Won't check for new messages automatically
Hello, Bat users, Well, I finally gave in to my Bat fantasies and registered this software. I'm basically a mailer collector, being the proud registered owner of Datula, EdMax, DinoX, King of Mail, Akira32Gold and other obscure programs (all reviewed on my Web site). But I've always had a place in my heart for The Bat. The main problem being that it doesn't do Japanese. So I arranged to have all Japanese mail sent to a different account, and use The Bat for the rest. Now to my problem. I've got three accounts set up, and have set two of them to check for new messages automatically every few minutes. I have a permanent Internet connection, so no dialup problems, but for some reason The Bat won't check for new mail automatically. I have to do so manually. I can't find any setting that would affect this behavior. It doesn't matter whether the Mail Ticker is open or not. What am I missing? -- Yours, John De Hoog, Tokyo http://wonmug.com -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Won't check for new messages automatically
Hallo John, On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 22:21:55 +0900 GMT (27.01.2000, 21:21 +0800 GMT), John De Hoog wrote: JDH always had a place in my heart for The Bat. The main problem being JDH that it doesn't do Japanese. So I arranged to have all Japanese mail JDH sent to a different account, and use The Bat for the rest. Mine does Chinese. Do you have a Japanese Windows? In that case, it should display the Japanese characters. Otherwise, TB still has a problem with CJK, but I hope that Unicode will be in the upcoming version 2 ("it will be ready in six months"). JDH Now to my problem. I've got three accounts set up, and have set two JDH of them to check for new messages automatically every few minutes. JDH I have a permanent Internet connection, so no dialup problems, but JDH for some reason The Bat won't check for new mail automatically. I JDH have to do so manually. I can't find any setting that would affect JDH this behavior. OK, try: Options/Network Administration and check whether the tickbox "No automatic dial" is checked. -- Cheers, Thomas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.39 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Won't check for new messages automatically
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 22:21:55 +0900, John De Hoog wrote: ==8 Now to my problem. I've got three accounts set up, and have set two of them to check for new messages automatically every few minutes. I have a permanent Internet connection, so no dialup problems, but for some reason The Bat won't check for new mail automatically. I have to do so manually. I can't find any setting that would affect this behavior. It doesn't matter whether the Mail Ticker is open or not. If you setup the periodic checking using Account|Properties|Options| 'periodic checking each...', and also have it setup for *each* account then I don't know what the problem is since there are no other settings available for manipulating this function. -- -=Allie=- | Using The Bat! v1.39 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Windows NT4.0 (Service Pack 6) --- [ A paperless office has about as much chance as a paperless bathroom. ] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Won't check for new messages automatically
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:46:19 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote: ==8 JDH Now to my problem. I've got three accounts set up, and have set two JDH of them to check for new messages automatically every few minutes. JDH I have a permanent Internet connection, so no dialup problems, but JDH for some reason The Bat won't check for new mail automatically. I JDH have to do so manually. I can't find any setting that would affect JDH this behavior. OK, try: Options/Network Administration and check whether the tickbox "No automatic dial" is checked. That shouldn't have anything to do with his problem since he has a constant/permanent connection to the internet. -- -=Allie=- | Using The Bat! v1.39 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Windows NT4.0 (Service Pack 6) --- [ Gambling: The sure way of getting nothing for something. ] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Won't check for new messages automatically
Hallo Allie, On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:05:15 -0500 GMT (27.01.2000, 22:05 +0800 GMT), Allie Martin wrote: AM That shouldn't have anything to do with his problem since he has a AM constant/permanent connection to the internet. Right. John, can you activate the dial-up monitor (Options/Show Dial-Up Monitor/Show always) and check whether TB knows that you are connected? -- Cheers, Thomas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.39 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Won't check for new messages automatically
Hi John, Thursday, January 27, 2000, 1:21:55 PM, you wrote: JDH Well, I finally gave in to my Bat fantasies and registered this JDH software. I'm basically a mailer collector, being the proud JDH registered owner of Datula, EdMax, DinoX, King of Mail, Akira32Gold JDH and other obscure programs (all reviewed on my Web site). Checked out Datula from the link on your site, very nice MUA, just need to learn Japanese now:-) Do you know if they plan an English interface? -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.39 under Windows 98 4 10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Won't check for new messages automatically
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 22:16:55 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote: ==8 AM That shouldn't have anything to do with his problem since he has a AM constant/permanent connection to the internet. Right. John, can you activate the dial-up monitor (Options/Show Dial-Up Monitor/Show always) and check whether TB knows that you are connected? Uhm. If he successfully does a manual download of his mail and is able to send mail then I'd think TB! knows about his connection. Right? :) -- -=Allie=- | Using The Bat! v1.39 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Windows NT4.0 (Service Pack 6) --- [ If you don't like the news, go out and make some of your own. ] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Won't check for new messages automatically
Morning John De Hoog, Now to my problem. I've got three accounts set up, and have set two of them to check for new messages automatically every few minutes. I have a permanent Internet connection, so no dialup problems, but for some reason The Bat won't check for new mail automatically. I have to do so manually. I can't find any setting that would affect this behavior. What are the setting is your Options|NetworkAdministration window? It's a wild guess, but since you have a permanent connection it might help if you set it to "LAN or manual connection" is it isn't. -- .. Jast . mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :with The Bat! 1.41 / Beta1 http://www.zz-s.de :on Windows 98 4.10 Build A AIM jasticle:... -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Won't check for new messages automatically
Hello Thomas Fernandez, On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:46:19 +0800 GMT your local time, which was Thursday, January 27, 2000, 8:46:19 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Hallo John, On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 22:21:55 +0900 GMT (27.01.2000, 21:21 +0800 GMT), John De Hoog wrote: JDH always had a place in my heart for The Bat. The main problem being JDH that it doesn't do Japanese. So I arranged to have all Japanese mail JDH sent to a different account, and use The Bat for the rest. Mine does Chinese. Do you have a Japanese Windows? In that case, it should display the Japanese characters. Otherwise, TB still has a problem with CJK, but I hope that Unicode will be in the upcoming version 2 ("it will be ready in six months"). Thomas, my system does chinese... under English 2000 -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.41 / Beta1 with Windows NT mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using FireTalk: 321338 ICQ: on request Website: www.phuketcomputers.com -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Won't check for new messages automatically
Hello John De Hoog, On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 22:21:55 +0900 GMT your local time, which was Thursday, January 27, 2000, 8:21:55 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, John De Hoog wrote: Hello, Bat users, Well, I finally gave in to my Bat fantasies and registered this software. I'm basically a mailer collector, being the proud registered owner of Datula, EdMax, DinoX, King of Mail, Akira32Gold and other obscure programs (all reviewed on my Web site). But I've always had a place in my heart for The Bat. The main problem being that it doesn't do Japanese. So I arranged to have all Japanese mail sent to a different account, and use The Bat for the rest. I think under windows 2000 it will do japanese... It does chinese even if I cannot read it If you can send me some Japanese I can read it with the japanese fonts snapshot them and send them back to see if it IS japanese... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.41 / Beta1 with Windows NT mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using FireTalk: 321338 ICQ: on request Website: www.phuketcomputers.com -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Won't check for new messages automatically
Hello, fellow Bat-lovers. On Thursday, 27 January, 2000, 6:46:19 AM, Thomas wrote: Hallo John, On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 22:21:55 +0900 GMT (27.01.2000, 21:21 +0800 GMT), John De Hoog wrote: JDH always had a place in my heart for The Bat. The main problem being JDH that it doesn't do Japanese. So I arranged to have all Japanese mail JDH sent to a different account, and use The Bat for the rest. Mine does Chinese. Do you have a Japanese Windows? In that case, it should display the Japanese characters. Or have you tried it with third-party display software, such as NJStar or UnionWay? I've done my testing mostly with Korean, but I'm pretty sure I saw it working with Japanese and Chinese at one point. The Bat still has definitely problems with CJK. For example, you can't change the font, and the headers are mangled, but viewing seems to work. Otherwise, TB still has a problem with CJK, but I hope that Unicode will be in the upcoming version 2 ("it will be ready in six months"). Unicode will make it possible to communicate in CJK IF your correspondents are using Unicode and it's supported by your OS I hope the developers will also support the older encodings in version 2. -- Keith Russell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Won't check for new messages automatically
Hello, fellow Bat-lovers. On Thursday, 27 January, 2000, 7:35:11 AM, Mark wrote: Hi John, Thursday, January 27, 2000, 1:21:55 PM, you wrote: JDH Well, I finally gave in to my Bat fantasies and registered this JDH software. I'm basically a mailer collector, being the proud JDH registered owner of Datula, EdMax, DinoX, King of Mail, Akira32Gold JDH and other obscure programs (all reviewed on my Web site). Checked out Datula from the link on your site, very nice MUA, just need to learn Japanese now:-) Do you know if they plan an English interface? Agreed. I also enjoyed the rest of your Web site; it made me very envious. By the way, where did the "wonmug" come from? -- Keith Russell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Won't check for new messages automatically
tracer wrote... t I think under windows 2000 it will do japanese... It does chinese even t if I cannot read it t If you can send me some Japanese I can read it with the japanese fonts t snapshot them and send them back to see if it IS t japanese... The problem with Japanese is that there are several different encoding schemes, so you need a mechanism for detecting them, and also for inserting the right char set when you send. Then you need an editor that can properly handle the "kinsoku shori" editing rules. Unicode isn't practical yet for Japanese because nearly everyone uses iso-2022-jp, not UTF. Anyway, EdMax and Datula work great with Japanese. I am using The Bat because it's an interesting program, not because it's the most practical for my real needs. Still haven't solved the message checking problem, though. -- Yours, John De Hoog, Tokyo http://wonmug.com -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Won't check for new messages automatically
Jast wrote... The Bat won't check for new mail automatically. I have to do so manually. I can't find any setting that would affect this behavior. J What are the setting is your Options|NetworkAdministration window? It's a J wild guess, but since you have a permanent connection it might help if you J set it to "LAN or manual connection" is it isn't. It has been set to LAN or manual connection all along, just as I do with the other half dozen programs I use. This is the first time I've had such a problem. I wonder if it's something in the 1.41 beta version I'm using? -- Yours, John De Hoog, Tokyo http://wonmug.com -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --