Re: to moderators

[Mica Mijatovic]

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   @  @  when Jurgen Haug wrote:

> Hello jan,

> Thursday, July 8, 2004, 2:34:02 PM, you wrote:

>> have you considered starting a separate smilie list? 

> good idea! i will join it ;-)

Another voice here! :-)

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have you considered starting a separate smilie list? 

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Re: Open Ltr to Moderators

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Leif,

On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 10:33:46 -0700 GMT (16/03/2004, 00:33 +0700 GMT),
Leif Gregory wrote:

LG> Long as you've made the username part sufficiently complex as to avoid
LG> accidental random hits.

LG> Something like TBx84374ndms etc.

Well, you see my email address. I don't think there will be a random
hit.

LG> Otherwise you'll have a false positive. When I created my daughter's
LG> domain name and set the catchall e-mail address to dump into my home
LG> mailbox, I received spam on it in less than 48 hours,

New domain names can be looked up by bots, and it is easy to just put
something in front, which will be caught by the catch-all.

LG> and there aren't any real mail addresses on it, nor have any been
LG> used. (i.e. I never used an e-mail address from her domain).

Bots routinely search whois databases. Well, they are on the net,
aren't they?

f'up2tbot... well, I haven't registered this address with TBOT. :-(

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Re: Open Ltr to Moderators

[Leif Gregory]

Hello Thomas,

Monday, March 15, 2004, 6:56:12 AM, you wrote:
Thomas> I've found a solution: I created a new freemail address for
Thomas> TBUDL and TBBETA exclusively. If no unreasonable number of
Thomas> spam mails arrive within, say, a month, I'll stand corrected.


Long as you've made the username part sufficiently complex as to avoid
accidental random hits.

Something like TBx84374ndms etc.

Otherwise you'll have a false positive. When I created my daughter's
domain name and set the catchall e-mail address to dump into my home
mailbox, I received spam on it in less than 48 hours, and there aren't
any real mail addresses on it, nor have any been used. (i.e. I never
used an e-mail address from her domain).



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Re: Open Ltr to Moderators

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Q179,

On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 10:57:55 EST GMT (15/03/2004, 22:57 +0700 GMT),
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Qac> I'd like to unsubcribe the AOL address and then resubscribe with
Qac> a special TB address on my own domain. I know how to subscribe,
Qac> but not how to unsubscribe.

Since I just unsubscribed in order to re-subscribe with this address,
I can tell you it's easy:

Highlight any message in the list. Go to Specials / Mailing Lists /
Unsubscribe. Click on it, and send the resulting email.

You will get an email back that asks your to confirm your
unsubscription. All you have to do is high Reply and send the message.

You will get a confirmation that your are unsubscribed. Voila.

Now, here is a beauty: alt-drag your TBUDL folder from the old account
right into the new account. All the threads will be contained, and new
messages will thread fine into them!

But of course, you will have to create a new filter for TBUDL in that
account. Go to the TBUDL filter in the old account, and right-click on
it while you are in the filter list. Choose Copy.

Then open the Sorting Office in the new account, open the Incoming
filters and right-click so you can choose Paste. The filter with all
its intrinsic details will be ready to serve you.

This may be more detailled than you ask for, but others may have the
same idea.

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Re: Open Ltr to Moderators

[Marck D Pearlstone]

Dear Eddie,

@15-Mar-2004, 10:57  (15-Mar 15:57 UK time) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [E] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

E> Will someone be so kind as to provide me a direct link and to the
E> unsubscribe page along with any necessary instructions?

We did. The address of the instructions is on (or attached to in
this case) every message in the list.

See www.silverstones.com/thebat/tbudlinfo.html

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Re: Open Ltr to Moderators

[Q179]

Hi all,

I signed up for this forum a long time ago using this AOL address.  I'd like 
to unsubcribe the AOL address and then resubscribe with a special TB address 
on my own domain.  I know how to subscribe, but not how to unsubscribe.

Will someone be so kind as to provide me a direct link and to the unsubscribe 
page along with any necessary instructions?

Most appreciated!

Eddie

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Re: Open Ltr to Moderators

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Marck,

On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 12:27:47 + GMT (15/03/2004, 19:27 +0700 GMT),
Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

JS>> Doesn't GMane have that they'll start feeding gmane.* hierarchy
JS>> to other sites in their TODO?

MDP> Yes, and with the security steps they employ and the advice we now
MDP> give regarding Message ID domain fudging, posts distributed via
MDP> GMane are completely safe. So I have no fears at all about gmane
MDP> opening up their feeds.

I've found a solution: I created a new freemail address for TBUDL and
TBBETA exclusively. If no unreasonable number of spam mails arrive
within, say, a month, I'll stand corrected.

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Re: Open Ltr to Moderators

[Marck D Pearlstone]

Dear Jernej,

@15-Mar-2004, 12:42 +0100 (15-Mar 11:42 UK time) Jernej Simončič
[JS] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Allie:

>> Propagating to Usenet is something we'll *never* do. It's simply
>> too insecure. Take a look at the list footers tbudl information
>> page for details on that point. If there's to be a usenet group,
>> it would have to be separate and independent of this mailing
>> list.

JS> Doesn't GMane have that they'll start feeding gmane.* hierarchy
JS> to other sites in their TODO?

Yes, and with the security steps they employ and the advice we now
give regarding Message ID domain fudging, posts distributed via
GMane are completely safe. So I have no fears at all about gmane
opening up their feeds.

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Re: Open Ltr to Moderators

[Jernej Simončič]

On Monday, March 15, 2004, 11:13:47, Allie Martin wrote:

> Propagating to Usenet is something we'll *never* do. It's simply too
> insecure. Take a look at the list footers tbudl information page for
> details on that point. If there's to be a usenet group, it would have
> to be separate and independent of this mailing list.

Doesn't GMane have that they'll start feeding gmane.* hierarchy to other
sites in their TODO?

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Re: Open Ltr to Moderators

[Allie Martin]

Zparticle, [Z] wrote:

Z> So I'll second the kudos for a step in the right direction!  Next
Z> step: get the group propagated to usenet proper so that it's easier
Z> for everyone to find and can be searched with Google (and doesn't
Z> require me to run a separate instance of Agent for a single group).

Propagating to Usenet is something we'll *never* do. It's simply too
insecure. Take a look at the list footers tbudl information page for
details on that point. If there's to be a usenet group, it would have
to be separate and independent of this mailing list.

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Re: Open Ltr to Moderators

[Leif Gregory]

Hello Joseph,

Friday, March 12, 2004, 8:22:24 AM, you wrote:
Joseph> Thank you, moderators, for having a collectively open mind,
Joseph> taking time from your other activities, and making a
Joseph> concentrated effort to explore the best newsserver-related
Joseph> options, arrange for the mirror, and explain various aspects
Joseph> of it to us users/subscribers.


You're welcome! And thanks for your kind note.



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Open Ltr to Moderators

[Joseph N.]

Thank you, moderators, for having a collectively open mind, taking 
time from your other activities, and making a concentrated effort to 
explore the best newsserver-related options, arrange for the mirror, 
and explain various aspects of it to us users/subscribers.

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Re: Note to Moderators (no subjects)

[Marck D. Pearlstone]

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Hi Jan,

On 16 February 2001 at  08:38:33 -0500 (which was 13:38 where I  live)
Jan Rifkinson wrote and made these points:

JR> When I first started on this list, I would, on occasion, subject
JR> my msgs "a simple question" & was *properly* lambasted for not
JR> providing a meaningful subject line for the convenience of other
JR> list members.

JR> Over time I have recognized the "truth" of this courtesy which is
JR> a long way of saying that we are getting a fair number of (No
JR> Subject) msgs on this list.

JR> Maybe a refresher from the moderators would be timely. Thank you.

A timely and well phrased reminder Jan. Thank you for that.

Yes, it is perfectly true that message subjects are getting less clear
and I would certainly like to see that improve.


So, posters, please try to make your Subject heading pertinent and
clear when writing to the list.

Thank you.


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Note to Moderators (no subjects)

[Jan Rifkinson]

Hello TB Moderators.

  When I first started on this list, I would, on occasion, subject my
  msgs "a simple question" & was *properly* lambasted for not
  providing a meaningful subject line for the convenience of other
  list members.

  Over time I have recognized the "truth" of this courtesy which is a
  long way of saying that we are getting a fair number of (No Subject)
  msgs on this list.

  Maybe a refresher from the moderators would be timely. Thank you.

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