Re: questions/suggestions for the bat...
Hello Allie, On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 21:11:16 -0500 GMT (08/07/2004, 09:11 +0700 GMT), Allie Martin wrote: Anyway, the above description of your steps worked great; my question is ... how does one back-out of the end result, i.e., return to where ALL messages are listed again versus just the messages containing the particular item that resulted from following your steps? AM Simply hit the Esc key. If you are in the TB main window. If you are in a fodler view window, this would close the window. crtl+= will take you back to seeing all messages. -- Cheers, Thomas. :tombkk: Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Wochenende wird schoen. Unwetter und Waldbraende. * Message reply created with The Bat! 2.12 Beta/7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: questions/suggestions for the bat...
Hi Allie, Sunday, June 20, 2004, 7:20:57 AM, you wrote: snip AM Holding the Alt key while selecting any item in the message list will AM list only those messages containing that particular item. So opening AM your Sent folder and alt-clicking on the name 'Alexander Gladilin' in AM the To column will list only those messages sent to that person. AM Moving the mouse away from the list and back will lead to a popup AM showing the number of messages currently listed (x of y). snip Sort of newbie here ... just d/l'ed V2.11.02 late last night and am now trying to apply/practice some of the things applicable to said version (I was using a much older version of The Bat! (V2.00.x?) before) that I am now reading about. Anyway, the above description of your steps worked great; my question is ... how does one back-out of the end result, i.e., return to where ALL messages are listed again versus just the messages containing the particular item that resulted from following your steps? I didn't stumble across the right combination of keys to be able to do that, so I had to close the application and reopen it again to evidently reset back to normal initial conditions. Thanks in advance. -- Best regards, subscriber2list Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: questions/suggestions for the bat...
On Wednesday, July 7, 2004 @ 9:10:00 PM, subscriber2list wrote: [snips] subscriber2list Anyway, the above description of subscriber2list your steps worked great; my question is ... how does one back-out of subscriber2list the end result, i.e., return to where ALL messages are listed again subscriber2list versus just the messages containing the particular item that resulted subscriber2list from following your steps? esc :-) -- cheers, Mic (reply address works) The airplane Buddy Holly died in was the American Pie. (Thus the name of the Don McLean song.) Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: questions/suggestions for the bat...
Hello subscriber2list, Wednesday, July 7, 2004, 8:10:00 AM, you wrote: s Sort of newbie here ... just d/l'ed V2.11.02 late last night and am s now trying to apply/practice some of the things applicable to said sI didn't stumble across the right combination of keys to be able to sdo that, so I had to close the s application and reopen it again to evidently reset back to normal s initial conditions. View-Display-All Messages You can also create a shortcut to do this. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/7 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: questions/suggestions for the bat...
Hello M, Wednesday, July 7, 2004, 8:19:08 AM, you wrote: MicCullen [snips] subscriber2list Anyway, the above description of subscriber2list your steps worked great; my subscriber2list question is ... how does one back-out of subscriber2list the end result, i.e., return to subscriber2list where ALL messages are listed again subscriber2list versus just the messages subscriber2list containing the particular item that resulted subscriber2list from following your steps? MicCullen esc :-) Even Better. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/7 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: questions/suggestions for the bat...
Wednesday, July 7, 2004, subscriber2list wrote: how does one back-out of the end result, i.e., return to where ALL messages are listed again versus just the messages containing the particular item that resulted from following your steps? View - Display - All Messages -- Urban Murphy's Third Law: In any field of endeavor, anything that can go wrong will go wrong. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: questions/suggestions for the bat...
Hello M, Stuart and Urban! Wednesday, July 7, 2004, 9:19:08 AM, youse guys wrote various suggestions, one of which was: MicCullen On Wednesday, July 7, 2004 @ 9:10:00 PM, subscriber2list wrote: MicCullen [snips] subscriber2list Anyway, the above description of subscriber2list your steps worked great; my subscriber2list question is ... how does one back-out of subscriber2list the end result, i.e., return to subscriber2list where ALL messages are listed again subscriber2list versus just the messages subscriber2list containing the particular item that resulted subscriber2list from following your steps? MicCullen esc :-) Hey, thanks for your quick responses. I read in a later email message that this action was a Tip of the Day. I wonder if the Tip told you how to back out of it, as well? I'm trying as many suggestions as folks make here on tips and tricks, but sometimes they tell me the path to follow, but the not the path of how to return ... hm, ;) Thanks again. Really do appreciate your contributions!!! -- Best regards, subscriber2list Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: questions/suggestions for the bat...
Subscriber2list, [S] wrote: Anyway, the above description of your steps worked great; my question is ... how does one back-out of the end result, i.e., return to where ALL messages are listed again versus just the messages containing the particular item that resulted from following your steps? Simply hit the Esc key. -- -=[ :Allie: ]=- List Moderator and fellow end-user PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com pgp1vIc7z1n51.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: questions/suggestions for the bat...
At 13:20 20/06/2004, you wrote: my usual action is to do a quick search for the name or subject and then alt-click on the name. I now have a list of all messages to or from the particular person. Only as long as they happen to be in the same folder. With M2, it's a single click (I'm mourning the loss of M2, which I had to abandon, and I'm not quite happy enough with The Bat!'s interface to buy it instead of going back to Eudora, but my trial period isn't over yet and I have a hankering for Virtual Folders). Mary Fons Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: questions/suggestions for the bat...
Hello Allie, Sunday, June 20, 2004, 6:20:57 AM, you wrote: Holding the Alt key while selecting any item in the message list will list only those messages containing that particular item. Wow! How nifty is that?! I've been using TB for years and I didn't know about that little tidbit! -- :Dave_Gorman: Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: questions/suggestions for the bat...
Hello all, Monday, June 21, 2004, Dave Gorman wrote: Holding the Alt key while selecting any item in the message list will list only those messages containing that particular item. Wow! How nifty is that?! I've been using TB for years and I didn't know about that little tidbit! this is one of tips available in Help | Tip of the day menu. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 AMD ThunderBird 1,2 GHz, 512 MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
questions/suggestions for the bat...
Dear tbudl, I have been using The bat for some time now and found it to be GREAT ;) Still I got some questins/suggestions for it... A. Message Finder is lying When searching for messages via Message Finder the status bar always immediatly says Search Finished. Found 0 messages and after a few seconds or more e.g. 100 results come in and the status bar still states it has found 0 messages. Is this a known bug ? Could we not get something like Search in progress. Found xx of yy messages until now. xx would be found messages and yy the number of messages scanned until now. And optimally the found messages should be added to the result list on-the-fly so I can start using the messages before the complete search has finished. B. Configure default TO:/CC: for a folder ? Is that possible ? e.g. I have a thebatlist folder for this mailinglist and I would like to be able to select the folder and when I press Create a new message that TO: would be set to [EMAIL PROTECTED] per default. C. Automatically create virtual folder for mailing lists / authors ? Opera's M2 has a rather nice and unique feature (as I know of) that makes it create a virtual folder (they call it Access point) automatically for each mailinglist im on. They do it by looking at the mail headers to decide if it is a mailing list or not. Is this possible in The Bat ? (it would really safe me some time configuring my filters ;) Another nice possibility would be able to get an automatic virtual folder per user in my address book so I could instantly go find messages received/sent to them. D. What is the Watched by feature in folder properties ? I haven't been able to find docs on that feature - what is it ? E. IMAP folders reset their ordering when new folders come in ?! I love the ability in The Bat to reorder the sequence of folders so that I can have: Inbox + work + private + privatebiz + ... + ... But as soon as I go to Manage IMAP folders that ordering is nuked and the folder is now alphabetically ordered instead - is their a way to keep this ordering and let The Bat just add any new folders at the bottom instead of messing up my own sort ? F. Quick-change SMTP server ? I'm so unfortunate to have a laptop, so I travel alot between sites: home, work, work-sites, family etc. At most of these places I need to use a separate SMTP server as they have blocked port 25 access to anyone else than the providers SMTP server. Until now I have gone in and manually changed the SMTP server in account properties on each of my mail accounts (3) when changing location - and I do that at least 2 or 3 times a day (home/work/home) and it gets rather bothersome ;( Is there a easier way ? Thanks in advance for answering ;) -- Best regards/Med venlig hilsen, Max mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ACURE A/S, Celluar: 51 56 10 14, Office: 39 11 80 27 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: questions/suggestions for the bat...
Hi, Max!
MRA When searching for messages via Message Finder the status bar always
MRA immediatly says Search Finished. Found 0 messages and after a few
MRA seconds or more e.g. 100 results come in and the status bar still
MRA states it has found 0 messages.
Really? My message finder says something like
Searching Folder: ...(.. messages found)
What's your TB! version?
MRA B. Configure default TO:/CC: for a folder ?
That's a great idea, I've been thinking about it!
MRA C. Automatically create virtual folder for mailing lists / authors ?
MRA Is this possible in The Bat ? (it would really safe me some time
MRA configuring my filters ;)
I don't think that this is necessary, it isn't difficult for me to
create a filter.
MRA Another nice possibility would be able to get an automatic virtual folder
MRA per user in my address book so I could instantly go find messages
MRA received/sent to them.
And how many VF-s do you want to have??? 100?
MRA D. What is the Watched by feature in folder properties ?
MRA I haven't been able to find docs on that feature - what is it ?
It's a list of _virtual_ folders, that watch this folder. You can't
select there non-virtual one. (Every VF has a list of folders, from
which he shows messages {after filtering})
MRA E. IMAP folders reset their ordering when new folders come in ?!
MRA I love the ability in The Bat to reorder the sequence of folders so
MRA that I can have:
I've never used IMAP, don't know.
MRA F. Quick-change SMTP server ?
Yeah, I think it's rather useful feature, especially for notebook
users!
MRA Thanks in advance for answering ;)
--
Best regards, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Alexander Gladilin ICQ #154518000
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Re: questions/suggestions for the bat...
Hello Max, MRA B. Configure default TO:/CC: for a folder ? AG That's a great idea, I've been thinking about it! It's the feature that kept me a long time in Gnus on emacs ;) (and with feature C it could be set automatically ;) Select the folder, right click on it and select Properties and you can set a Template for new messages, replies and forward. Then use the %TO macro in your template(s). -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.10.03 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: questions/suggestions for the bat...
Hej MAU, Sunday, June 20, 2004, 10:16:53 AM, skrev du: M Hello Max, MRA B. Configure default TO:/CC: for a folder ? AG That's a great idea, I've been thinking about it! It's the feature that kept me a long time in Gnus on emacs ;) (and with feature C it could be set automatically ;) M Select the folder, right click on it and select Properties and you can M set a Template for new messages, replies and forward. Then use the %TO M macro in your template(s). I don't follow ;) The templates just insert texts into the body of messsage - i can't see a way to SET the To: field ? Secondly if that works, if I change the template for the folder then when I change my default template than I have to go update all my mailinglist folders ;( -- Best regards/Med venlig hilsen, Max Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: questions/suggestions for the bat...
Hej Max, Sunday, June 20, 2004, 10:21:52 AM, skrev du: MRA Hej MAU, MRA Sunday, June 20, 2004, 10:16:53 AM, skrev du: M Hello Max, MRA B. Configure default TO:/CC: for a folder ? AG That's a great idea, I've been thinking about it! It's the feature that kept me a long time in Gnus on emacs ;) (and with feature C it could be set automatically ;) M Select the folder, right click on it and select Properties and you can M set a Template for new messages, replies and forward. Then use the %TO M macro in your template(s). MRA I don't follow ;) MRA The templates just insert texts into the body of messsage - i can't MRA see a way to SET the To: field ? hmmyou mean %TO= , right ? ..just re-read the filters manual ;) MRA Secondly if that works, if I change the template for the folder then when I change MRA my default template than I have to go update all my mailinglist MRA folders ;( ...and this i reckon could be handle by using includes or someting, right ;) A RTFM to my self ;) -- Best regards/Med venlig hilsen, Max mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ACURE A/S, Celluar: 51 56 10 14, Office: 39 11 80 27 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: questions/suggestions for the bat...
Max Rydahl Andersen, [MRA] wrote: A. Message Finder is lying When searching for messages via Message Finder the status bar always immediatly says Search Finished. Found 0 messages and after a few seconds or more e.g. 100 results come in and the status bar still states it has found 0 messages. Is this a known bug ? I think this has to do with IMAP since I began noting this after I started using IMAP. I'm so happy that the search works at all that I haven't made a fuss about it. IMAP is currently under heavy development and they're trying to make new functionality 'serious problems' free before ironing out the various cosmetic issues. B. Configure default TO:/CC: for a folder ? Is that possible ? e.g. I have a thebatlist folder for this mailinglist and I would like to be able to select the folder and when I press Create a new message that TO: would be set to [EMAIL PROTECTED] per default. You could use the %To= and %CC= macros. These macros in the new message template invariably cause problems since you could inadvertently send a private message to the list when a new message is invoked with that folder selected. D. What is the Watched by feature in folder properties ? I haven't been able to find docs on that feature - what is it ? It shows which virtual and chat folders are monitoring the folder. But as soon as I go to Manage IMAP folders that ordering is nuked and the folder is now alphabetically ordered instead - is their a way to keep this ordering and let The Bat just add any new folders at the bottom instead of messing up my own sort ? Your experience doesn't mirror mine at all. The folders stay in the order that I placed them. Odd. shrug Until now I have gone in and manually changed the SMTP server in account properties on each of my mail accounts (3) when changing location - and I do that at least 2 or 3 times a day (home/work/home) and it gets rather bothersome ;( Is there a easier way ? X-Ray http://www.xrayapp.com/, a little utility for The Bat! has the ability to choose SMTP server to use based on your machine's IP address. Could that help? Why am I asking? :) I know it can help. You just need to know the different IP blocks your various ISP's use. That's not so trivial but I can usually get this info by doing a IP/Hostname lookup on the ISP domain. -- -=[ :Allie: ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.12 Beta/1 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgpTXkF5Mo2fN.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: questions/suggestions for the bat...
On Sun 20 June 2004, 17:52:59 +1000, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: MRA F. Quick-change SMTP server ? AG Yeah, I think it's rather useful feature, especially for notebook AG users! As remark I've just found a solution for it...http://www.mobilenetswitch.com/ it allows me to specify a network profile where it dynamically binds the name DynamicSMTP to the right smtp server - and it handles other cumbersome network switching features ;) Mobile Net Switch looks like a useful tool. However, if all you want to do is change your SMTP server, may I suggest XRay (www.xrayapp.com) - it will even select the correct server automatically based upon your laptop's current IP address. -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: questions/suggestions for the bat...
Max Rydahl Andersen, [MRA] wrote: If that is what it takes yes ;) My main wish is to say - hmm...what mails have I sent to Alexander Gladilin and then just click on his name and ask TB to answer that question - quickly! And without requiring me to add a virtual folder manuallyit's just a question of easy-access and easy use. May I make a suggestion? This could help while waiting for the auto-virtual folder creation which could be a long time. There are two features that could help you with what you wish to do. I'm sorry that it's not a single point and click action and I agree that being able to achieve the same thing by selecting a folder from a bank of VF's would be easier. Holding the Alt key while selecting any item in the message list will list only those messages containing that particular item. So opening your Sent folder and alt-clicking on the name 'Alexander Gladilin' in the To column will list only those messages sent to that person. Moving the mouse away from the list and back will lead to a popup showing the number of messages currently listed (x of y). If you don't see 'Alexander Gladilin' in the message list right away, you can easily find it by starting to type the name with the message list in focus. The quick search feature will be autoinvoked. The quick search keeps selecting a message that best matches the search string. CTRL-Enter will display other messages that match the string search. So my usual action is to do a quick search for the name or subject and then alt-click on the name. I now have a list of all messages to or from the particular person. -- -=[ :Allie: ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.12 Beta/1 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgpJxxHfS3QjZ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: questions/suggestions for the bat...
On Sunday, June 20, 2004, 12:07:44 PM, Allie Martin wrote: X-Ray http://www.xrayapp.com/, a little utility for The Bat! has the ability to choose SMTP server to use based on your machine's IP address. Could that help? I used x-ray for this purpose on my laptop, but found that after some changes to the network at the office, which uses Exchange, the connection to the smtp server for the office was always rejected when it went via X-Ray, although it worked perfectly when I entered exactly the same information directly into TB!s smtp settings. I have since found that my ISP offers SMTPAUTH for use when not directly connected to the ISP's network, so I use this on the laptop. This is very convenient, as I can send mail via my ISP however I am connecting to the internet. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Max, Secondly if that works, if I change the template for the folder then when I change my default template than I have to go update all my mailinglist folders ;( No, the default template will not change your folder templates if you have manually changed them. One little trick I use to avoid confusion or doubts in case folder or account templates are different but quite similar, is to include this do nothing line as my last line in account templates: %COMMENT=This is default%COMMENT= If this line dean not show when you look at folder templates it is because you have manually changed the folder ones. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.10.03 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Marck- Sunday, June 20, 2004, 1:31:58 AM, you wrote: MDP stock lecture MDP I have a pet hate in TB. That pet hate is named Folder Templates. In MDP 150 folders I have two and only two that have folder templates. They MDP are for two specific lists which don't set the reply address properly. sigh ...I have three... /sigh -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Mark, Sunday, June 20, 2004, 12:29:58 PM, you wrote: MDP stock lecture MDP I have a pet hate in TB. That pet hate is named Folder Templates. M sigh ...I have three... /sigh Have you ever signed your telephone company correspondence Love, Mark? ;-) -- Regards, Maggie :Maggie: Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: questions/suggestions for the bat...
Maggie- Sunday, June 20, 2004, 9:47:50 AM, you wrote: M Have you ever signed your telephone company correspondence Love, Mark? M ;-) g I haven't, but I *have* sent messages to tbudl that should never have gone there. And have (on another misconfigured listserv) accidentally sent messages to a single recipient when I meant them to go to the entire list. ducking ...besides, my telephone company knows how I feel... /ducking -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
