Re: Yahoo UK SMTP problem
On Sunday, December 22, 2013, 8:16:20 PM, Robert Bull wrote: > On Wednesday, December 18, 2013, 8:30:55 AM, Peter Meyns wrote: Sorry, don't know how I sent a blank reply, fumble fingers I suppose. -- Regards, Robert Bull mailto:theb...@theluminousvoid.plus.com Using The Bat! v6.1.4 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Yahoo UK SMTP problem
On Wednesday, December 18, 2013, 8:30:55 AM, Peter Meyns wrote: > Hi, > on Wed, 18 Dec 2013 00:01:31 +GMT (18.12.2013, 01:01 +0100GMT here), > Robert Bull wrote: RB>> Two of my e-mail addresses are with Yahoo! UK, which allows POP3 RB>> access. Until recently YUK has used plain transport and everything RB>> worked fine, but recently they changed to requiring SSL. RB>> ... > Some providers, like German Telekom and obviously Yahoo UK, have > decided to use the old (you can also call it obsolete) SSL 3.0 > encryption standard in order to "increase security". Ritlabs - > grinding their teeth - have agreed to implement it in the upcoming > release version of The Bat! which is supposed to be available this > week. -- Regards, Robert Bull mailto:theb...@theluminousvoid.plus.com Using The Bat! v6.1.4 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Yahoo UK SMTP problem
On Wednesday, December 18, 2013, 8:30:55 AM, Peter Meyns wrote: > Some providers, like German Telekom and obviously Yahoo UK, have > decided to use the old (you can also call it obsolete) SSL 3.0 > encryption standard in order to "increase security". Ritlabs - > grinding their teeth - have agreed to implement it in the upcoming > release version of The Bat! which is supposed to be available this > week. Looks like those features have now been added in TB 6.1.4; see What's New dated 12/20/2013, which notes, in part: - New features TLS 1.1 SSL 3.0 [...] Improvements Faster message retrieval over POP3 with large volumes of messages kept on the [...] Fixes TLS connections with some servers didn't work. - Apart from my "send" problem, solved by MFPA, I shall be particularly interested in faster message retrieval. I've found TB's relatively slow pick-up frustrating, compared to the rapidity of some other programs. -- Regards, Robert Bull mailto:theb...@theluminousvoid.plus.com Using The Bat! v6.1.4 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Yahoo UK SMTP problem
On Thursday, December 19, 2013, 12:54:39 AM, MFPA wrote: > The following SMTP settings work for one of my "@yahoo.uk" accounts:- > SMTP Server: smtp.mail.yahoo.co.uk > Connection: Secure to regular port STARTTLS > Port: 587 > Authentication: Perform SMTP Authorisation (RFC 2554) > same user/password as for mail retreival This seems to work for me, too. Many thanks! :) One test msg got lost in the electronic ether, but other test msgs were sent and rec'd correctly. I no longer get the error messages on attempted send. Thanks again, -- Regards, Robert Bull mailto:theb...@theluminousvoid.plus.com Using The Bat! v6.1.0.2 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Yahoo UK SMTP problem
Hi On Wednesday 18 December 2013 at 12:01:31 AM, in , Robert Bull wrote: > Two of my e-mail addresses are with Yahoo! UK, which > allows POP3 access. Until recently YUK has used plain > transport and everything worked fine, but recently they > changed to requiring SSL. Since then I've been able to > *receive* mail, but not to send it. [snipped] > Any ideas, please? I don't know if my TB! version makes a difference. I'll ignore POP settings as you said whatever you use works for you. The following SMTP settings work for one of my "@yahoo.uk" accounts:- SMTP Server: smtp.mail.yahoo.co.uk Connection: Secure to regular port STARTTLS Port: 587 Authentication: Perform SMTP Authorisation (RFC 2554) same user/password as for mail retreival -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Teamwork is essential - it allows you to blame someone else Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Yahoo UK SMTP problem
Hi On Wednesday 18 December 2013 at 3:50:23 PM, in , Robert Bull wrote: > But I suspect you may mean much more detailed > diagnostic logging. Account | Properties | Transport | Protocol Logging? -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Success isn't how far you got, but the distance you travelled from where you started Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Yahoo UK SMTP problem
On Wednesday, December 18, 2013, 3:28:28 PM, Chris Wilson wrote: > So, is there any pertinent logging we can use to help fix these sort > of problems? Logging to some extent is automatic - press Shift+Control+A and you get something like ( some lines wrapped): 18/12/2013, 14:27:10: SEND - Connecting to SMTP server smtp.mail.yahoo.co.uk on port 465 18/12/2013, 14:27:10: SEND - Initiating TLS handshake >18/12/2013, 14:27:10: SEND - Certificate S/N: 07AAB97C578AA62B8A9BBFB148D0FE88, algorithm: RSA (2048 bits), issued from 5/30/2012 to 6/4/2014 12:00:00 PM, for 25 host(s): smtp.mail.yahoo.com, *.smtp.mail.yahoo.com, smtp.mail.yahoo.com.ar, smtp.mail.yahoo.com.au, smtp.mail.yahoo.com.br, smtp.mail.yahoo.com.cn, smtp.mail.yahoo.com.hk, smtp.mail.yahoo.com.my, smtp.mail.yahoo.com.ph, smtp.mail.yahoo.com.sg, smtp.mail.yahoo.com.tw, smtp.mail.yahoo.com.vn, smtp.mail.yahoo.co.id, smtp.mail.yahoo.co.in, smtp.mail.yahoo.co.kr, smtp.mail.yahoo.co.th, smtp.mail.yahoo.co.uk, smtp.mail.yahoo.ca, smtp.mail.yahoo.cn, smtp.mail.yahoo.de, smtp.mail.yahoo.es, smtp.mail.yahoo.fr, smtp.mail.yahoo.it, smtp.y7mail.com, smtp.correo.yahoo.es. >18/12/2013, 14:27:10: SEND - Owner: "US", "CA", "Sunnyvale", "Yahoo! Inc.", >"Yahoo Mail", "smtp.mail.yahoo.com". >18/12/2013, 14:27:10: SEND - Issuer: "US", "DigiCert Inc", >"www.digicert.com", "DigiCert High Assurance CA-3". >18/12/2013, 14:27:10: SEND - Root: "US", "DigiCert Inc", "www.digicert.com", >"DigiCert High Assurance EV Root CA" 18/12/2013, 14:27:10: SEND - TLS handshake complete 18/12/2013, 14:27:10: SEND - connected to SMTP server 18/12/2013, 14:27:23: SEND - WARNING: there were no compatible authentication mechanisms detected 18/12/2013, 14:27:23: SEND - sending message to [ test e-mail address ] !18/12/2013, 14:27:23: SEND - Server reports error. The response is: 5.7.1 Authentication required 18/12/2013, 14:27:23: SEND - connection finished - 0 message(s) sent 18/12/2013, 14:27:23: SEND - Some messages were not sent - check the log for details But I suspect you may mean much more detailed diagnostic logging. -- Regards, Robert Bull mailto:theb...@theluminousvoid.plus.com Using The Bat! v6.1.0.2 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Yahoo UK SMTP problem
> On Wednesday, December 18, 2013, 9:36:01 AM, Peter Meyns wrote: PM>>> Some providers, like German Telekom and obviously Yahoo UK, have PM>>> decided to use the old (you can also call it obsolete) SSL 3.0 PM>> I overlooked that it is already released: >> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_6-1-0-2.msi > Thanks for the pointer! But... it's not only a paid upgrade for me > (I did), but it suffers from the same problem :(( So, either RITlabs > didn't fix the problem in this version, or, much more likely, Yahoo! > UK caused some *other* obstacle to progress. I received an automated > acknowledgement of a submission for help to Yahoo Customer Care 48 > hours ago, but so far, no actual help. Maybe I'll have to contact > RITlabs direct. 18 December 2013 My UK ISP has not made any changes (as yet), but my fear is they may do I am curious as to whether any logging in TB! could be turned on to illicit help from those far more technically skilled than I. Either at Ritlabs, here, or at my ISP, should the occasion arise. So, is there any pertinent logging we can use to help fix these sort of problems? -- Chris Wilson "Using The Bat! v5.8.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3" -- Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Yahoo UK SMTP problem
On Wednesday, December 18, 2013, 9:36:01 AM, Peter Meyns wrote: PM>> Some providers, like German Telekom and obviously Yahoo UK, have PM>> decided to use the old (you can also call it obsolete) SSL 3.0 PM> I overlooked that it is already released: > http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_6-1-0-2.msi Thanks for the pointer! But... it's not only a paid upgrade for me (I did), but it suffers from the same problem :(( So, either RITlabs didn't fix the problem in this version, or, much more likely, Yahoo! UK caused some *other* obstacle to progress. I received an automated acknowledgement of a submission for help to Yahoo Customer Care 48 hours ago, but so far, no actual help. Maybe I'll have to contact RITlabs direct. -- Regards, Robert Bull mailto:theb...@theluminousvoid.plus.com Using The Bat! v6.1.0.2 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Yahoo UK SMTP problem
Hi, on Wed, 18 Dec 2013 09:30:55 +0100GMT I wrote: PM> ... PM> Some providers, like German Telekom and obviously Yahoo UK, have PM> decided to use the old (you can also call it obsolete) SSL 3.0 PM> encryption standard in order to "increase security". Ritlabs - PM> grinding their teeth - have agreed to implement it in the upcoming PM> release version of The Bat! which is supposed to be available this PM> week. I overlooked that it is already released: ,- [ mid:1392884492.20131218005...@ritlabs.com ] | http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/intpack_6-1-0-2.msi | http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_rus_6-1-0-2.msi | http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_6-1-0-2.msi | http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home_6-1-0-2.msi `- -- Cheers Peter Originality is the art of concealing your sources. Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Yahoo UK SMTP problem
Hi, on Wed, 18 Dec 2013 00:01:31 +GMT (18.12.2013, 01:01 +0100GMT here), Robert Bull wrote: RB> Two of my e-mail addresses are with Yahoo! UK, which allows POP3 RB> access. Until recently YUK has used plain transport and everything RB> worked fine, but recently they changed to requiring SSL. RB> ... Some providers, like German Telekom and obviously Yahoo UK, have decided to use the old (you can also call it obsolete) SSL 3.0 encryption standard in order to "increase security". Ritlabs - grinding their teeth - have agreed to implement it in the upcoming release version of The Bat! which is supposed to be available this week. -- Cheers Peter Cannot open file "c:\Programme\The Bat!\Cookies\tbcookies.txt" Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Yahoo UK SMTP problem
Two of my e-mail addresses are with Yahoo! UK, which allows POP3 access. Until recently YUK has used plain transport and everything worked fine, but recently they changed to requiring SSL. Since then I've been able to *receive* mail, but not to send it. When I try to send I get this error: - Server reports error. The response is: 5.7.1 Authentication required - As far as I can see, I have the correct settings. YUK's Help file at http://help.yahoo.com/kb/index?page=content&y=PROD_MAIL_ML&locale=en_GB&id=SLN4724 gives: - Want to access Yahoo Mail from an email program like Outlook or Mac Mail? Here's the settings you'll need. Incoming Mail (POP) Server - Requires SSL (Secure Socket Layer) Server: pop.mail.yahoo.com Port: 995 Requires SSL: Yes Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server - Requires TLS (Transport Layer Security) Server: smtp.mail.yahoo.com Port: 465 or 587 Requires SSL: Yes Requires authentication: Yes If your POP client doesn't offer TLS, you'll still be able to use SSL. Login info - Requires authentication Email address: Your full email address (n...@domain.com.) Password: Your account's password. - I substitute .co.uk for .com, but everything has worked OK until SSL. The settings I have, text-scraped from TB's screen, are: Transport SMTP Server smtp.mail.yahoo.co.uk SMTP Connection Secure on dedicated port (TLS) SMTP Port 465 Incoming mail protocol Incoming mail serverpop.mail.yahoo.co.uk Connection to incoming mail server Secure on dedicated port (TLS) Incoming mail server port 995 Connection timeout 6000 sec Detail screenshots are at http://imgur.com/RfLCMJ5 , http://imgur.com/noH0ZAq , http://imgur.com/SNqRWlq These look OK to me. I couldn't get Ultrafunk Popcorn to work either, but the small, free, portable nPOP worked OK. So it isn't a problem with my PC. I read far more messages than I send, and probably haven't sent any for a while: it's possible this problem has only occurred since upgrading from TB 5.8.8 (I think) to v6. However, I can't be certain of that. My other accounts are Regular, so I can't cross-check with them. Any ideas, please? -- Thanks in anticipation, Robert Bull mailto:theb...@theluminousvoid.plus.com Using The Bat! v6.0.10 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
