Won't check for new messages automatically

2000-01-27 Thread John De Hoog


Hello, Bat users,

  Well, I finally gave in to my Bat fantasies and registered this
  software. I'm basically a mailer collector, being the proud
  registered owner of Datula, EdMax, DinoX, King of Mail, Akira32Gold
  and other obscure programs (all reviewed on my Web site). But I've
  always had a place in my heart for The Bat. The main problem being
  that it doesn't do Japanese. So I arranged to have all Japanese mail
  sent to a different account, and use The Bat for the rest.

  Now to my problem. I've got three accounts set up, and have set two
  of them to check for new messages automatically every few minutes.
  I have a permanent Internet connection, so no dialup problems, but
  for some reason The Bat won't check for new mail automatically. I
  have to do so manually. I can't find any setting that would affect
  this behavior. It doesn't matter whether the Mail Ticker is open or
  not.

  What am I missing?

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 John De Hoog, Tokyo
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Re: Won't check for new messages automatically

2000-01-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hallo John,

On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 22:21:55 +0900 GMT (27.01.2000, 21:21 +0800 GMT),
John De Hoog wrote:

JDH   always had a place in my heart for The Bat. The main problem being
JDH   that it doesn't do Japanese. So I arranged to have all Japanese mail
JDH   sent to a different account, and use The Bat for the rest.

Mine does Chinese. Do you have a Japanese Windows? In that case, it
should display the Japanese characters. Otherwise, TB still has a
problem with CJK, but I hope that Unicode will be in the upcoming
version 2 ("it will be ready in six months").

JDH   Now to my problem. I've got three accounts set up, and have set two
JDH   of them to check for new messages automatically every few minutes.
JDH   I have a permanent Internet connection, so no dialup problems, but
JDH   for some reason The Bat won't check for new mail automatically. I
JDH   have to do so manually. I can't find any setting that would affect
JDH   this behavior.

OK, try: Options/Network  Administration and check whether the
tickbox "No automatic dial" is checked.

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Re: Won't check for new messages automatically

2000-01-27 Thread Allie Martin

On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 22:21:55 +0900, John De Hoog wrote:

==8
   Now to my problem. I've got three accounts set up, and have set two
   of them to check for new messages automatically every few minutes.
   I have a permanent Internet connection, so no dialup problems, but
   for some reason The Bat won't check for new mail automatically. I
   have to do so manually. I can't find any setting that would affect
   this behavior. It doesn't matter whether the Mail Ticker is open or
   not.

If you setup the periodic checking using Account|Properties|Options|
'periodic checking each...', and also have it setup for *each* account then
I don't know what the problem is since there are no other settings available
for manipulating this function.

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Re: Won't check for new messages automatically

2000-01-27 Thread Allie Martin

On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:46:19 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

==8
JDH   Now to my problem. I've got three accounts set up, and have set two
JDH   of them to check for new messages automatically every few minutes.
JDH   I have a permanent Internet connection, so no dialup problems, but
JDH   for some reason The Bat won't check for new mail automatically. I
JDH   have to do so manually. I can't find any setting that would affect
JDH   this behavior.

 OK, try: Options/Network  Administration and check whether the
 tickbox "No automatic dial" is checked.

That shouldn't have anything to do with his problem since he has a
constant/permanent connection to the internet.

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Re: Won't check for new messages automatically

2000-01-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hallo Allie,

On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:05:15  -0500 GMT (27.01.2000, 22:05 +0800 GMT),
Allie Martin wrote:

AM That shouldn't have anything to do with his problem since he has a
AM constant/permanent connection to the internet.

Right. John, can you activate the dial-up monitor (Options/Show
Dial-Up Monitor/Show always) and check whether TB knows that you are
connected?

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Re: Won't check for new messages automatically

2000-01-27 Thread Mark Aston

Hi John,

Thursday, January 27, 2000, 1:21:55 PM, you wrote:

JDH   Well, I finally gave in to my Bat fantasies and registered this
JDH   software. I'm basically a mailer collector, being the proud
JDH   registered owner of Datula, EdMax, DinoX, King of Mail, Akira32Gold
JDH   and other obscure programs (all reviewed on my Web site).

Checked  out  Datula  from  the link on your site, very nice MUA, just
need  to  learn  Japanese  now:-)  Do you know if they plan an English
interface?

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Using The Bat! 1.39
under Windows 98 4 10 Build 1998

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Re: Won't check for new messages automatically

2000-01-27 Thread Allie Martin

On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 22:16:55 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

==8
AM That shouldn't have anything to do with his problem since he has a
AM constant/permanent connection to the internet.

 Right. John, can you activate the dial-up monitor (Options/Show
 Dial-Up Monitor/Show always) and check whether TB knows that you are
 connected?

Uhm. If he successfully does a manual download of his mail and is able
to send mail then I'd think TB! knows about his connection. Right? :)

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Re: Won't check for new messages automatically

2000-01-27 Thread Jast

Morning John De Hoog,

 Now to my problem. I've got three accounts set up, and have set two of
 them to check for new messages automatically every few minutes. I have a
 permanent Internet connection, so no dialup problems, but for some reason
 The Bat won't check for new mail automatically. I have to do so manually.
 I can't find any setting that would affect this behavior.

 What are the setting is your Options|NetworkAdministration window? It's a
 wild guess, but since you have a permanent connection it might help if you
 set it to "LAN or manual connection" is it isn't.


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Re[2]: Won't check for new messages automatically

2000-01-27 Thread tracer

Hello Thomas Fernandez,
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:46:19 +0800 GMT your local time,
which was Thursday, January 27, 2000, 8:46:19 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Thomas Fernandez wrote:


 Hallo John,

 On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 22:21:55 +0900 GMT (27.01.2000, 21:21 +0800 GMT),
 John De Hoog wrote:

JDH   always had a place in my heart for The Bat. The main problem being
JDH   that it doesn't do Japanese. So I arranged to have all Japanese mail
JDH   sent to a different account, and use The Bat for the rest.

 Mine does Chinese. Do you have a Japanese Windows? In that case, it
 should display the Japanese characters. Otherwise, TB still has a
 problem with CJK, but I hope that Unicode will be in the upcoming
 version 2 ("it will be ready in six months").

Thomas, my system does chinese... under English 2000

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Re: Won't check for new messages automatically

2000-01-27 Thread tracer

Hello John De Hoog,
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 22:21:55 +0900 GMT your local time,
which was Thursday, January 27, 2000, 8:21:55 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
John De Hoog wrote:



 Hello, Bat users,

   Well, I finally gave in to my Bat fantasies and registered this
   software. I'm basically a mailer collector, being the proud
   registered owner of Datula, EdMax, DinoX, King of Mail, Akira32Gold
   and other obscure programs (all reviewed on my Web site). But I've
   always had a place in my heart for The Bat. The main problem being
   that it doesn't do Japanese. So I arranged to have all Japanese mail
   sent to a different account, and use The Bat for the rest.

I think under windows 2000 it will do japanese... It does chinese even
if I cannot read it
If you can send me some Japanese I can read it with the japanese fonts
snapshot them and send them back to see if it IS
japanese...


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mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am using FireTalk: 321338
ICQ: on request 
Website: www.phuketcomputers.com



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Re[2]: Won't check for new messages automatically

2000-01-27 Thread Keith Russell

Hello, fellow Bat-lovers.

On Thursday, 27 January, 2000, 6:46:19 AM, Thomas wrote:

 Hallo John,

 On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 22:21:55 +0900 GMT (27.01.2000, 21:21 +0800 GMT),
 John De Hoog wrote:

JDH   always had a place in my heart for The Bat. The main problem being
JDH   that it doesn't do Japanese. So I arranged to have all Japanese mail
JDH   sent to a different account, and use The Bat for the rest.

 Mine does Chinese. Do you have a Japanese Windows? In that case, it
 should display the Japanese characters.

Or have you tried it with third-party display software, such as NJStar
or UnionWay? I've done my testing mostly with Korean, but I'm pretty
sure I saw it working with Japanese and Chinese at one point.

The Bat still has definitely problems with CJK. For example, you can't
change the font, and the headers are mangled, but viewing seems to
work.

 Otherwise, TB still has a
 problem with CJK, but I hope that Unicode will be in the upcoming
 version 2 ("it will be ready in six months").

Unicode will make it possible to communicate in CJK IF your
correspondents are using Unicode and it's supported by your OS

I hope the developers will also support the older encodings in version
2.


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Re[2]: Won't check for new messages automatically

2000-01-27 Thread Keith Russell

Hello, fellow Bat-lovers.

On Thursday, 27 January, 2000, 7:35:11 AM, Mark wrote:

 Hi John,

 Thursday, January 27, 2000, 1:21:55 PM, you wrote:

JDH   Well, I finally gave in to my Bat fantasies and registered this
JDH   software. I'm basically a mailer collector, being the proud
JDH   registered owner of Datula, EdMax, DinoX, King of Mail, Akira32Gold
JDH   and other obscure programs (all reviewed on my Web site).

 Checked  out  Datula  from  the link on your site, very nice MUA, just
 need  to  learn  Japanese  now:-)  Do you know if they plan an English
 interface?

Agreed. I also enjoyed the rest of your Web site; it made me very
envious.

By the way, where did the "wonmug" come from?


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Re[2]: Won't check for new messages automatically

2000-01-27 Thread John De Hoog

tracer wrote...

t I think under windows 2000 it will do japanese... It does chinese even
t if I cannot read it
t If you can send me some Japanese I can read it with the japanese fonts
t snapshot them and send them back to see if it IS
t japanese...

   The problem with Japanese is that there are several different
   encoding schemes, so you need a mechanism for detecting them, and
   also for inserting the right char set when you send. Then you need
   an editor that can properly handle the "kinsoku shori" editing
   rules. Unicode isn't practical yet for Japanese because nearly
   everyone uses iso-2022-jp, not UTF.

   Anyway, EdMax and Datula work great with Japanese. I am using The
   Bat because it's an interesting program, not because it's the most
   practical for my real needs.

   Still haven't solved the message checking problem, though.

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Re[2]: Won't check for new messages automatically

2000-01-27 Thread John De Hoog

Jast wrote...

 The Bat won't check for new mail automatically. I have to do so manually.
 I can't find any setting that would affect this behavior.

J  What are the setting is your Options|NetworkAdministration window? It's a
J  wild guess, but since you have a permanent connection it might help if you
J  set it to "LAN or manual connection" is it isn't.

 It has been set to LAN or manual connection all along, just as I do
 with the other half dozen programs I use. This is the first time I've
 had such a problem. I wonder if it's something in the 1.41 beta
 version I'm using?

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 http://wonmug.com

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