Re: Unnerving sigs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Karin On 20 June 2001 at 01:53:44 +0200 (which was 00:53 where I live) Karin Spaink wrote All too often I giggle because the - randomly appended - sig matches the subject matter all too closely, sometimes even too the point that I'd rather manually select another sig in order to escape possible accusations that I was adding insult to injury / was giving a bland summary / etc. I was finding that as well (from a file of 270,000) so I changed most of them to tribbles with just a few others , and it still happens. Look below (not fixed) g - -- Best regards, ___ David |MUA- The 1, The Only, The Bat! | E-mailaholics | _| Win 2K Adv Ser 5.0.2195 SP2 | International | | Wow, How descriptive.. What tags are you looking for! There | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt (Build 06) Comment: PGP Signed, sealed, delivered. iQA/AwUBOzBE+PmK8eZlD0U0EQL4TQCgzrvxap33fC0piyXl7sEbgN7d9o8Ani8D 33dxH1SMvPjhSpQgKbRaN8qF =vdcP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unnerving sigs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello David! On Wednesday, June 20, 2001 at 8:38:42 AM you wrote: I was finding that as well (from a file of 270,000) so I changed most of them to tribbles with just a few others , and it still happens. Look below (not fixed) g I don't want to open the discussion on randomising again, Maxxx, Stefan and others had this already. But here's something Karin herself mentioned: We tend to have tag lines based upon our own experiences and characters. We even attribute them connotations others may not see. Since I can't actually see why RITLabs should put a very difficult semantical matcher into its code, I think it is pure coincidence together with poor choice (just look up my signatures!) in our cookie files and perception. Just think of it, how often will you remember a perfectly harmless tag line? And how often will you remember the one that you don't find appropriate? The problem with human perception especially when coincidence is involved is that we try as hard as we can to find a pattern. The German language knows one word for the English random and coincidence: Zufall. The second English word shows how we treat random incidents happening to us, it implies a kind of pattern (co-). BTW, although the author of the below tag line is a good friend of mine and although I really like his wisdom, I did not choose this specific sentence by him for this thread. And if I did not write it here, you may not even have noticed it. - -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.53d Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Be contend with what you get, and what you get will be contend with you. (Derek Leveret) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBOzBAH/To1oA8g8dLEQLRsACcDGxg6R3qteFPFoIUTwy/ie1dqnMAoJ6j etRyNgHg2b0LDN3Rl079BWqX =eA9r -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unnerving sigs
Hi Dierk, On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:17:44 +0200GMT (20/06/2001, 15:17 +0800GMT), Dierk Haasis wrote: and it still happens. Look below (not fixed) g DH Since I can't actually see why RITLabs should put a very difficult DH semantical matcher into its code, I think it is pure coincidence You don't know the basics of a good and healthy paranoia. DH The problem with human perception especially when coincidence is DH involved is that we try as hard as we can to find a pattern. I disagree. I don't need to try hard. And I don't think my perception is a problem. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas (safely without cookies on the office machine) Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unnerving sigs
Hello Dierk, On Wednesday, June 20, 2001 at 10:39:09 AM you wrote (at least in part): DH Oh, I thought about that line and wrote it before I saw my random tag DH line ... Now, what does that mean? sorry for jumping in *g* ... maybe it does mean you're influenced without noticing. Maybe not TB! is choosing the taglines regarding to the subject, but we're choosing our subject and texts regarding to the unnoticed influence of our taglines? *ggg* -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.53bis on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) Those students who have become one with the universe will be allowed to go on and become two with the universe. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unnerving sigs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Karin! On Wednesday, June 20, 2001 at 3:48:53 PM you wrote: Uhm, I didn't speak against it. Actually, I love these quotes that match content. And my original question was mostly meant as entertainment for the list. So we were all the time on the right track. and I thought I was way out of line ... g Talking about upsetting people that you care about, look what TB came up with this time: Yeah, that ones good; he's as good under his correct name as under his pen name Dan Kavanagh. - -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.53d Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Ernährung ist tödlich! Jeder, der sich lange genug ernährt, ist bislang gestorben. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBOzCpDPTo1oA8g8dLEQI5zACfTsLe/RTevCkzxIx/y4jgNSs3LjcAoNYX o+Z9yfhO90d/0LYLOAGPhrr4 =NpK/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unnerving sigs
This has been bothering me for quite some time: I have taken the time and effort to build quite a large collection of quotes that I like and love, and most of the short ones have by now found their way into my cookie file, and are thus randomly appended under my mail. Randomly? Really? All too often I wonder. All too often I giggle because the - randomly appended - sig matches the subject matter all too closely, sometimes even too the point that I'd rather manually select another sig in order to escape possible accusations that I was adding insult to injury / was giving a bland summary / etc. I *do* understand that I select my sigs myself, and that thus they will reflect upon me. But I do wonder about coincidence. How often does it happen that somebody mails you out of the blue about suicide, you respond, and TB happens to select a sig that relates to suicide? In my case, that happens two out of three times. Really, it is unnerving. I have a collection of 100+ cookies and TB selects an appropriate one more often than is called for. I'm starting to suspect some kind of NSA paradigm at the heart of TB, or telepathy, or whatever. Anyway, I *am* unnerved. And of course, *this* time TB chose an innocent one just to disprove me. I am freaking out. - K - -- Biographies rely on butch criteria: a life is plotted according to the markers of death, marriage, professional appointment, murder and military campaigns. - Alain de Botton: Kiss Tell -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Unnerving sigs
On 20-06-2001 at 02:15, andrew kindly wrote: Hi Karin, KS And of course, *this* time TB chose an innocent one just to KS disprove me. I am freaking out. 'even paranoids have enemies' ;-) Maybe it is all a conspiracy just to drive you insane I simply replied to you, just for testing purposes, and see what happens? Look down and read my sig: - K - ;-) -- Conformity or rebellion? Neither one. Both ways are simple-minded - they are only for people who cannot cope with contradiction and ambiguity. - Neil Stephenson: The Diamond Age -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Unnerving sigs
Hi Karin, On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 01:53:44 +0200GMT (20/06/2001, 07:53 +0800GMT), Karin Spaink wrote: KS Randomly? Really? All too often I wonder. All too often I KS giggle because the - randomly appended - sig matches the KS subject matter all too closely, I confirm this. (No, I don't use cookies on this office computer, but at home.) I challenged Maxxx to run a test on the theroy of the cookies being chosen in relation to the contents (or subject) of a mail, as he critised the randomiser than randomises in a non-mathematical way. I am still waiting for the results. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53bis under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
