Re[2]: Quoting selected text in a reply
Hello Miguel, Wednesday, January 29, 2003, 4:00:33 PM, you wrote: so, tell me how to move a thread from tbudl to tbot... MAU Ctrl+Shift+Double_click on root message while looking at F7 ;-) rotfl!! -- mmmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quoting selected text in a reply
On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, 4:07 PM, you wrote: on a double-clicked email, to start a message, could it check that email against your addressbook to see if there is an AB reply template ?? MAU If the address you double-click is in your AB and it has a template MAU for _new_ messages, the template will be used. I've just verified MAU this. well, that is a plus then, isn't it!! I only tried it from a sigline on the list, and it wasn't someone I had in my addressbook.. I probably could have tried it, but I've been kinda busy tonight, a nice 3 hour drive in rush hour traffic from one end of Atlanta to the other and back.. Seems my son borrowed my truck for the day while his was getting fixed ( from an accident ) and he totalled my truck in the rain, hydroplaning.. -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quoting selected text in a reply
Hello Paul, On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 14:39:43 -0500 GMT (30/01/03, 02:39 +0700 GMT), Paul Cartwright wrote: so, tell me how to move a thread from tbudl to tbot... this should be almost a beginners primer in the FAQ, or maybe a macro?? Hit reply on the message and manually change the TO address to TBOT's list address. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Reden ist Schweigen, Silber ist Gold. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quoting selected text in a reply
Hello Paul, On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:19:24 -0500 GMT (30/01/03, 08:19 +0700 GMT), Paul Cartwright wrote: but I've been kinda busy tonight, a nice 3 hour drive in rush hour traffic from one end of Atlanta to the other and back.. Seems my son borrowed my truck for the day while his was getting fixed ( from an accident ) and he totalled my truck in the rain, hydroplaning.. Ouch. I hope your son is OK, though. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary saftey deserve neither liberty not saftey. (Benjamin Franklin, 1759) Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Quoting selected text in a reply
Hi Thomas, Wednesday, January 29, 2003, 4:07:36 PM, you wrote: TF I was told some time ago that mice are animals, whereas mouses are TF computer equipment. CMIIW. No, no. Mice are animals, rodents are computer equipment ;-) -- Best regards, Mike Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Quoting selected text in a reply
When I reply to a message, I'd like to be able to select some text before replying, and have that text included in my reply as a quote. I can see how to quote the entire message, or quote the contents of the clipboard, but not the selected text. Is there a way to do what I want? If so, how? -- Iain mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3/ Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quoting selected text in a reply
Hello Iain, On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 13:21:33 + GMT (28 Jan, 15:21 my local time), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: When I reply to a message, I'd like to be able to select some text before replying, and have that text included in my reply as a quote. I can see how to quote the entire message, or quote the contents of the clipboard, but not the selected text. Is there a way to do what I want? If so, how? Just select text and press F4 -- Best regards, Eriks Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Quoting selected text in a reply
On Tuesday, January 28, 2003 1:25:44 PM Eriks wrote: Just select text and press F4 That's great, thanks. Where are the helpful hints that tell you stuff like that hidden? -- Iain mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3/ Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Quoting selected text in a reply
On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, 1:58:29 PM, Iain Harrison wrote: Just select text and press F4 IH That's great, thanks. Where are the helpful hints that tell you stuff IH like that hidden? That particular one is hidden in the Specials menu at the top, or under Specials when you right-click the message in the message-list. There are a lot of things in TB which don't appear where you might expect them, and the right-click menus often offer more options than those at the top of the screen - but it's worth digging around because there are some gems in there :-) -- Deborah Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quoting selected text in a reply
Hello Iain, On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, at 13:58:29 GMT + (1/28/2003, 7:58 AM -0500 GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: That's great, thanks. Where are the helpful hints that tell you stuff like that hidden? Besides what Deborah said you might want to add this link to your browswer. http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut_eng.html -- Best regards, Greg Strong TB! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quoting selected text in a reply
ON Tuesday, January 28, 2003, 3:12:26 PM, you wrote: DW There are a lot of things in TB which don't appear where you might DW expect them, and the right-click menus often offer more options than DW those at the top of the screen - but it's worth digging around because DW there are some gems in there :-) Hi Deborah, I personally think that TB! lacks intuitive action. For instance with the reply-quoting-selected-text I would have like to be able to mark text and press the standard reply button/action and because there is no marked text TB! would use only that to reply. Just my to 0.02, although TB! is still by far the best I ever used and believe me I used a few :( -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Being careful, tightening up, and trying to steer the ball will likely cause disaster. Good golfers gain control over the ball by feeling that they are giving up control. Using The Bat! v1.62h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quoting selected text in a reply
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, Gerard wrote... DW There are a lot of things in TB which don't appear where you DW might expect them, and the right-click menus often offer more DW options than those at the top of the screen - but it's worth DW digging around because there are some gems in there :-) I personally think that TB! lacks intuitive action. For instance with the reply-quoting-selected-text I would have like to be able to mark text and press the standard reply button/action and because there is no marked text TB! would use only that to reply. Like the F4 key for example? I can see your idea though, if you have text selected, then on replying, use that text only. Fairly simple to do I'd imagine. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBPjbgQCuD6BT4/R9zEQJ/bwCgtWhOw07X71AZ1HZa34amCSWk3N0AoPQQ aXnZvl6lluSCQHZL/qcmZwwJ =8uFf -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Quoting selected text in a reply
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 13:55:40 -0600 GMT(28/01/2003, 7:55 PM + GMT), Jonathan Angliss wrote: JA On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, Gerard wrote... I personally think that TB! lacks intuitive action. For instance with the reply-quoting-selected-text I would have like to be able to mark text and press the standard reply button/action and because there is no marked text TB! would use only that to reply. JA Like the F4 key for example? Using that's always made me particularly nervous, as I'm so used to pressing it together with control. JA I can see your idea though, if you have text selected, JA then on replying, use that text only. Fairly simple to JA do I'd imagine. Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 -- Best regards, myobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quoting selected text in a reply
Hello Gerard, I personally think that TB! lacks intuitive action. For instance with the reply-quoting-selected-text I would have like to be able to mark text and press the standard reply button/action and because there is no marked text TB! would use only that to reply. Select (mark) text and Shift+Click on the Reply button. Like I did just now. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quoting selected text in a reply
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, Miguel A. Urech wrote... Select (mark) text and Shift+Click on the Reply button. Like I did just now. Ahh... still learning... very good... thanks for that one :) - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBPjbneSuD6BT4/R9zEQKpwgCfdNCSrsejPwOEkkvHSDHEPvI5szUAniPZ hYyt/JRX+dwVU3NH9YltKsFL =Ri7u -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quoting selected text in a reply
Hello Miguel! On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, 2:17 PM, you wrote: snip M Select (mark) text and Shift+Click on the Reply button. Like I did M just now. Wow, this is so much better than F4! Thanks a bunch!! -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Quoting selected text in a reply
Hello Miguel, Tuesday, January 28, 2003, 3:17:34 PM, you wrote: MAU Select (mark) text and Shift+Click on the Reply button. Like I did MAU just now. Oh, that's fabulous. I just tried it. Thanks for that. -- mmmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quoting selected text in a reply
Tuesday, January 28, 2003, 10:28:29 AM, you wrote: Just select text and press F4 IH That's great, thanks. Where are the helpful hints that tell you stuff IH like that hidden? Just go to Menu Navigator, and type 'Selected text'. Unfortunately, Windows XP users can't do that yet. Any word when they were going to fix that? -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quoting selected text in a reply
On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, 4:55 PM, you wrote: M Select (mark) text and Shift+Click on the Reply button. Like I did M just now. MB Wow, this is so much better than F4! Thanks a bunch!! lets see... BOTH: highlight text 2 methods: 1-hold down the shift key and click the mouse on REPLY 2-tap F4 seems F4 is less keystrokes, what am I missing?? -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quoting selected text in a reply
Hello Paul! On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, 5:31 PM, you wrote: snip P lets see... BOTH: P highlight text P 2 methods: P 1-hold down the shift key and click the mouse on REPLY P 2-tap F4 P seems F4 is less keystrokes, what am I missing?? That I am a mouse person, with old-fashioned typewriter skills. So, like with playing the piano, my little finger knows without thinking where the shift key is. So I highlight and in one motion move to the green arrow Reply button. To hold the shift key down is for me as automatic as for writing a capital letter. To each his own? As you wrote to me once about fishing v. scuba diving. (At least, I think that was what you were saying.) :) I have to *hunt* that F4 button. It is marked on the side on my keyboard. Has some kind of tiny words on top. I have to do an absolute Count-Down for it! I am not very good at counting. :) Just call me different. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quoting selected text in a reply
On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, 6:54 PM, you wrote: P seems F4 is less keystrokes, what am I missing?? MB That I am a mouse person, with old-fashioned typewriter skills. So, MB like with playing the piano, my little finger knows without thinking MB where the shift key is. MB So I highlight and in one motion move to the green arrow Reply button. MB To hold the shift key down is for me as automatic as for writing a MB capital letter. MB To each his own? As you wrote to me once about fishing v. scuba MB diving. (At least, I think that was what you were saying.) :) MB I have to *hunt* that F4 button. It is marked on the side on my MB keyboard. Has some kind of tiny words on top. I have to do an absolute MB Count-Down for it! I am not very good at counting. :) MB Just call me different. :) well, no problem, that's why they make it easy for both types of users. I was a command-line junkie for 15 years, so hightilight-F4 is a ntural for me. I did the Mavis Beacon typing tutor ( more than once) but I keep forgetting, I always look at the keyboard as I type ( or I make mistakes) and the command line is MUCH more my STYLE. I can appreciate your style, which is why I asked. It seemed easier TO ME, but obviously isn't as easy for you. I'll just call you Mary, you don't have to be different:) -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Quoting selected text in a reply
Hello Mary, Tuesday, January 28, 2003, 6:54:10 PM, you wrote: MB I have to *hunt* that F4 button. It is marked on the side on my MB keyboard. Has some kind of tiny words on top. I have to do an absolute MB Count-Down for it! I am not very good at counting. :) MB Just call me different. :) Yes. I'm different, too. :) The F keys were never something my 10 fingered typing learned to cope with. I suspect this is exactly why TheBat! gives us a couple of different ways to do the same thing; they're thinking about us old folks... :) Thanks again to Miguel for pointing this out. -- Peace and Love, mmmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quoting selected text in a reply
Hello Paul! On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, 6:40 PM, you wrote: P ... seems F4 is less keystrokes, what am I missing?? MB That I am a mouse person, with old-fashioned typewriter skills. MB So I highlight and in one motion move to the green arrow Reply button. MB To hold the shift key down is for me as automatic as for writing a MB capital letter. ... MB Just call me different. :) P ... well, no problem, that's why they make it easy for both types of P users. ... Except, I learned about F4 early on. And only tonight after three months with The Bat! did I stumble, simply by lurking on tbudl, on this wonderful little energy-saver for the arthritic hand. :) P I'll just call you Mary, you don't have to be different:) Really, each of us is different, though. And that is what's so marvelous about The Bat! It can fit the needs of everyone who prefers to communicate in plain text. And even accommodate, on the side, our friends and relatives who insist on sending us html messages. Words can't express how delighted I was to get this Quoting technique that Miguel told us about! -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quoting selected text in a reply
Hello mm! On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, 8:13 PM, you wrote: snip MB Just call me different. :) m Yes. I'm different, too. :) The F keys were never something my 10 m fingered typing learned to cope with. I suspect this is exactly why m TheBat! gives us a couple of different ways to do the same thing; m they're thinking about us old folks... :) m Thanks again to Miguel for pointing this out. And thanks to tbudl's moderators for letting me lurk and then write back my pleasure in this new toy Miguel sent us, twice! -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Really annoying quoting-thingy
See mail file located at ... URL: http://www.grimstveit.net/jakob/files/temp/tb.zip I find it *really* annoying the way TB tries to detect quoting characters. Many times, it is an url or an arrow sign (like this -) which is interpreted as quoting characters. URL to messeage above contains such an example. Any suggestions on how to improve this? Anyone else experiencing this kind of problems? -- Vyrdsamt... Jakob Breivik Grimstveit, [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.grimstveit.net/jakob/ Morvikbotn 341, 5122 Morvik. Heim: +47 55195667, mob: +47 48298152 I am not a vegetarian because I love animals; I am a vegetarian because I hate plants. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Really annoying quoting-thingy
Hello Jakob, On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:59:46 +0200 GMT (11/07/02, 13:59 +0700 GMT), Jakob Breivik Grimstveit wrote: JBG I find it *really* annoying the way TB tries to detect quoting characters. JBG Many times, it is an url or an arrow sign (like this -) which is JBG interpreted as quoting characters. URL to messeage above contains such an JBG example. The message displayed fine here without highlighting any lines as quotes. Reason: I have set Quote Name Limit (Options / Editor Preferences / General) to 10 characters. You can set it to 0 (zero) and thus turn it off. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. If a police officer in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, suspects a couple is having sex inside a vehicle they must honk their horn three times, and wait two minutes before being allowed to approach the scene. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.61 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Really annoying quoting-thingy
At 11.07.2002 09:41, Thomas F wrote the following: Hello Jakob, On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:59:46 +0200 GMT (11/07/02, 13:59 +0700 GMT), Jakob Breivik Grimstveit wrote: JBG I find it *really* annoying the way TB tries to detect quoting JBG characters. Many times, it is an url or an arrow sign (like this -) JBG which is interpreted as quoting characters. URL to messeage above JBG contains such an example. The message displayed fine here without highlighting any lines as quotes. Reason: I have set Quote Name Limit (Options / Editor Preferences / General) to 10 characters. You can set it to 0 (zero) and thus turn it off. Clever! Thanks! -- Vyrdsamt... Jakob Breivik Grimstveit, [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.grimstveit.net/jakob/ Morvikbotn 341, 5122 Morvik. Heim: +47 55195667, mob: +47 48298152 An expert is a person who has made all the mistakes which can be made in a very narrow field. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Quoting and communication styles (Forcing wrap)
Hello Peter, On Sat, 8 Jun 2002 17:21:18 +0200 GMT (08/06/02, 22:21 +0700 GMT), Peter Palmreuther wrote: MDP Any attempt at justification of that method is (again, my opinion) MDP meaningless because it is just plain *wrong* :-(((. PP Thomas: does this awake any remembrances? PP *SCNR* Pit For an explanation to the other TBUDL members: we just had the exact same discussion on the German list. It went on for several days. ;-) I agree with Allie: There *are* situations or circumstances in which quoting the full text of the previous message(s) make sense. Tech support is one, certain ways of conducting international business communication is another. The reasons for this have been explained by Deborah. In I would like to add that in business mails, I cannot cut part of what the agent at the other end said; I might cut something that he considers important but I don't (at first glance). Also, when a clerk goes on vacation and has to hand over a file to a colleague, he will forward one email, which contains everything that has been said. It is much easier to understand the whole picture as a late-comer if you use response-avoe-fullquote than if you use inline-quoting. In lists like this one, inline quoting makes a lot more sense, as we should not overquote anyway, and the postings including the quotes replied to usually fit into one page. Also, on this list we have a discussion, meaning I reply to parts of your message but not necessarily all; and if we have agreed on something, it doesn't need to be repeated. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Alexander Strehmel (Unterhaching): Gerade in einem Spiel, wo die Nerven blank liegen, muss man sein wahres Gesicht zeigen und die Hosen runterlassen. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60q under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Quoting and communication styles (Forcing wrap)
Hello Thomas, I agree with Allie: There *are* situations or circumstances in which quoting the full text of the previous message(s) make sense. Tech support is one, certain ways of conducting international business communication is another. You are very right. I quote full text in my everyday business communications. It's somewhat a standard practice. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
How to stop being treated as quoting prefix
Hello, Sorry I'm asking this again, I'm afraid my previous post was a bit misleading. I frequently need to use greater than symbol in my message, but TB! keeps treating the entire line with the symbol(no matter where or how many} as quoted text and bold the text to reflect the change. Is there a way to tell TB! to stop marking the greater than as quoting prefix while composing the message? This thing is driving me crazy since I discuss mathematical problems in my messages and the greater than symbol is essential in such discussion. Thanks. Regards, absicherer Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to stop being treated as quoting prefix
Dude, Thats the problem I'm having, coolnice to see someone else having this same problem! Does your repeat the line? Drew. - Original Message - From: Absicherer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 9:51 AM Subject: How to stop being treated as quoting prefix Hello, Sorry I'm asking this again, I'm afraid my previous post was a bit misleading. I frequently need to use greater than symbol in my message, but TB! keeps treating the entire line with the symbol(no matter where or how many} as quoted text and bold the text to reflect the change. Is there a way to tell TB! to stop marking the greater than as quoting prefix while composing the message? This thing is driving me crazy since I discuss mathematical problems in my messages and the greater than symbol is essential in such discussion. Thanks. Regards, absicherer Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to stop being treated as quoting prefix
Hello Absicherer, Wednesday, April 3, 2002, 6:51:35 PM, you wrote: I frequently need to use greater than symbol in my message, but TB! keeps treating the entire line with the symbol(no matter where or how many} as quoted text and bold the text to reflect the change. Is there a way to tell TB! to stop marking the greater than as quoting prefix while composing the message? This thing is driving me crazy since I discuss mathematical problems in my messages and the greater than symbol is essential in such discussion. Thanks. Try Options-Editor Preferences-Quote name limit This controls how far into the line TB! will look for the symbol (to accommodate those who put initials, etc. before the ). The default is 20. You can set it to something low (1-3 is usually good) and that should solve your problem as long you don't start lines with '. -- Best regards, Shaunamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Quoting (was: Manipulating groups)
Hello Joseph! On Tuesday, March 26, 2002 at 5:45:20 PM you wrote: -- JN Jean-Baptiste Lavedrine wrote on Tuesday, March 26, 2002: At the moment I use the RTV as my standard viewer. One of the things I like, is to have signatures in light grey, thus rendering them unobtrusive. The downside comes with your quoting style: below the sig delimiter. I don't want to start one of those futile discussions on how to quote correctly (above or below ...). Just a sidenote ... -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.60 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Das Vergleichen mit anderen ist das Ende des Glücks und der Anfang der Unzufriedenheit. (Sören Kierkegaard) Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Quoting
Dierk Haasis wrote on Tuesday, March 26, 2002: At the moment I use the RTV as my standard viewer. One of the things I like, is to have signatures in light grey, thus rendering them unobtrusive. The downside comes with your quoting style: below the sig delimiter. I don't want to start one of those futile discussions on how to quote correctly (above or below ...). Just a sidenote ... Dierk, the problem is that some mailing lists put a sig delimiter above their footer information and some do not. For those that do, the normal email quoting style (top quoting, as opposed to the bottom quoting of the Usenet, or the much more helpful interlinear quoting which I use only as needed) works fine; for those that don't, like this list, it doesn't work as well and the whole segment under my sig is grayed-out. I haven't wanted to use templates for different mailing lists, because it's a degree of complexity I would rather have avoided, but your post reminds me that I need now to start doing it. Thanks for the reminder. -- JN Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Questions about quoting
I am new to TB!, but I already like it more than any other mail client. There are a couple of issues, though, that have me peeved, and I would like to know if they can be prevented. (0) Quoted text within quoted text doesn't behave like I want. I get Text, but I want Text. (1) When blank lines are quoted, they aren't prefixed by a '' character. How can I enable this? -- Jeffrey Sharp The email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] is for mailing list traffic. Please send off-list mail to roach jay ess ess at wasp subatomix beetle dot com. You may need to remove some bugs first. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Questions about quoting
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jeffrey, @16 March 2002, 04:35:51 -0600 (10:35 UK time) Jeffrey Sharp wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I am new to TB!, but I already like it more than any other mail client. There are a couple of issues, though, that have me peeved, and I would like to know if they can be prevented. (0) Quoted text within quoted text doesn't behave like I want. I get Text, but I want Text. Please don't want that. It is what happens when email software goes wrong! The way TB does it is 100% correct. What's more, the forthcoming new version (it's bad form to discuss new features here, but I'm sticking my neck out because it must be getting close to a release) uses the quoting levels to alternately colour odd and even quotes. Broken quoting like that for which you hanker will break that feature. (1) When blank lines are quoted, they aren't prefixed by a '' character. How can I enable this? Only by using the Paste as quote feature. This is a long time wish list item from many users. TB doesn't quote blank lines in normal quoting because it breaks TB's ability to re-wrap quoted paragraphs by blurring the edges of paragraphs. Paragraphs are delimited by a clear blank line in TB's editor. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ___ \ BrainStorm - thinking^10^10 - see: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / · TB! v1.54 Beta/49-14F4B4B2 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iD8DBQE8kyV5OeQkq5KdzaARApJ2AJ42F0NYiJoCU5PZw5nRMqp5nb+2YQCfTbTb WY0EHH16qJNGPoaW9tqQxtE= =FnzT -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Quoting from sent messages
Hello TBUDL, Is there a way of quoting oneself and putting it in a new message. This would useful in cases where one wishes to clarify a previous message. I would like to be able to select a section of a previously sent message and have it quoted in a new message addressed to the same person. Anyone know a way to do this? -- Best regards, David mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Quoting from sent messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi David, On 30 January 2002 at 10:05:33 -0500 (which was 15:05 where I live) David Denton wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there a way of quoting oneself and putting it in a new message. This would useful in cases where one wishes to clarify a previous message. I would like to be able to select a section of a previously sent message and have it quoted in a new message addressed to the same person. Anyone know a way to do this? You can copy the text to the clipboard and use Alt-Ins (Paste Quoted). Would that do? - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ___ \ Think it through...BrainStorm www: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / · SB! v1.54 Beta/33/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iD8DBQE8WAusOeQkq5KdzaARAg7xAKC2jjH6yvvm9Cl7LEphg4xV8ARUVQCg/ozs OHPNA9WhQdjiWBPcnzAkoVo= =lsV8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Quoting from sent messages
Hello Marck, Wednesday, January 30, 2002, 10:05:13 AM, you wrote: MDP You can copy the text to the clipboard and use Alt-Ins (Paste Quoted). MDP Would that do? Thank you Marck, that does help. But what about automatically adding in the date and time of the original message (as when relying to a message) and putting the original address in the To: box? -- Best regards, David -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Quoting from sent messages
Hello Marck, Wednesday, January 30, 2002, 10:38:53 AM, you wrote: MDP SmartPad (F6) comes in handy for doing a pastiche like this. What is SmartPad and what does F6 do? I can find nothing in help or the List of (un)documented shortcuts. -- Best regards, David -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Quoting from sent messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi David, On 30 January 2002 at 10:58:42 -0500 (which was 15:58 where I live) David Denton wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP SmartPad (F6) comes in handy for doing a pastiche like this. What is SmartPad and what does F6 do? I can find nothing in help or the List of (un)documented shortcuts. Oops - parallax. I think it must be a beta feature in 1.54. Sorry to confuse. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ___ \ BrainStorm - a spare brain - www: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / · SB! v1.54 Beta/33/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iD8DBQE8WBfJOeQkq5KdzaARAuCCAJsEST+rAlPpHikFhnl/Dn3y682w1QCg8cY8 IyUtjS7vOAiAVNgbjyUxP2U= =jrXE -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Quoting from sent messages
Marck, That's a bit convoluted really. You can start a reply to your own message, copy the bits you want, escape from that, start a new message to the real recipient (choosing from the address book) then paste the copied text. I agree with you it's a bit convoluted. And he doesn't even have to start a new message and copy/paste, he can just change the To address in the reply to himself. I do this quite often. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.53d -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Quoting from sent messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi David, On 30 January 2002 at 10:24:53 -0500 (which was 15:24 where I live) David Denton wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP You can copy the text to the clipboard and use Alt-Ins (Paste Quoted). MDP Would that do? Thank you Marck, that does help. But what about automatically adding in the date and time of the original message (as when relying to a message) and putting the original address in the To: box? That's a bit convoluted really. You can start a reply to your own message, copy the bits you want, escape from that, start a new message to the real recipient (choosing from the address book) then paste the copied text. SmartPad (F6) comes in handy for doing a pastiche like this. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ___ \ BrainStorm - Brain extension- www: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / · SB! v1.54 Beta/33/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iD8DBQE8WBOQOeQkq5KdzaARAqulAKCj31myNLpl0k6wMtUiv+GMOVa46wCeOFd2 znyVqaDrglfr/c3dfBmzYms= =wa85 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[3]: Quoting from sent messages
Hello Miguel, Wednesday, January 30, 2002, 12:54:48 PM, you wrote: MAU I agree with you it's a bit convoluted. And he doesn't even have to MAU start a new message and copy/paste, he can just change the To address MAU in the reply to himself. I do this quite often. You and Marck are right. This is convoluted. I think I have gotten too used to TB! doing things automatically. It is really not much trouble to do as you suggest. -- Best regards, David -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Selective Quoting
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello wee, On Friday, January 25, 2002 at 19:17:43 +, wee David [WD] wrote concerning 'Selective Quoting': ... wD Is it okay to reply to a message and start a new thread by using wD [was original topic] Yes no problem. - -- Best regards, David ** 1200 bps used to seem so fast. ** [TB! 1.54 Beta/31] [Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2] [Running on a Celeron 800@1176 256 Mb RAM] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build 06 Comment: PGPKeys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_PGP_key iQA/AwUBPFGx61K9yf5+yp9NEQLQRwCgxE7iYrOzp3h/cb54JedAK+TpLE8An2bj NFFJul8ePHxMEmKrU1aXn9nB =9peu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Selective Quoting
Hello David van Zuijlekom, On Friday, January 25 2002 at 12:28 PM PDT, you wrote: wD Is it okay to reply to a message and start a new thread by using wD [was original topic] Yes no problem. Actually no, because although you have made mention of the original subject with your change, those who thread by reference will still show your message buried within the original subject thread, and if they were not that interested in that particular subject, won't open the thread... and thus miss your 'new' subject. When changing the subject, it is always best to start with a new message and hopefully create a new thread. -- Nick Andriash Courtenay, B.C. Canada -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Selective Quoting
Hi Alan, On Friday, January 25, 2002 at 12:41:08 [GMT -0800], you wrote: AP I remember reading that that is not okay.. When starting a new AP topic, start a new thread. Some people will not be following a AP certain thread, so any new topics in that thread could be missed by AP people. That depends. If a thread changes its topic, that change should be reflected by adjusting the subject. But if a completely new topic arises (in a new message, independent of any other message), this topic should start a new thread. -- Regards, Lars The Bat! 1.54 Beta/31 on Windows NT 5.1 Build 2600 |Lars Geiger | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Selective Quoting
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Nick, On Friday, January 25, 2002 at 12:42:52 -0800, Nick Andriash [NA] wrote concerning 'Selective Quoting': ... NA Actually no Yes you're probably right. But I think it depends on how much the subject is changed. If it's still related to the topic you can reply to this thread, but if it's a complete different subject you better start a new message or delete the references (the follow-up to contents). - -- Best regards, David ** 1024x768x256 - now that's a woman! ** [TB! 1.54 Beta/31] [Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2] [Running on a Celeron 800@1176 256 Mb RAM] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build 06 Comment: PGPKeys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_PGP_key iQA/AwUBPFHLIFK9yf5+yp9NEQL70gCfavdXAsESTg2AVvNKHxDdiKjF7QoAoOME 6jFMKUeUM47YCqkJDdG5tTse =+Tkw -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Selective Quoting
Hello David van Zuijlekom, On Friday, January 25 2002 at 02:16 PM PDT, you wrote: Yes you're probably right. But I think it depends on how much the subject is changed. If it's still related to the topic you can reply to this thread, but if it's a complete different subject you better start a new message or delete the references (the follow-up to contents). Yes, although that is true David, it just seems simpler to recommend that Users start a new message when changing the subject. -- Nick Andriash Courtenay, B.C. Canada -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
quoting
Does anyone know a way to keep blank lines out of blocks of quoted text? In other words option1 keeping a paragraph linked to another paragraph in a block of option1 quoted text option1 option1 Like this. option2 as opposed to option2 this kind of thing. thanks, Dan Kalafus mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: quoting
Hello Dan Kalafus, On Sunday, September 30 2001 at 10:16 AM PDT, you wrote: option1 keeping a paragraph linked to another paragraph in a block of option1 quoted text option1 option1 Like this. But why would you want all paragraphs linked together? All paragraphs should be separated by a blank line, or at least that is the way I've been taught. option2 as opposed to option2 this kind of thing. That is the desirable method, and hopefully TB! will not change. ;o) -- Nick -=N.J. Andriash | Courtenay, B.C. Canada=- Win 98SE | GnuPG v1.06 (MingW32) | Becky v2.00.07 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: quoting
Hello Dan, Historians believe that Sunday, September 30, 2001 at 10:16 AM was when, Dan Kalafus [DK] typed the following: option1 keeping a paragraph linked to another paragraph in a block of option1 quoted text option1 option1 Like this. Use Edit-Paste as Quotation Automatic quoting won't give you this behaviour. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/8 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A Despite these words, this page is blank. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Quoting first 5 lines
Januk, On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, at 23:46:57 [GMT -0700] (which was 12:16 PM where I live) you wrote: JA Try %QUOTES=%TEXT='5' Works fine now - Thanks ps : Net connection down and hence the delay in ack. As long as I use single quote the same works in the Reg Ex too. -- Warm regards, Raj mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Replied on Thursday, August 30, 2001 using TB Ver 1.54 Beta/4 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Quoting first 5 lines
Hi Raj,
Historians believe that Tuesday, August 28, 2001 at 10:52 GMT +0530
was when, Raj [R] typed the following:
R When I use %Text=5, I do not get the text quoted like in ('R'
R Text Here)
Try %QUOTES=%TEXT='5'
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Re[3]: Quoting first 5 lines
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Excessive Quoting
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, moderator note I've been dealing with a backlog of messages, and after reading, I felt the need to remind subscribers to please take the time to appropriately trim the text quoted in their replies. Appropriate trimming makes reading the message much easier in terms of avoiding unnecessary scrolling/ scanning and it definitely conserves on bandwidth. Thanks. \moderator note ©Allie - -- A. Curtis Martin List Moderator (and fellow registered end-user) Using SecureBat! v1.52 Beta/12/iKey1000 Win2k (SP1) - 'PC! Politically Correct (or) Pure Crap!' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Cyber-Knights Templar 6.5.8ckt (build 05) Comment: KeyID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOvcL51fJ62ArBxfiEQL/8gCeM0gwKwGx/yldO/1ObUlGtirCYxQAoMwD 8wC53z5j+DYDLMuSU/UnWXXk =+CMP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: threaded quoting
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello azrael! On Wednesday, April 18, 2001 at 2:27:15 AM you wrote: Tmtdc Another option would be to remove the %Quotes macro from your reply Tmtdc template and enable in the message editor 'View'= 'Original Text'. From Tmtdc the original text window you can copy and paste as a quotation what you like. Maybe I know how the above paragraph came to happen. TB! uses *one complete blank line* to identify paragraphs. With Auto-Format/Auto-Wrap it will wrap any text that is not separated by a blank line into one paragraph to your desired line length (preferably 70 characters). This way the identifier (initials) gets wrapped, too. the result you can see above. Hitting F4 generated the above message. As I said earlier the %Quotes macro is a mystery to me. I don't understand it let alone dare to change it. %Quotes just takes out the original text, puts it in your reply with quoting identifier (as you have chosen under Account/Properties/Templates/Reply). You cannot change the "macro" per se as it is hard coded, you can just take it out or put it in your reply templates. I prefer the old-fashioned way to have the complete text in my reply and delete portions of it by hand. Doesn't work with digest mode. Could you or someone just explain the basics of threaded messaging? How can I best take your comments out of my digest, quote them and then reply still keeping the integrity of the threading? Threading like a news reader (i.e. Agent). TB! utilises some of the headers to put messages on the same subject together. The best way is View by/References. At present I see that as highlight text, F4, and reply to individual thoughts (yours) by inserting my comments between them. Correct. Especially for digests. Also, reply or F4 puts "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the To: bar of the message. Thus far I've been dutifully cleaning that up to the suggested reply address of "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" I suspect that's an unnecessary PITA but better than chancing a critique by mailer-daemon You won't get one, you don't have to change it. You can trust TB! on the most basic e-mail client jobs. And not just there, but the more complex a task gets the more error prone it becomes - especially on user's side. - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/7 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Absurdity: A statement of belief manifestly inconsistent with one's own opinion. (Ambrose Bierce) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOt03XfTo1oA8g8dLEQInXgCfZHlgXYqRrV0PFYJ7yW6RDkQYxl4AoPx/ 7iemyP3ml0Ygpzr9+cHGZnaD =0Bip -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: threaded quoting
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On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:27:15 -0400, azrael thoughtfully wrote the
following:
I see that you're already getting a lot of help there Azrael. Good.
However, I'll throw in my little bit because things explained to you in
different words etc. usually leads to a full understanding.
a Hitting F4 generated the above message. As I said earlier the %Quotes
a macro is a mystery to me. I don't understand it let alone dare to
a change it.
Don't dare? vbg They bark way more than they actually bite, believe me.
These macros are just requests made by you to output portions of text or
information that's in the message to which you're replying. It will also
output system information for you such as the date and time (%Date, %Time)
or other useful information. They were designed to prevent repetitive
actions.
%Quotes will quote all the message body for you. Anywhere you place it in
you template, all the message body of the message to which you're replying
will be quoted. Another related macro is %Text. This one will output the
entire text of the message without quoting it.
The best way to understand these macros is to experiment with them.
There's an article in the TB! FAQ which outlines the template structure
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/templates.html. It will also give you
an idea of what these templates and macros can do for you. Experiment away
. :=)
a At present only paste functions are usable in the message editor. Would
a 'View'= change that? What if any function do the apostrophes ('View')
a have? Are they omitted in actual practice?
I was actually giving directions to menu items. "View" is actually
pointing to the View menu item in your editor window.
a Could you or someone just explain the basics of threaded messaging?
Threading is simply the process of grouping together messages which have
some common attribute. They may share the same subject (threading by
subject), they may share the same reference ID's in their headers
(threading by references), they may share the same author (threading by
sender/from) or they may share the same recipient (threading by
recipient/to). You will see these choices in the View menus under the
submenu item 'View threads by'. Most use either threading by references or
threading by subject.
Let me explain threading by references:
Each of TB!'s and some other e-mail client's messages have a unique
message ID which is in the headers. The message ID for your message is as
taken from your message headers:
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If you were to examine the headers for this message that I'm sending to
you, you will see that my message has its own unique ID as yours has, and
below that you will also see:
In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
^
That's your message ID. The one to which I'm replying.
TB! uses that piece of header information to associate my message with
yours, and through these message ID's TB! will also know that my message
is a direct response to yours. They will therefore be threaded together
as below (irrespective of when I send the message to you):
+ - Your message
|
- - My message
My message will appear chronologically after yours if you also thread in
descending order based on received time.
The only way to truly grasp this is to see threading in action. I suggest
that you switch to receiving TBUDL messages individually and then switch
to threading by references, with sorting by received time in descending
order.
a How can I best take your comments out of my digest, quote them and then
a reply still keeping the integrity of the threading?
Hopefully, you'll realize after my explanation that this cannot be done.
Since when you reply to the digest message, you're not replying directly
to me. TB! will therefore not be able to generate that critical piece of
header information:
In-Reply-To: my message id
This is therefore another reason to encourage switching to receiving the
messages individually if you wish to participate heavily in the discussion
group. :=)
a At present I see that as highlight text, F4, and reply to individual
a thoughts (yours) by inserting my comments between them.
Yes. That's all you can really do when replying to plain digest messages.
a Also, reply or F4 puts "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
a [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the To: bar of the message. Thus far I've
a been dutifully cleaning that up to the suggested reply address of
a "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" I suspect that's an unnecessary PITA but
a better than chancing a critique by mailer-daemon.
Again, that's because you're replying to the message digest. That's the
addressing that TB! dutifully extracted from the digest headers. Yet
another reason not to use digests if you frequently feel the need to reply
to posters contributions. g
- --
Allie,
-= A. Curtis Martin =-
List Moderator (and fellow end-user)
The Bat
Re: threaded quoting
Hello Allie;
Tuesday, April 17, 2001, 5:03:44 PM, you wrote:
Tmtdc Also, if you wish to quote only selected text, hit F4 after selecting the
Tmtdc text. This will generate a reply with only the selected text quoted.
Tmtdc Another option would be to remove the %Quotes macro from your
reply Tmtdc template and enable in the message editor 'View'=
'Original Text'. From Tmtdc the original text window you can copy and
paste as a quotation what you like.
Hitting F4 generated the above message. As I said earlier the %Quotes
macro is a mystery to me. I don't understand it let alone dare to
change it. At present only paste functions are usable in the message
editor. Would 'View'= change that? What if any function do the
apostrophes ('View') have? Are they omitted in actual practice?
Could you or someone just explain the basics of threaded
messaging? How can I best take your comments out of my digest,
quote them and then reply still keeping the integrity of the
threading?
At present I see that as highlight text, F4, and reply to
individual thoughts (yours) by inserting my comments between
them.
Also, reply or F4 puts "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] in the To: bar of the message. Thus
far I've been dutifully cleaning that up to the suggested reply
address of "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" I suspect that's an
unnecessary PITA but better than chancing a critique by
mailer-daemon.
./michael
[P.S Allie; You brought my mentoring on yourself with all
the great points you made about The Bat's superiority in your
mail-client debate with Phil from Opera-users. ; ]
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Quoting Selected Text (was DO NOT OVERQUOTE)
On February 16, 2001, at 5:15:33 PM, Ben Mills Wrote: BM Please elaborate: When I highlight a block to snip and hit F4TB BM spellchecks it. W BM What am I doing wrong??? Ben, it sounds like you have already hit the Reply button, and *then* you are highlighting the text you want to quote. In that case, F4 will indeed spell check the highlighted text. Try just reading the message in the preview pane, and then highlight some text... hit F4... and that should bring up a properly addressed reply with just the quoted text you highlighted. Nick N.J. Andriash [ TB! v1.49c | PGP 7.0.3 | Win 98 SE ] Vancouver, B.C. Canada | PGP Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE _ -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: TB! v1.49 - newbie: quoting the output of a regexp
Hello Januk, On Friday, January 19, 2001 09:49:12 GMT -0800, you wrote the following in regards to 'TB! v1.49 - newbie: quoting the output of a regexp': Januk You need another single quote at the very end of this line. So it Januk becomes: Januk %WRAPPED='On %ODATEEN %QINCLUDE="OTIME", you wrote the following in regards to Januk ''%QINCLUDE="bracket"'':' Everything is working properly now, Januk, but I have one last question on this subject. When using the %WRAPPED macro, it does not seem to obey the starting position. See the 2nd [wrapped] line in the intro. Is it possible to have %WRAPPED wrap to the starting line position as TB! is doing automatically in this paragraph? -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA PGP-Key 0x4C9CDF9D Using TB! v1.49 ICQ 41116329 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! v1.49 - newbie: quoting the output of a regexp
Hi Jan, Historians believe that on Sat, 20 Jan 2001 at 18:50:25 GMT -0500, Jan Rifkinson [JR] typed: JR Everything is working properly now, Januk, I'm glad to hear that. JR When using the %WRAPPED macro, it does not seem to obey the starting JR position. See the 2nd [wrapped] line in the intro. Is it possible to JR have %WRAPPED wrap to the starting line position as TB! is doing JR automatically in this paragraph? I don't know. You'll have to ask the RIT guys to see if they can implement that. I think I recall someone else asking that very question as well. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.49c under Windows 98 4.10 Build A I was the next door kid's imaginary friend. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: TB! v1.49 - newbie: quoting the output of a regexp
Hello TB! Listers, I am re-posting a msg I sent a couple of days ago in the hopes that one of you very helpful knowledgeable list members will take a stab @ solving a continuing problem. (or is this something that belongs on the new list?) I know I've included a lot of info but I didn't know how else to illustrate it. Many Thanks. JR -|| original message ||- On Wednesday, January 17, 2001 22:57:10 -0800 GMT you wrote the following in regards to TB! v1.49 - newbie: quoting the output of a regexp: JR so then my macro statement should look like this? JR %WRAPPED='On %ODATEEN %QINCLUDE="OTIME", you wrote the following in regards to %QINCLUDE='"bracket"':' JR (all on a single line) Januk Um, change that last %QInclude to: Januk ''%QINCLUDE="bracket"'' [excellent explanation snipped] I think I've included all the various directions but let me show you what the output of the template is: - TEMPLATE OUTPUT BEGINS - Hello Gretchen, (Bouvier AB entry) On Tuesday, January 16, 2001 23:41:09 -0500, you wrote the following in regards to 'touchy stomachnot': =Gretchen'Gretchen We have had 7 Bouviers and have never had one with a touchy stomach. I feed Gretchen a home made diet - -- signbouv" - TEMPLATE OUTPUT ENDS - And this is the template I used for this msg which is from a Bouvier eGroups list, i.e. includes [bouvier] in subject line. - TEMPLATE USED BEGINS - Hello %ABofromHANDLE='%ABofromFIRSTNAME="%OFROMFNAME"', (Bouvier AB entry) %WRAPPED='On %ODATEEN %QINCLUDE="OTIME", you wrote the following in regards to ''%QINCLUDE="bracket"'': %Quotestyle='=%ABofromHANDLE="%ABofromFIRSTNAME=""%OFROMFNAME""'%QUOTES %CURSOR - -- %QINCLUDE="signbouv" %ISSIGNATURE - TEMPLATE USED ENDS - The "(Bouvier AB entry)" is there so I can keep track of where the template is coming from as I refine my templates, etc. Otherwise: 1. The Intro line is not wrapped correctly (or at least the way I'd like it to appear (either justified left or justified would be fine but not an indented paragraph) 2. The quotation marks are now around the subject minus the brackets (thanks to you Allie) 3. The first line of the quoted text, i.e. %QUOTESTYLE output is a bit off. 4. The spacing between the intro line the %QUOTE area is compressed Many thanks for your continued help in this matter. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA PGP-Key 0x4C9CDF9D Using TB! v1.49 ICQ 41116329 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! v1.49 - newbie: quoting the output of a regexp
Hello Jan, Historians believe that on Fri, 19 Jan 2001 at 07:58:11 GMT -0500, Jan Rifkinson [JR] typed: JR %WRAPPED='On %ODATEEN %QINCLUDE="OTIME", you wrote the following in regards to ''%QINCLUDE="bracket"'': You need another single quote at the very end of this line. So it becomes: %WRAPPED='On %ODATEEN %QINCLUDE="OTIME", you wrote the following in regards to ''%QINCLUDE="bracket"'':' -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.49c under Windows 98 4.10 Build A OK, I'm weird! But I'm saving up to become eccentric. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: TB! v1.49 - newbie: quoting the output of a regexp
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Januk, On Wednesday, January 17, 2001 22:57:10 -0800 GMT you wrote the following in regards to TB! v1.49 - newbie: quoting the output of a regexp: JR so then my macro statement should look like this? JR %WRAPPED='On %ODATEEN %QINCLUDE="OTIME", you wrote the following in regards to %QINCLUDE='"bracket"':' JR (all on a single line) Januk Um, change that last %QInclude to: Januk ''%QINCLUDE="bracket"'' [excellent explanation snipped] I think I've included all the various directions but let me show you what the output of the template is: - TEMPLATE OUTPUT BEGINS - Hello Gretchen, (Bouvier AB entry) On Tuesday, January 16, 2001 23:41:09 -0500, you wrote the following in regards to 'touchy stomachnot': =Gretchen'Gretchen We have had 7 Bouviers and have never had one with a touchy stomach. I feed Gretchen a home made diet - -- signbouv" - TEMPLATE OUTPUT ENDS - And this is the template I used for this msg which is from a Bouvier eGroups list, i.e. includes [bouvier] in subject line. - TEMPLATE USED BEGINS - Hello %ABofromHANDLE='%ABofromFIRSTNAME="%OFROMFNAME"', (Bouvier AB entry) %WRAPPED='On %ODATEEN %QINCLUDE="OTIME", you wrote the following in regards to ''%QINCLUDE="bracket"'': %Quotestyle='=%ABofromHANDLE="%ABofromFIRSTNAME=""%OFROMFNAME""'%QUOTES %CURSOR - -- %QINCLUDE="signbouv" %ISSIGNATURE - TEMPLATE USED ENDS - The "(Bouvier AB entry)" is there so I can keep track of where the template is coming from as I refine my templates, etc. Otherwise: 1. The Intro line is not wrapped correctly (or at least the way I'd like it to appear (either justified left or justified would be fine but not an indented paragraph) 2. The quotation marks are now around the subject minus the brackets (thanks to you Allie) 3. The first line of the quoted text, i.e. %QUOTESTYLE output is a bit off. 4. The spacing between the intro line the %QUOTE area is compressed Many thanks for your continued help in this matter. - -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA PGP-Key 0x4C9CDF9D Using TB! v1.49 ICQ 41116329 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOmWzpZccVS5MnN+dEQIQMQCfbHgq8zANZoV0fJF+WHQVwbPZDvYAoLDc CVoOkFz/I9yxOGRqbuMeeqbt =0MBo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
TB! v1.49 - newbie: quoting the output of a regexp
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello TBUDListers. I was trying to put quotation marks around the output of the regexp "bracket" but it produces a blank. Can anyone show me the right way to express this the logic behind the form? On %ODATEEN %QINCLUDE="otime", you wrote the following in regards to %QINCLUDE="='bracket'": Also for this same line I've tried the %WRAPPED= macro @ the head of the above line the result is the 2nd line moves to the left most position whereas the 1st line is indented by 2 spaces. What am I doing wrong or is this the anticipated result of %WRAPPED? And this also folds into the first question, i.e. the use of single double quotes. Thank you. - -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA PGP-Key 0x4C9CDF9D Using TB! v1.49 ICQ 41116329 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOmRWQ5ccVS5MnN+dEQJc9ACdGPH+Q82Y8JbR5oZRFu+3TnzsjY4Aniex P9GcFcgtj+CSJYTBsgPA6rfh =T4TG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! v1.49 - newbie: quoting the output of a regexp
Hallo Jan, On Tue, 16 Jan 2001 09:10:03 -0500 GMT (16/01/2001, 22:10 +0800 GMT), Jan Rifkinson wrote: Jan On %ODATEEN %QINCLUDE="otime", you wrote the following in regards to %QINCLUDE="='bracket'": Is "barcket" (without quotes) the name of a QT that contains the RegEx? Then why do you use different syntex from the QT "otime" you include earlier? If that QT does contain a RegEx, maybe the problem is with the RegEx itself. Would you post it here for evaluation? -- Cheers, Thomas. -It's hard to be humble when you're as great as I am. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49c under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! v1.49 - newbie: quoting the output of a regexp
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 16 Jan 2001 09:10:03 -0500, Jan contributed this to our collective wisdom: JR I was trying to put quotation marks around the output of the JR regexp "bracket" but it produces a blank. Can anyone show me JR the right way to express this the logic behind the form? JR On %ODATEEN %QINCLUDE="otime", you wrote the following in regards ^ this is fine. JR to %QINCLUDE="='bracket'": Why not just %QINCLUDE="bracket": ? Why the extra '='? The extra '=' is needed for the %Quotestyle macro specifically. JR Also for this same line I've tried the %WRAPPED= macro @ the JR head of the above line the result is the 2nd line moves to JR the left most position whereas the 1st line is indented by 2 JR spaces. What am I doing wrong or is this the anticipated result JR of %WRAPPED? And this also folds into the first question, i.e. JR the use of single double quotes. If you use the %Wrapped macro the line needs to be unbroken, i.e., %Wrapped="this should be one unbroken line of text" The syntax should be as follows: %Wrapped='On %ODATEEN %QINCLUDE="otime", you wrote the following in regards to %QINCLUDE="bracket":' Ok, let me see if I can explain: If you create a macro that has a value attached to it, this value is bound by double quotations. %Macro="value" Now, if you wish to define another macro *within* the value for a macro, you have to place two quotations for every one that would appears within the first macros value. Wow, confusing. :=) Anyway, here is an example: %Macro1="Macro2=""value""" ^^ ^^ Note the doubled double quotations. To avoid having a lot of doubled quotations you can do this: %Macro1='Macro2="value"' Basically you need to differentiate the recursed macros value from that of the parent macros. In one case you use doubled double quotations or you use single quotes for the parent macro and double quotes for the recursed macro. - -- @~@@~@ | A. Curtis Martin [List Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA] | | PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey | @_@ (Opinions given are mine and not those of RITLABS) @_@ __ TB! v1.49b | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender and message authentication. iQA/AwUBOmTZDVfJ62ArBxfiEQI8ZgCgwU3BLtMu7SULdNvudTH3I+KOBasAoNtJ lUC63Ytag9Mpa++wQIRPfKiJ =zm2s -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: TB! v1.49 - newbie: quoting the output of a regexp
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Allie, I'm going to take things a little out of order. On Tuesday, January 16, 2001 18:28:13 -0500 you wrote the following in regards to TB! v1.49 - newbie: quoting the output of a regexp: JR [...] I've tried the %WRAPPED= macro @ the JR head of the above line the result is the 2nd line moves to JR the left most position whereas the 1st line is indented by 2 JR spaces. What am I doing wrong or is this the anticipated result JR of %WRAPPED? Allie If you use the %Wrapped macro the line needs to be unbroken, i.e., Allie %Wrapped="this should be one unbroken line of text" Allie The syntax should be as follows: Allie %Wrapped='On %ODATEEN %QINCLUDE="otime", you wrote the following in Allie regards to %QINCLUDE="bracket":' This is exactly what I have you see the result above. I would have thought it would have wrapped to the starting margin, i.e. indented by 2 spaces (where I like it) rather than to the leftmost position permitted. I also tried the %WRAPJUSTIFY with the same result. Allie On Tue, 16 Jan 2001 09:10:03 -0500, Jan contributed this to our Allie collective wisdom: JR I was trying to put quotation marks around the output of the JR regexp "bracket" but it produces a blank. Can anyone show me JR the right way to express this the logic behind the form? JR On %ODATEEN %QINCLUDE="otime", you wrote the following in regards Allie ^ Allie this is fine. JR to %QINCLUDE="='bracket'": Allie Why not just %QINCLUDE="bracket": ? Yes, under normal circumstances that's what I would have but what I'm trying to accomplish is to have a "around the output of the RexExp 'bracket'". 'Bracket' strips the eGroups list identifier, ex: [LIST], leaving only the subject. So continuing with my example, let's say the subject line for this msg (were it on eGroups) it might be [TBUDL] TB! v1.49 - newbie quoting the output of a regexp In my template I have replaced %OSUBJ with %QINCLUDE="bracket" would like to see the subject produced as: On Tuesday, January 16, 2001 18:28:13 -0500 you wrote the following in regards to "TB! v1.49 - newbie: quoting the output of a regexp": Allie Why the extra '='? The extra '=' is needed for the %Quotestyle macro Allie specifically. IOW, the only time this convention is used is for a %QUOTESTYLE macro? OK, that's easy for me to remember. Allie If you create a macro that has a value attached to it, this value is Allie bound by double quotations. Allie %Macro="value" Allie Now, if you wish to define another macro *within* the value for a Allie macro, you have to place two quotations for every one that would Allie appears within the first macros value. Wow, confusing. :=) Allie Anyway, here is an example: Allie %Macro1="Macro2=""value""" Allie ^^ ^^ Allie Note the doubled double quotations. Allie To avoid having a lot of doubled quotations you can do this: Allie %Macro1='Macro2="value"' Allie Basically you need to differentiate the recursed macros value from Allie that of the parent macros. In one case you use doubled double Allie quotations or you use single quotes for the parent macro and double Allie quotes for the recursed macro. You've explained this very clearly, Allie, I understand the concept so then my macro statement should look like this? %WRAPPED='On %ODATEEN %QINCLUDE="OTIME", you wrote the following in regards to %QINCLUDE='"bracket"':' (all on a single line) - -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA PGP-Key 0x4C9CDF9D Using TB! v1.49 ICQ 41116329 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOmTxG5ccVS5MnN+dEQIwRACfU9XiINALmEh4gRaBNGpWm4VkAO8AoIzR 9/OSJup4Vr+zcfUuP3QTsCGl =YE7i -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! v1.49 - newbie: quoting the output of a regexp
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Allie, On 16 January 2001 at 18:28:13 -0500 (which was 23:28 where I live) A . Curtis Martin wrote and made these points: Sorry to correct such a well worded explanation, but... ACM %Macro1="Macro2=""value""" ^ missing % sign, just to add to confusion ;-) ACM ^^ ^^ ACM Note the doubled double quotations. ACM To avoid having a lot of doubled quotations you can do this: ACM %Macro1='Macro2="value"' ^ missing % sign, just to add to confusion ;-) ACM Basically you need to differentiate the recursed macros value ACM from that of the parent macros. In one case you use doubled ACM double quotations or you use single quotes for the parent macro ACM and double quotes for the recursed macro. ... other than that, a good explanation. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.49c S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOmT2TznkJKuSnc2gEQJVLACfS/tHF3SRDhB2lg4SoXCqPUzbbwQAn13Y V+eNiYw44Lk4bh/vzwZZOT9g =gB+H -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! v1.49 - newbie: quoting the output of a regexp
Hello Jan, Historians believe that on Tue, 16 Jan 2001 at 20:10:40 GMT -0500, Jan Rifkinson [JR] typed: snip JR so then my macro statement should look like this? JR %WRAPPED='On %ODATEEN %QINCLUDE="OTIME", you wrote the following in regards to %QINCLUDE='"bracket"':' JR (all on a single line) Um, change that last %QInclude to: ''%QINCLUDE="bracket"'' Two things to notice. 1. You need to double the single quotes so TB knows that you're not trying to end the arguments to %Wrapped. This is the same reasoning as what Allie mentioned. 2. Put the single quotes around the entire macro %QINCLUDE="bracket" Ignoring some other syntax problems, the general form %QINCLUDE='"bracket"' is telling TB that you want to include the quick template with handle "bracket" (with quotes). That's not your goal. Instead %QINCLUDE="bracket" is one statement which generates some text. You can't break it up and still get the desired result. So to surround the text in the final message, you have to surround the full statement (macro) in the template. Does that help clear things up a bit? -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.49c under Windows 98 4.10 Build A All science is either physics or stamp collecting. -- E. Rutherford -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
The Bat! - suggestions - quoting sigs after replying with F4.
Hello The Bat! developers, I'm using The Bat! Version 1.48 Beta/11 Serial Number 4FF098A9 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Dodatek Service Pack. 1. There are some features I would like to see in your program: Then I mark some text and hit F4 to have it quoted in a message, I'd like TB to ignore the "-- " signature delimiter. This is quite obvious: if I mark the text, then I want *exactly* this to be quoted - this is my decision, not TB's one! Regards, -- Krzysztof J. Trybowski === -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- uin:4350719 -- http://www.trybik.i.krakow.pl --- pgp-keys: 0xC2AF5441 0xC6479839 ===( get-pgp-keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=send_key )=== -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Quoting part of a message on reply
Is there any way of quoting just part of a message on a reply? Eudora will (usually) quote just the highlighted portion of the original message. Is there way to do this in TheBat. I've looked in Option and Help, but cannot find any information. The only discussion I've found is whether to use %Quotes or %Text, both of which seem to imply the original message in its entirety. Thanks. -- Leonard S. Berkowitz mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Quoting part of a message on reply
Hi Leonard, On Mon, 4 Dec 2000 06:47:37 -0500GMT (04/12/2000, 19:47 +0800GMT), Leonard S. Berkowitz wrote: LSB Is there any way of quoting just part of a message on a reply? Eudora LSB will (usually) quote just the highlighted portion of the original LSB message. Is there way to do this in TheBat. Highlight the part of the message and hit F4. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.47 Halloween Edition under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Quoting part of a message on reply
On 04-12-2000 at 06:47:37GMT -0500 (which was 11:47 where I live) Leonard S. Berkowitz wrote regarding the subject of "Quoting part of a message on reply" LSB Is there any way of quoting just part of a message on a reply? Eudora LSB will (usually) quote just the highlighted portion of the original LSB message. Is there way to do this in TheBat. I've looked in Option and LSB Help, but cannot find any information. The only discussion I've found LSB is whether to use %Quotes or %Text, both of which seem to imply the LSB original message in its entirety. LSB Thanks. Hello Leonard S., Mark text and hit F4. Regards -- Manfred Ell using TheBat 1.48 Beta/9 on Windows 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1, RC 1.1 I never met a tagline I didn't like! -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Quoting part of a message on reply
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Leonard, On 04 December 2000 at 06:47:37 -0500 (which was 11:47 where I live) Leonard S. Berkowitz wrote and made these points: LSB Is there any way of quoting just part of a message on a reply? Yes. Mark the text you want to quote and press F4 or hold down the shift key and click the "reply" icon. Sadly this doesn't work with the "Reply to all" options. - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Consultant Software Engineer ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: http://www.silverstones.com/MarckPGP.asc ] Headline - Air Head Fired -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOiuJ4jnkJKuSnc2gEQLUSwCg4gBDY9t0+YML1utV/f/xWmenyeMAoJaE F6fVd8rL0O1SrmczzGtPyYse =caOc -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: ! 1.46d: quoting question
I respectfully disagree. The situation you describe is a very minor inconvenience (one key stroke). You have made the assumption that the responder wishes to comment on EVERY paragraph of the included text. A majority of the time, that is not the case. Personally, I find it difficult to follow "who said what" with your implementation of the %quotes macro. I STRONGLY prefer every line, including blank lines to include the quote mark. Can this be an optional setting in the next version? Regards, William L. Grant Stefan Tanurkov wrote: I guess, I should explain why. Blank lines are used for separating paragraphs, right? So, if you want to insert your comments between quoted paragraphs, you should place the cursor on the first blank line and start typing. Now, if the blank line is quoted, you should either remove quoting at the start of the line or press the Enter key, but you will end up with a new quoted line and you still have to remove quoting. :-) Both ways are not very comfortable, are they? That is why we decided not to quote blank lines. And, from my point of view, absence of quote marks at the start of blank lines makes quoted text more readable... -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: ! 1.46d: quoting question
Hello Bill, BG I respectfully disagree. The situation you describe is a very BG minor inconvenience (one key stroke). You have made the assumption BG that the responder wishes to comment on EVERY paragraph of the BG included text. A majority of the time, that is not the case. Huh? :-) Not for me, definitely. I find it useless to quote entire message at the bottom because it is mere waste of bandwidth... Well, it is my personal opinion, some my colleagues may disagree with me, but I actually doubt... BG Personally, I find it difficult to follow "who said what" with your BG implementation of the %quotes macro. I STRONGLY prefer every line, BG including blank lines to include the quote mark. Can this be an BG optional setting in the next version? Well, we can include it in our to-do list (it is very long and there is no guarantee such a feature will appear in the next version), but I really do not see the point. What is wrong with an empty line except it makes easier to read quoted paragraphs? :-) -- Regards, Stefan ...Variables won't; constants aren't. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: ! 1.46d: quoting question
-- On Sunday, October 22, 2000, 1:31:54 PM, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: BG Personally, I find it difficult to follow "who said what" with your BG implementation of the %quotes macro. I STRONGLY prefer every line, BG including blank lines to include the quote mark. Can this be an BG optional setting in the next version? Well, we can include it in our to-do list (it is very long and there is no guarantee such a feature will appear in the next version), but I really do not see the point. What is wrong with an empty line except it makes easier to read quoted paragraphs? :-) I have a related suggestion/question: Is it possible now (or in a future version) to allow quote identifying options to be set separately by folder, rather than globally. The use of initials or quotes, as with BG above, is tremendously helpful for participation in discussion lists like this. However, it is generally not needed in routine correspondence, and even if it were used, I would probably have different preferences for business/personal use. If this feature already is available, please let me know how to invoke it. So far, I have only been able to find this in setting my global options. -Abigail -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: ! 1.46d: quoting question
Hello Abigail, On Sun, 22 Oct 2000 at 16:28:19 GMT -0700 (which was 4:28 PM where I live) witnesses say Abigail Marshall typed: Is it possible now (or in a future version) to allow quote identifying options to be set separately by folder, rather than globally. Use the %Quotestyle macro your templates. Remember this macro must precede the %Quotes macro. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/7 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: ! 1.46d: quoting question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Abigail, On 23 October 2000 at 16:28:19 GMT -0700 (which was 00:28 where I live) Abigail Marshall wrote and made these points on the subject of "! 1.46d: quoting question": AM Is it possible now (or in a future version) to allow quote AM identifying options to be set separately by folder, Yes, by using the %QUOTESTYLE="?" macro in folder / address book templates. From the Help on the %QUOTESTYLE macro: QUOTESTYLE=expression - specify the quotation sign prefix used after this macro. Expression can be any of the following: NONE- use an empty prefix (a standard) I - use initials of the sender of the original message IF - use the first initial of the sender of the original message N - use the full name of the sender of the original message F - use the first name of the sender of the original message L - use the last name of the sender of the original message =text - use the text as the prefix, e.g. %QUOTESTYLE==-| AM If this feature already is available, please let me know how to invoke AM it. So far, I have only been able to find this in setting my global AM options. HTH - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] Dry Cleaners: Drop your pants here TB! v1.47 Beta/7 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOfN9hDnkJKuSnc2gEQIgbACgmm6maFm1VP5a5A7hdrXJcbMlyyQAnjHp 5NF0oFNAAirM9ktTAphMIpKl =OlQS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: ! 1.46d: quoting question
On 10/22/2000 at 4:51 PM, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: MDP Yes, by using the %QUOTESTYLE="?" macro in folder / address book MDP templates. From the Help on the %QUOTESTYLE macro: Sure makes me wish I could specify templates for Inbox, since I have 15-odd mailing lists to use this quoting style with, and one Inbox to not use it with. I don't want to have to set up a custom template for each mailing list folder. :T Geo -- George Mealer [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Children are like TV sets. When they start acting weird, whack them across the eyes with a big rubber basketball shoe." -- Hunter S. Thompson -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: ! 1.46d: quoting question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi George, On 23 October 2000 at 18:56:39 GMT -0700 (which was 02:56 where I live) George Mealer wrote and made these points on the subject of "! 1.46d: quoting question": MDP Yes, by using the %QUOTESTYLE="?" macro in folder / address book MDP templates. From the Help on the %QUOTESTYLE macro: GM Sure makes me wish I could specify templates for Inbox, since I have GM 15-odd mailing lists to use this quoting style with, and one Inbox to GM not use it with. I don't want to have to set up a custom template for GM each mailing list folder. :T So set up a Quick Template with the bulk of the template and the rest in the Address Book entries for each list calling on the QT with %QINCLUDE="Handle" with the "Handle" of the QT you have defined. That way, if you want to have a universal style change, you only have to change the QT once. By associating with the AB entry for the list, you can split list traffic over multiple folders without having to re-specify the templates for the list because it's tied to the address. - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] Headline - Some Pieces of Rock Hudson Sold at Auction TB! v1.47 Beta/7 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOfOeKTnkJKuSnc2gEQJfCwCg5gO/aykPkSpfAsgiNeq+CwcrbiwAoNdT O57njpvy/kQqNnM7YOfA1PDt =wILm -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: ! 1.46d: quoting question
-- On Sunday, October 22, 2000, 4:51:32 PM, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: : AM Is it possible now (or in a future version) to allow quote AM identifying options to be set separately by folder, MDP Yes, by using the %QUOTESTYLE="?" macro in folder / address book MDP templates. From the Help on the %QUOTESTYLE macro: Thanks :-) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: ! 1.46d: quoting question
Dear Marck, BG I use the %quotes macro in my reply template, but as you can see, BG I still get the blank lines. MDP Yes, that's how the %QUOTES macro works. I guess, I should explain why. Blank lines are used for separating paragraphs, right? So, if you want to insert your comments between quoted paragraphs, you should place the cursor on the first blank line and start typing. Now, if the blank line is quoted, you should either remove quoting at the start of the line or press the Enter key, but you will end up with a new quoted line and you still have to remove quoting. :-) Both ways are not very comfortable, are they? That is why we decided not to quote blank lines. And, from my point of view, absence of quote marks at the start of blank lines makes quoted text more readable... -- Sincerely, Stefan ...Brain over - Insert coin -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: ! 1.46d: quoting question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Bill, On 20 October 2000 at 22:56:13 GMT -0400 (which was 03:56 where I live) Bill Grant wrote and made these points on the subject of "! 1.46d: quoting question": B I have the %QUOTES macro in my Reply template; but for mailing B list replies (because I'm mostly on digests and they tend to be B long) I normally copy+paste just the bit I want to reply to. Manual copy and pasting as quote will lead to blank lines being quoted. However, quotations generated using the quotes macro will not have blank lines being quoted. BG Really, Curtis? Is that a fix that has happened since ver 1.45? Nothing has changed - Curtis was just "tellin; it how it is". BG I use the %quotes macro in my reply template, but as you can see, BG I still get the blank lines. Yes, that's how the %QUOTES macro works. To have blank lines prefaced with the quote prefix, the only way is to use the paste facility. I suppose you could change your templates to use the %CLIPBOARD macro and confine yourself to copying the quote text to the clipboard before replying. - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] Kids Stuff: When people run around and around in circles we say they are crazy. When planets do it we say they are orbiting. TB! v1.47 Beta/7 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOfAJZDnkJKuSnc2gEQKUXACfWWRcZ+idkmLyfbjzh7jCvrPAuGsAn0BZ vmelblFWZ/INM3mTVOpY5s3L =2cZ8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: ! 1.46d: quoting question
I REALLY hope that RIT fixes this in version 2! Please, RIT? Please? Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: BG I use the %quotes macro in my reply template, but as you can see, BG I still get the blank lines. Yes, that's how the %QUOTES macro works. To have blank lines prefaced with the quote prefix, the only way is to use the paste facility. I suppose you could change your templates to use the %CLIPBOARD macro and confine yourself to copying the quote text to the clipboard before replying. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: ! 1.46d: quoting question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 20 Oct 2000 19:37:12 -0400, Bill Grant wrote: BG I REALLY hope that RIT fixes this in version 2! Please, RIT? Please? ^ Fixes? It's not broken. Its just an implementation decision. I hope they make it optional or provide an easier facility for you to quote the way you wish to. Fixing means it's broken and I disagree with that. Yes, that's how the %QUOTES macro works. To have blank lines prefaced with the quote prefix, the only way is to use the paste facility. I suppose you could change your templates to use the %CLIPBOARD macro and confine yourself to copying the quote text to the clipboard before replying. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Xerox never comes up with anything original anymore. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 (S/N CCA4F9B8) «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOfDaQfAXeSHuB5k3EQJ1MQCfRNV36V70fb/KQBw5NNCBTaDDOLcAoJZf kGsgXm/AMlIdM4tq/Ecwvdmt =XVk4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: ! 1.46d: quoting question
Really, Curtis? Is that a fix that has happened since ver 1.45? I use the %quotes macro in my reply template, but as you can see, I still get the blank lines. I am using version 1.45. Please tell me that this problem is fixed in 1.46d! I will upgrade immediately! Thanks Bill Grant A. Curtis Martin wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 16 Oct 2000 13:14:05 +1300, Britta wrote: Do you use the %quotes macro to quote text for your replies or do you always manually copy and paste as quote? B I have the %QUOTES macro in my Reply template; but for mailing list B replies (because I'm mostly on digests and they tend to be long) I B normally copy+paste just the bit I want to reply to. Manual copy and pasting as quote will lead to blank lines being quoted. However, quotations generated using the quotes macro will not have blank lines being quoted. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: ! 1.46d: quoting question
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 16/10/2000 18:40 : Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 11:17:22 +0800 From: Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just a hint: after you have marked the part you want to quote, no need to actually cp; just hit F4. This will reply quoting marked text only. ;-) thank you, Thomas - I had already picked up that tip from earlier messages; it's just that old habits die hard :) I'm learning all sorts of useful stuff from this list, it's great - but my mailing-list-reading-time has increased exponentially! Cheers, Tuesday, 17 October 2000 11:10 ~~ Britta [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! 1.46d ~~ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: ! 1.46d: quoting question
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 16/10/2000 18:40 : Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 22:43:05 -0500 From: A. Curtis Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Manual copy and pasting as quote will lead to blank lines being quoted. However, quotations generated using the quotes macro will not have blank lines being quoted. ah - that puzzle is finally solved :) thanks. Tuesday, 17 October 2000 11:13 ~~ Britta [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! 1.46d ~~ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: ! 1.46d: quoting question
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 19:08:15 -0500 From: A. Curtis Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you use the %quotes macro to quote text for your replies or do you always manually copy and paste as quote? I have the %QUOTES macro in my Reply template; but for mailing list replies (because I'm mostly on digests and they tend to be long) I normally copy+paste just the bit I want to reply to. Regards, Monday, 16 October 2000 13:11 ~~ Britta [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! 1.46d ~~ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: ! 1.46d: quoting question
Hi Britta, On Mon, 16 Oct 2000 13:14:05 +1300GMT (16/10/2000, 08:14 +0800GMT), Britta wrote: B I have the %QUOTES macro in my Reply template; but for mailing list B replies (because I'm mostly on digests and they tend to be long) I B normally copy+paste just the bit I want to reply to. Just a hint: after you have marked the part you want to quote, no need to actually cp; just hit F4. This will reply quoting marked text only. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.46d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: ! 1.46d: quoting question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 16 Oct 2000 11:17:22 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote: B I have the %QUOTES macro in my Reply template; but for mailing list B replies (because I'm mostly on digests and they tend to be long) I B normally copy+paste just the bit I want to reply to. TF Just a hint: after you have marked the part you want to quote, no need TF to actually cp; just hit F4. This will reply quoting marked text TF only. ;-) This can be a problem with the digests because of the signature delimiters that are present. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Socialism is the equal distribution of poverty. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 (S/N CCA4F9B8) «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOep48vAXeSHuB5k3EQL9mACfWCb338iWzeTGCFyw3Ualf/JRM4IAnAlo 89FNz1gs/9l+suBJZ+DPypfL =TVWT -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: ! 1.46d: quoting question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 16 Oct 2000 13:14:05 +1300, Britta wrote: Do you use the %quotes macro to quote text for your replies or do you always manually copy and paste as quote? B I have the %QUOTES macro in my Reply template; but for mailing list B replies (because I'm mostly on digests and they tend to be long) I B normally copy+paste just the bit I want to reply to. Manual copy and pasting as quote will lead to blank lines being quoted. However, quotations generated using the quotes macro will not have blank lines being quoted. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "I am Lancelot of Borg. Resistance is feudal. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 (S/N CCA4F9B8) «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOep5SfAXeSHuB5k3EQJoxwCgk93yT11dgX/E1x7ygGE8Z48ZmeEAninE xYJ+XUrFCNs86VUcVaoL9Aq/ =akJW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: ! 1.46d: quoting question
Hi Allie, On Sun, 15 Oct 2000 22:41:38 -0500GMT (16/10/2000, 11:41 +0800GMT), A . Curtis Martin wrote: TF Just a hint: after you have marked the part you want to quote, no need TF to actually cp; just hit F4. This will reply quoting marked text TF only. ;-) ACM This can be a problem with the digests because of the signature ACM delimiters that are present. What does this have to do with sig delimiters? If you want to reply to a message, you mark the body part (oops) you want to quote, regardless of whether or not there is any sig with or without delimiters. Or not? -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.46d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: ! 1.46d: quoting question
Hello Thomas, Britta other fellow TB! Users, Sunday, October 15, 2000, Tom stated in response to Britta's saying: B I have the %QUOTES macro in my Reply template; but for mailing B list replies (because I'm mostly on digests and they tend to be B long) I normally copy+paste just the bit I want to reply to. TF Just a hint: after you have marked the part you want to quote, TF no need to actually cp; just hit F4. This will reply quoting TF marked text only. ;-) Also, don't forget that you can paste what you've copied as a quote using alt+insert (another option, although not necessarily the best in this case). Douglas -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: ! 1.46d: quoting question
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 22:29:09 +0100 From: "Marck D. Pearlstone" [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Britta, On 13 October 2000 at 09:25:40 GMT +1300 (which was 21:25 where I live) Britta wrote and made these points on the subject of "! 1.46d: quoting question": In TheBat! 1.46d is there a way to allow the quote character "" to appear on a line space when quoting a message with paragraphs? B and A. Curtis Martin replied: Unfortunately, not an easy one. If you manually quote your text it will will be quoted the way that you want it to be. B I am totally mystified by this ... TB! has always quoted *including B line spaces* for me, by default. Yes, but the lines in-between the paragraphs are left blank with no quotation prefix. That is the issue here. Q: Is your email address anything to do with Mr Terry Pratchett? Hi Marck, this time I left the quotation exactly as TB brings it up for me in any Reply (or just when I copy to the clipboard and then use ALT+INS for 'quote-pasting') - sorry, should've done that the first time round! :) It's just a habit of mine to prune out some of the quote prefixes between lines if there are a lot, especially if the quoting level goes back two or three replies deep ... I just prefer the cleaner look of *not* having the prefixes in the spacer lines - LOL, and other people want them! I've been asked the Terry Pratchett question before ... I haven't read the books and didn't know there was a Morepork in there. The morepork here in NZ is our small native owl. Just noticed your next message: Got it! Of course TB can't (at this stage) quote the blank lines. Whose are they really? Were they in the immediate message to which this reply is address or from the previous level and another client has failed to quote them. You're right here in that I think I quoted from two separate messages and copy-pasted the bits into my reply message. Quoting blank lines can end up misleading in mutli-level replies. I have seen many Eudora quoted messages that, frankly, just look a mess. I'm glad I'm not the only neatness freak around here! :) Cheers, Sunday, 15 October 2000 10:53 ~~ Britta [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! 1.46d ~~ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: ! 1.46d: quoting question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 15 Oct 2000 11:12:19 +1300, Britta wrote: [snip] B this time I left the quotation exactly as TB brings it up for me in B any Reply (or just when I copy to the clipboard and then use ALT+INS for B 'quote-pasting') - sorry, should've done that the first time round! :) Do you use the %quotes macro to quote text for your replies or do you always manually copy and paste as quote? - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Oxymoron: Military Intelligence " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 (S/N CCA4F9B8) «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA+AwUBOej1b/AXeSHuB5k3EQIShgCgw/pU+NwCZjM1FyiH6c7klNM1WmMAmMJN TguyDhcUCY5EfAY93l7ZWEI= =6uSE -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: ! 1.46d: quoting question
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 14:54:29 -0400 From: Mark Knipfer [EMAIL PROTECTED] In TheBat! 1.46d is there a way to allow the quote character "" to appear on a line space when quoting a message with paragraphs? and A. Curtis Martin replied: Unfortunately, not an easy one. If you manually quote your text it will will be quoted the way that you want it to be. I am totally mystified by this ... TB! has always quoted *including line spaces* for me, by default. Regards, Saturday, 14 October 2000 09:18 ~~ Britta [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! 1.46d ~~ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
