Re: Version chaos
> Look for *.ADR files in your Opera directory. I had the same problem. > For some reason Opera stopped using my opera5.adr file and suddenly > started using an opera6.adr file. When I renamed 5 to 6, everything > was fine, or was it the other way around. Make backup copies first. > The bigger file is the one you need. The file used is defined in an > INI file. Thanks. I found them and imported the bookmarks. Sandy Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Version chaos
> If you've reinstalled O6.02 over your old installation then I doubt if > you've replaced the original bookmarks file. You will need to import > it back into O. The file to import is Opera6.adr > If you've done an uninstall and then a fresh install, then you've > lost it I guess :-( > With best wishes, Dave, Thanks so much I found my bookmarks and imported them. Sandy Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Version chaos
s> I can't seem to find my bookmarks (any hints how to find s> them?) Look for *.ADR files in your Opera directory. I had the same problem. For some reason Opera stopped using my opera5.adr file and suddenly started using an opera6.adr file. When I renamed 5 to 6, everything was fine, or was it the other way around. Make backup copies first. The bigger file is the one you need. The file used is defined in an INI file. -- Best regards, John Thomas Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Version chaos
Hi Sandy, Sunday, May 26, 2002, 5:56:01 PM, you wrote: s> I was running running Opera and The Bat at the same time and my s> skin and bookmarks also disappeared. Last night I downloaded Opera s> 6.02 and it's ok. I can't seem to find my bookmarks (any hints s> how to find them?) If you've reinstalled O6.02 over your old installation then I doubt if you've replaced the original bookmarks file. You will need to import it back into O. The file to import is Opera6.adr If you've done an uninstall and then a fresh install, then you've lost it I guess :-( With best wishes, Dave -- David Conroy MSW Consultant, Trainer & Management Coach International Coach Federation, ID 1006660 Voluntary sector support: http://www.coaching-lab.com Coaching via e-mail: http://www.e-coaching-only.com Coaching for women: http://www.womens-life-coach.com Web development/hosting: http://www.turnkey-coach.com ICQ 127865569 Phone/Fax +44 (0)1225 314694 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Version chaos
> Had a strange experience a few days ago when I was surfing with Opera > and I checked my mail in TB! at the same time > I went back to Opera and my skin had disappeared (on Opera, not my own > - LOL) and then a few minutes later I went to access my bookmarks and > they were all gone. They were still in the Opera folder but not > recognized. Hi Dave, I was running running Opera and The Bat at the same time and my skin and bookmarks also disappeared. Last night I downloaded Opera 6.02 and it's ok I can't seem to find my bookmarks (any hints how to find them?) Sandy Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Version chaos
ON Saturday, May 25, 2002, 4:15:42 PM, you wrote: LT> In the middle of this I migrated from an NT4 machine to a Win3kPro LT> machine, but that had no positive effect either. ^ Hi Lynn, I found your problem, your ahead of time ;-) -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Hofstadter's Law - It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take Hofstadter's Law into account. Using The Bat! v1.60i on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Version chaos
Friday, May 24, 2002, 9:37:46 AM, you wrote: [snip] DC> Also, Opera seems more flaky that usual, but also able to access sites DC> that I used to have problems with. Anyone have similar flakiness issue DC> with Opera since 6.02? Yes. I found version 6 to be kind of flakey, in that it crashes on some site loads, and won't load the number of sites it used to without problems. I dl'ed 6.02 in hopes of fixing this, but no luck. In the middle of this I migrated from an NT4 machine to a Win3kPro machine, but that had no positive effect either. I was running TB 1.53 when this started, upgraded to 1.60h after the migration. I think I'll give 1.60m a miss, though I did put it on my husband's machine in trying to fix a different glitch there. He's not a heavy user, so I don't expect him to have problems; he's also not using Opera. FWIW, I don't think it's TB causing the Opera problem, but I suppose anything's possible. Ciao, Lynn DC> With best wishes, DC> Dave -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.sites.onlinemac.com/hawthorne/ Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Version chaos
Hi Dierk, Saturday, May 25, 2002, 8:50:42 AM, you wrote: >> Also, Opera seems more flaky that usual, but also able to access sites >> that I used to have problems with. Anyone have similar flakiness issue >> with Opera since 6.02? DH> I didn't ever had any problems during the last months, when I betaed DH> Opera 6.xx. But there have been reports - very few - that Opera could DH> need a complete re-install after an un-install to be stable on certain DH> systems. Had a strange experience a few days ago when I was surfing with Opera and I checked my mail in TB! at the same time I went back to Opera and my skin had disappeared (on Opera, not my own - LOL) and then a few minutes later I went to access my bookmarks and they were all gone. They were still in the Opera folder but not recognized. Anyway, I downloaded a new copy of 6.02 and reinstalled and then found my old bookmarks and installed them. All has been fine since. As it turned out, I found a nice new skin too ... minimalist, or something. Very small icons and stylish looking. It's been about 18 hours since my last sudden reboot, so am hoping that my system has cured itself! Weird. With best wishes, Dave -- David Conroy MSW Consultant, Trainer & Management Coach International Coach Federation, ID 1006660 Voluntary sector support: http://www.coaching-lab.com Coaching via e-mail: http://www.e-coaching-only.com Coaching for women: http://www.womens-life-coach.com Web development/hosting: http://www.turnkey-coach.com ICQ 127865569 Phone/Fax +44 (0)1225 314694 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Version chaos
Hello Dave! On Friday, May 24, 2002 at 6:37:46 PM you wrote: > Also, Opera seems more flaky that usual, but also able to access sites > that I used to have problems with. Anyone have similar flakiness issue > with Opera since 6.02? I didn't ever had any problems during the last months, when I betaed Opera 6.xx. But there have been reports - very few - that Opera could need a complete re-install after an un-install to be stable on certain systems. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.60m on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Yes, *you* can make a difference. You just have to *do* something ... anything. (Derek Leveret) Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[3]: Version chaos
Saturday, 25 May 2002 Hi RapidFX, On Fri, 24 May 2002, at 16:47:08 [GMT -0800] (which was 12:47 p.m. here in Eastbourne, N.Z.) you wrote: R> I can confirm "issues" with 1.60m and XP. R> flaky is about the correct description also :) R> Seems leaving Bat! open for lengths of time over 1-2 hours R> or so, creates a bit of havoc with my system. No problems here and in fact I tend to leave TB going all the time. I have found though that XP needs lost of memory..I have 512MB of RAM. -- Regards, Chris Feel good? Don't worry; you'll get over it! Using The Bat! 1.60m E-Mail System with Windows XP Pro. Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Version chaos
Hello... I was reluctant to even post this, but after a few days now, and reading others posts, I believe there is something, but I am not really sure what, so it's kind of a waste to post but, oh well! Friday, May 24, 2002, 5:01:29 PM, you wrote: >> I can confirm "issues" with 1.60m and XP. >> flaky is about the correct description also :) JA> LOL... Then I'm glad I didn't upgrade from 1.60c this morning. I'll hold off JA> for a bit. XP is an issue on it's own... I don't want to add to my mail client JA> too. :)) -- Greg S. Wirth System Administrator Anchorage, Alaska Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Re[2]: Version chaos
Hi RapidFX, On Fri, 24 May 2002 16:47:08 -0800, you wrote: > Hello... > I can confirm "issues" with 1.60m and XP. > flaky is about the correct description also :) > Seems leaving Bat! open for lengths of time over 1-2 hours > or so, creates a bit of havoc with my system. > "flaky" being applications freezing or otherwise becoming unstable. > This does not seem to happen to The Bat! program though, only other > programs running at the time. This may be just "luck" so far. > I am up to date on all XP patches. > BUT, WinXP is a flaky OS anyway, so this doesn't surprise me. LOL... Then I'm glad I didn't upgrade from 1.60c this morning. I'll hold off for a bit. XP is an issue on it's own... I don't want to add to my mail client too. :)) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Version chaos
Hello... I can confirm "issues" with 1.60m and XP. flaky is about the correct description also :) Seems leaving Bat! open for lengths of time over 1-2 hours or so, creates a bit of havoc with my system. "flaky" being applications freezing or otherwise becoming unstable. This does not seem to happen to The Bat! program though, only other programs running at the time. This may be just "luck" so far. I am up to date on all XP patches. BUT, WinXP is a flaky OS anyway, so this doesn't surprise me. Friday, May 24, 2002, 3:32:09 PM, you wrote: DC>> A little unstable, tends to freeze up more than I remember the DC>> previous version doing so. ACM> Version 6.02 is actually quite solid on my system here. I'm impressed ACM> with it so far. ACM> I doubt very much that TB! is the problem there though. To eliminate ACM> the GDI problem you can use the fixed width viewer and see how things -- Greg S. Wirth System Administrator Anchorage, Alaska Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Version chaos
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dave Conroy [DC] wrote: ... ACM>> What OS are you running? DC> Win2K I've had GDI problems in Win2k and the application would crash, not Win2k. I don't have any solutions except trying to run the system with nothing else running except the bare minimum and see if that makes a difference. It may turn out that the problem is something you didn't suspect. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60m | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE87tibV8nrYCsHF+IRAt7QAJ9BuDFfX3TQ+bH22l7F4KjxW1vXGQCgi+1y bL91TdnuoUk8uLBLWuQXguo= =gpd+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Version chaos
Hi Allie, Saturday, May 25, 2002, 12:32:09 AM, you wrote: ACM> What OS are you running? Win2K With best wishes, Dave -- David Conroy MSW Consultant, Trainer & Management Coach International Coach Federation, ID 1006660 Voluntary sector support: http://www.coaching-lab.com Coaching via e-mail: http://www.e-coaching-only.com Coaching for women: http://www.womens-life-coach.com Web development/hosting: http://www.turnkey-coach.com ICQ 127865569 Phone/Fax +44 (0)1225 314694 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Version chaos
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dave Conroy [DC] wrote: ... DC> A little unstable, tends to freeze up more than I remember the DC> previous version doing so. Version 6.02 is actually quite solid on my system here. I'm impressed with it so far. ACM>> As to your other problem, I really don't have a clue. It would ACM>> be nice to be able to restore your registry from before you ACM>> uninstalled Netscape. Do you have any backups? DC> No registry back ups, only documents! Uho! You may very well be in for a reinstall or you could try installing over your current system. I doubt very much that TB! is the problem there though. To eliminate the GDI problem you can use the fixed width viewer and see how things go. What OS are you running? - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60m | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE87s15V8nrYCsHF+IRAhkaAKDTxsUDtD0IvAvVn1yjBmtaS4PXYwCg19zR KpKAXCs3+kwe/5AWUC8Nc8A= =h2vc -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Version chaos
Hi Allie, Friday, May 24, 2002, 6:18:12 PM, you wrote: ACM> Flaky is a vague word. What do you mean by it? A little unstable, tends to freeze up more than I remember the previous version doing so. ACM> As to your other problem, I really don't have a clue. It would be nice ACM> to be able to restore your registry from before you uninstalled ACM> Netscape. Do you have any backups? No registry back ups, only documents! With best wishes, Dave -- David Conroy MSW Consultant, Trainer & Management Coach International Coach Federation, ID 1006660 Voluntary sector support: http://www.coaching-lab.com Coaching via e-mail: http://www.e-coaching-only.com Coaching for women: http://www.womens-life-coach.com Web development/hosting: http://www.turnkey-coach.com ICQ 127865569 Phone/Fax +44 (0)1225 314694 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Version chaos
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dave Conroy [DC] wrote: ... DC> Also, Opera seems more flaky that usual, but also able to access DC> sites that I used to have problems with. Anyone have similar DC> flakiness issue with Opera since 6.02? Flaky is a vague word. What do you mean by it? As to your other problem, I really don't have a clue. It would be nice to be able to restore your registry from before you uninstalled Netscape. Do you have any backups? - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60m | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE87nXUV8nrYCsHF+IRAr8cAKDJws/LAfD7b6RivmoMKyDlD8+oOACfRYtq bWUyJeKezNArS5FnQ3eWqe8= =sBoj -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Version chaos
I have updated a few things recently, including TB! to 1.60m, Netscape to 7 and Opera to 6.02. I have now taken Netscape off incase it was cause of problem below. My hitherto very reliable machine is suddenly without warning totally shutting down and rebooting ... no error message, just switch off, black screen, reboot!! Very strange. Would TB! memory leak problem cause this? If so, which version can/should I go back to without any hassle? Also, Opera seems more flaky that usual, but also able to access sites that I used to have problems with. Anyone have similar flakiness issue with Opera since 6.02? With best wishes, Dave -- David Conroy MSW Consultant, Trainer & Management Coach International Coach Federation, ID 1006660 Voluntary sector support: http://www.coaching-lab.com Coaching via e-mail: http://www.e-coaching-only.com Coaching for women: http://www.womens-life-coach.com Web development/hosting: http://www.turnkey-coach.com ICQ 127865569 Phone/Fax +44 (0)1225 314694 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Version chaos
Hello MikeM, On Friday, May 24, 2002 at 3:56:38 PM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): M> Ouch. Since NT4, the GDI functionality of Windows NT has been running M> at ring 0. Not the best of places to have a memory leak. You bet :-) But thank god it's not worst case with The Bat! at the moment, as at least global application garbage collection works when terminating it normally. So the leak is only persistent when TB! runs, which at least avoids the system reboot :-) -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.60j on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) How many angels can dance on the head of a pin? It depends on the tune Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Version chaos
On 5/24/2002 at 3:37 AM Marck D Pearlstone wrote: >Hi Wayne, > >@24 May 2002, 19:15:45 -0700 (03:15 UK time) Wayne Black wrote in >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> What is a GDI leak > >Graphic Device Interface resources are things like window handles, >brushes, fonts and pens. Programs allocate and release these from the >Windows system as they go. A leak is when resources are not released >correctly. = Ouch. Since NT4, the GDI functionality of Windows NT has been running at ring 0. Not the best of places to have a memory leak. Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Version chaos
Hello Marck! On Friday, May 24, 2002 at 12:06:51 PM you wrote: > And Win2k users using the RTV. Funny, considering that the first time we had a resource/memory handling problem around it was only us poor 9x users ... For now - using RTV since the leak was filled - I can't find any problems concerning TB! 1.60k and GDI; GDI still shows 75% and all in all 39 handles are used by TB!. OTOH, I don't have such elaborate apps to check it as you, only TaskInfo (a Russian programme). -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.60m on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C There are four essential things in the world: Life, Truth, Freedom, Love. From them stems everything, and none of them is superior to the others. (Derek Leveret) Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Version chaos
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, May 24, 2002, 6:42 AM, you wrote: MDP>>> Specifically, the Rich Text View (RTV) in 1.60m suffers from a MDP>>> resource leak. The version is perfectly stable when using the MDP>>> PTV or when using the RTV for short periods (and exiting TB). >> ok, I couldn't find it in the HELP ndex, how do I change this ??? MDP> "Options | Preferences | Viewer | View messages using ..." I have it set to fixed-width font ( fast). rich text is not selected. I still had a lockup the other day and TB was running at the time, BUT, I was doing "other" things I can't remember and it doesn't matter, oh yeah, I was downloading OpenOffice. Getright picked right back where it left off ;) / Paul Using The Bat! v1.60m on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBPO4dUz3ZlJQqDEkFEQJzyACg0fh/MGefsb7a6ajMnk3puAqlMMkAoIwQ aqEwigrAo7GhwYXa8e/jpJ+w =dd4C -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Version chaos
I have updated a few things recently, including TB! 1.60m, Netscape 7 and Opera 6.02. I have now taken Netscape off. My hitherto very reliable machine is suddenly without warning totally shutting down and rebooting ... no error message, just switch off, black screen, reboot!! Very strange. Would TB! memory leak problem cause this? If so, which version can/should I go back to without any hassle? With best wishes, Dave -- David Conroy MSW Consultant, Trainer & Management Coach International Coach Federation, ID 1006660 Voluntary sector support: http://www.coaching-lab.com Coaching via e-mail: http://www.e-coaching-only.com Coaching for women: http://www.womens-life-coach.com Web development/hosting: http://www.turnkey-coach.com ICQ 127865569 Phone/Fax +44 (0)1225 314694 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Version chaos
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Paul, @24 May 2002, 06:20:19 -0400 (11:20 UK time) Paul Cartwright wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP>> Specifically, the Rich Text View (RTV) in 1.60m suffers from a MDP>> resource leak. The version is perfectly stable when using the MDP>> PTV or when using the RTV for short periods (and exiting TB). > ok, I couldn't find it in the HELP ndex, how do I change this ??? "Options | Preferences | Viewer | View messages using ..." - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60m-14F4B4B2 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt build 08 iQA/AwUBPO4ZITnkJKuSnc2gEQLVswCgjUoFXiBYJjohHVhJ74SJRt+Ag3MAn252 0nSQjh+N6bm0XiEWvOA5b9bP =VXb4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Version chaos
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, May 23, 2002, 10:37 PM, you wrote: >> and does 1.60m have this? MDP> Specifically, the Rich Text View (RTV) in 1.60m suffers from a MDP> resource leak. The version is perfectly stable when using the PTV or MDP> when using the RTV for short periods (and exiting TB). ok, I couldn't find it in the HELP ndex, how do I change this ??? / Paul Using The Bat! v1.60m on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBPO4T4z3ZlJQqDEkFEQKtUwCeNCq9HAvjgD3tbZZu97rn/QBTc1MAoIrV s2iCVBijrF8BNQRwXabvYu2J =Epx7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Version chaos
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, May 24, 2002, 2:30 AM, you wrote: DH> There seem to have been a few problems with certain set ups on certain DH> systems, mostly S/MIME related, that have been addressed by quick DH> hot-fixes - the alphabetised 1.60 versions. DH> While "m" seems to have gotten rid of all those buglets, it seems to DH> have introduced this resource leak. although I haven't seen it on my DH> computer, yet. And all reports that I have seen seem to be from XP DH> users. I missed that, WHAT LEAK ? I have XP. I have had my computer lock up on me, just the other day actually. / Paul Using The Bat! v1.60m on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBPO4SIz3ZlJQqDEkFEQL4/wCfcbEF6jP0a4ixhRyDG490eShfdgMAoKey m0VMA0EX/9b2EBkLGAPS7Es6 =x3Zo -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Version chaos
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Dierk, @24 May 2002, 08:30:09 +0200 (07:30 UK time) Dierk Haasis wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ... And all reports that I have seen seem to be from XP users. And Win2k users using the RTV. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60m-14F4B4B2 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt build 08 iQA/AwUBPO4QvDnkJKuSnc2gEQImmwCg/dB1XGwGc4wgJDbIc1tqq05lplYAoONV tfCPilID7hAJq3zlc40bT5l9 =nhwb -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Version chaos
Hello Kai! On Thursday, May 23, 2002 at 9:59:07 PM you wrote: > I am somewhat confused with regard to Ritlabs' current TB release > policy. Right now, there are so many updates/bugfixes for 1.60 that I > have no clue which version to use. And once again: There seem to have been a few problems with certain set ups on certain systems, mostly S/MIME related, that have been addressed by quick hot-fixes - the alphabetised 1.60 versions. While "m" seems to have gotten rid of all those buglets, it seems to have introduced this resource leak. although I haven't seen it on my computer, yet. And all reports that I have seen seem to be from XP users. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.60k on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it. (George Bernard Shaw) Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Version chaos
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Wayne, @24 May 2002, 19:15:45 -0700 (03:15 UK time) Wayne Black wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > What is a GDI leak Graphic Device Interface resources are things like window handles, brushes, fonts and pens. Programs allocate and release these from the Windows system as they go. A leak is when resources are not released correctly. > and does 1.60m have this? Specifically, the Rich Text View (RTV) in 1.60m suffers from a resource leak. The version is perfectly stable when using the PTV or when using the RTV for short periods (and exiting TB). - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60m-14F4B4B2 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt build 08 iQA/AwUBPO2nbznkJKuSnc2gEQK9FQCfeE/G9u/BfWCinynvHhJHVfkoBaIAoPpS s1Td7JvYY1pkMvTWeQ6s5MHg =iH+y -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Version chaos
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday, May 23, 2002 7:02 PM GMT -0800 (PST) Hello Kai, This is a reply to your message dated Thursday, May 23, 2002, 12:59:07 PM, when you wrote: KG> of TB, version 1.60d is the best, most stable, must bugfree - KG> whatever. That's why he has designated it to be the official KG> version of the German TB distribution package. According to KG> Ritlabs, however, What *is* the best, most stable, bug free version? I have not had any problems with 1.60m yet. KG> 1.60m must be the version to go with. Having read that that KG> version supposedly has a GDI leak, I cannot believe that Ritlabs KG> would offer such a version to new users, hell, even old hands and KG> make it available for download on their official site. What's the KG> deal? What is a GDI leak and does 1.60m have this? It's so hard to know which version to stay with, they are changing so fast. I have been a registered TheBat! user for almost two years now. I know we are heading towards v2.xx but things have been moving pretty fast the last few weeks. It is just a little confusing. Thanks for all advice and feedback. - -- Wayne Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key ID: 0xAE34E6E7 Using TheBat! 1.60m With Windows 98se 4.10 PGP key available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=SendPGPKey -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt Key ID: 0xAE34E6E7 iQA/AwUBPO2iZWcRgL2uNObnEQLZBQCcCFC+Qf1B30sy2VJhsObRxZdkUD4AoIK/ diDSoE8M22UoFPyTPfxk3rrh =ePKC -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Version chaos
Hi: I am somewhat confused with regard to Ritlabs' current TB release policy. Right now, there are so many updates/bugfixes for 1.60 that I have no clue which version to use. According to the German distributor of TB, version 1.60d is the best, most stable, must bugfree - whatever. That's why he has designated it to be the official version of the German TB distribution package. According to Ritlabs, however, 1.60m must be the version to go with. Having read that that version supposedly has a GDI leak, I cannot believe that Ritlabs would offer such a version to new users, hell, even old hands and make it available for download on their official site. What's the deal? So long, Kai TB 1.60d Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com