
DH> everything  relies on MS - do you /really/ think that you will ever be
DH> able to throw out Exchange for MDaemon's sake? (or any other WIN based
DH> email-server). If they are not using *nix based mailsystems there's no
DH> way neglecting MS Exchange.

That's absolutely true but, OTOH, I don't know of any ISPs using MS
Exchange to serve end user accounts. I /do/ know of ISPs using MDaemon
for that purpose. It far more an industrial strength mail server than
exchange on that basis.

Of course, as David originally pointed out, it is the additional
Exchange features like global address books, push mail delivery and
fax support that stitch customers into the use of Exchange Server.

Still, let's not carry this too far OT. No more than a couple of
replies on this thread (if there's anything else that needs saying).
Okay?

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Re: The Bat! and Exchange Server?

2000-10-15 Thread Dieter Hummel 

Hello Listmembers,

On Sun, 15 Oct 2000 at 09:41:46 [GMT +0100] David Elliott wrote:

> On a side note. If you have a choice of Mail servers go for Mdeamon by
> Alt-N. I am just about to throw M$ Exchange out.

Consider  an email environment in a large bank or assurance e.g. where
everything  relies on MS - do you /really/ think that you will ever be
able to throw out Exchange for MDaemon's sake? (or any other WIN based
email-server). If they are not using *nix based mailsystems there's no
way neglecting MS Exchange.

Regards
Dieter (which uses MDaemon successfully since 3 years)

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Re: The Bat! and Exchange Server?

2000-10-15 Thread David Elliott 

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Hi Vincent,

On 13 October 2000 at 16:46:18 GMT +0200 Vincent - D. Ertner
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about "The Bat! and Exchange Server?" and made
these points:

VDE> does The Bat! integrate seamlessly into an M$ Exchange
VDE> environment or are there any drawbacks?

Define 'Seamlessly'.

I use it to collect and send mail via POP3 and SMTP. No problems.

However if you want to use things like the exchange Global Address
book as well as email pushed to you. The Bat! does not do that.

I don't think that this is a problem.

On a side note. If you have a choice of Mail servers go for Mdeamon by
Alt-N. I am just about to throw M$ Exchange out.

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Re: The Bat! and Exchange Server?

2000-10-14 Thread Thomas Fernandez 

Hallo Vincent,

On Fri, 13 Oct 2000 16:46:18 +0200 GMT (13/10/2000, 22:46 +0800 GMT),
Vincent - D. Ertner wrote:

VDE> does The Bat! integrate seamlessly into an M$ Exchange
VDE> environment or are there any drawbacks?

If you mean using TB as a client on a workstation on a LAN that runs
MS Exchange, it works in my office.

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The Bat! and Exchange Server?

2000-10-13 Thread Vincent - D. Ertner 

Hi Co-Batties,

does The Bat! integrate seamlessly into an M$ Exchange
environment or are there any drawbacks?

Cheers,

Vince



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