Re: [TCP] Friday nuttiness...

2007-08-20 Thread J M
Another thing that's alluring about text messaging is that it allows 
people to communicate in places where it's not typical acceptable, or very 
difficult, to talk or hear.


Examples of the former are classrooms(!), libraries, hospitals (though some 
have restrictions with regards to having phones on in them), and church!


Examples of the latter include bars and rock concerts, where it's often 
impossible to hear, so text messaging is a perfect solution.


John



From: Rick Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Bonnie Granat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [TCP] Friday nuttiness...
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 21:25:05 -0500

Hi all

Personally, I'm very curious about the whole text messaging phenomenon.
I mean, how is it remotely possible that text messaging is simpler to
accomplish than simply dialing up the other person and speaking? E-Mail,
I somewhat understand, as it seems fairly simple to type on a full
keyboard. But on the surface, it seems that text messaging is quite a
bit more difficult, as you are mostly limited to the tiny phone keypad.

Is there anyone among us that can explain the allure? What am I missing?

Cheers... Rick :)

Bonnie Granat wrote:
 There's a market for old phones, I believe, so you can probably find 
one.



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Re: [TCP] Friday nuttiness...

2007-08-20 Thread Bill Swallow
 I text message a lot. A friend who lives in MV texts me all the time. If
 he's on the road and not on IM, or having lunch somewhere, and is thinking
 of me, we text. If my manager is thinking of something she forgot to tell me
 and she's at the docs, we text. If I'm thinking of someone, I'll text.

 Granted, texting using my Blackberry is easier than with my RaZR, but if you
 do it enough you get used to it and can type quite quickly. Plus, there's
 the little acronyms and shortcuts (although they didn't work so well for
 blind beau, since the reader on his Palm would pronounce the letters if it
 didn't recognize the words -- he always had to stop and think about c u sn
 or lvg now).

I txt a lot as well, mainly because most of my family and many of my
friends primarily txt rather than call. I had to upgrade to an
unlimited txt plan just to keep my cell bills down. ;) But it's
convenient for all the reasons that people have listed. Plus many
phones now have a full language dictionary that will narrow your word
options down as you key, removing the need to hit a key multiple
times.

For example, hello is 43556 instead of 443355666.

I'll admit a qwerty pad would be useful, but cell-size is just too
small to be much more efficient, IMO. At least for the price tag. For
now I'm happy with my quasi-intelligent cell phone.

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[TCP] Textaholic / emailaholics - how do you keep it from taking over?

2007-08-20 Thread Martinek, Carla
-Original Message-
From: Melissa Nelson
 My niece is a textaholic. I have to say I find it a bit annoying
because 
 she will check her text messages every other minute when we do
something. :)

This makes a great transition into another subject, relevant to our
jobs.

I'm subscribed to multiple lists (applications, dita, stc, tech
writing...) and if I were to try and keep up with all of the postings on
every list, I'd go absolutely bonkers.

So here's the question:  What do you do to manage the overflow of
electronic messaging so that it doesn't eat up your day and
productivity?

For me, I use filters in my mail.  LOTS and LOTS of filters and folders
for sorting.  

Mail from coworkers is usually project-related, and it gets read
relatively soon, usually within an hour.  If it's something from a list,
I may not read it until lunchtime, or I may just mark all messages as
read because there aren't any subject lines in the folder that pique
my interest.  (One prime reason for keeping subject lines current to the
actual discussion!!)  Some of the lists I have very little to do on, but
for various reasons I want to keep up on what's happening there because
it does affect my job in some small way.

I've also worked hard to purge the urge to respond to everyone's
questions on lists. Yes, I may know the answer, but there's probably 20
others who also know it. I first check to see if my answer would be
*unique* before I take the time to craft a response.  If it isn't,
there's no reason to post a me too response.

And finally, I try *not* to jump to my email every time I get a
notification of a new email.  :-)  That's darn hard, but it can be done.
If I'm really in crunch time, I'll close my email application altogether
and only open it once an hour or so, just to check work messages.  

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Re: [TCP] Textaholic / emailaholics - how do you keep it from taking over?

2007-08-20 Thread Char James-Tanny
 I'm subscribed to multiple lists (applications, dita, stc, tech
 writing...) and if I were to try and keep up with all of the postings on
 every list, I'd go absolutely bonkers.

 So here's the question:  What do you do to manage the overflow of
 electronic messaging so that it doesn't eat up your day and
 productivity?

I use one email addy for most of my lists (a gmail account), and one
for everything else.

The problem is when folks send email to my gmail account, thinking
I'll see it ;-) I, too, mark many messages are read, especially when
I'm travelling, and then find offlist emails a month after they've
been posted when I'm permanently deleting old posts.

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Re: [TCP] Friday nuttiness...

2007-08-20 Thread Jones, Donna
Melissa Nelson wrote:
OK I am feeling like a total techno-dork. I have NO IDEA how to work the

text feature on my phone, nor did I on my old phone! Once in a while I
will 
get a text message from someone and then be like DAMMIT and have to
call 
or email them back.


You're not alone, Melissa. I couldn't tell you if my phone even has a
text feature, and I honestly don't care if it does. My life doesn't
revolve around being constantly in contact with everyone and
communicating every thought as it happens. I enjoy being unavailable
sometimes.

I hate it when you're with someone whose phone rings every 3 minutes,
especially when the person feels the need to take every single call.
It's rudeness at a high-tech level. I shouldn't have to stand there
trying to remember what we were talking about while you chat with
whoever interrupted us. Either take care of all your junk before meeting
me, turn off your stupid phone, or don't meet me at all.

Mondays and pet peeves don't mix!
 
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Re: [TCP] Friday nuttiness...

2007-08-20 Thread Sue Heim
You have to remember, some of us are very global these days. For example,
most of my closest friends live out of my state (some people never lived
here, some relocated away). I also remain close with people I worked with in
OC (even tho I live in San Diego). And I work for a Bay Area company, which
means I am offsite about 100% of the time.

I don't need to answer every phone call and every text message, and I won't
if it's after work hours. And most of my friends are the same way... if we
are out enjoying a lovely dinner and someone's phone rings, that person will
check the caller ID and then immediately silence the phone. We all show
respect towards one another.

My Blackberry is my work lifeline. My cell phone is my home lifeline. Yes,
I'll turn them both off. But it's nice to be able to check email while
waiting for a doc appt, or to respond to a quick question. I love having
Google Maps on my BB -- I no longer get lost and no longer have to pay for
calls to 4-1-1 to look up a phone number.

My work revolves around technology. My life is involved in technology And I
quite enjoy it.
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On 8/20/07, Jones, Donna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Melissa Nelson wrote:
 OK I am feeling like a total techno-dork. I have NO IDEA how to work the

 text feature on my phone, nor did I on my old phone! Once in a while I
 will
 get a text message from someone and then be like DAMMIT and have to
 call
 or email them back.


 You're not alone, Melissa. I couldn't tell you if my phone even has a
 text feature, and I honestly don't care if it does. My life doesn't
 revolve around being constantly in contact with everyone and
 communicating every thought as it happens. I enjoy being unavailable
 sometimes.

 I hate it when you're with someone whose phone rings every 3 minutes,
 especially when the person feels the need to take every single call.
 It's rudeness at a high-tech level. I shouldn't have to stand there
 trying to remember what we were talking about while you chat with
 whoever interrupted us. Either take care of all your junk before meeting
 me, turn off your stupid phone, or don't meet me at all.

 Mondays and pet peeves don't mix!

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Re: [TCP] Friday nuttiness...

2007-08-20 Thread Char James-Tanny
 My work revolves around technology. My life is involved in technology And I
 quite enjoy it.

And she'll tell you that she's not a geek ;-)

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Re: [TCP] Friday nuttiness...

2007-08-20 Thread Chris Borokowski
A profound observation that I think is true for many of us. There's a
time for phones and computers, and times for other things too. Do too
much of any one and you starve the other parts of your life. I think it
takes a few years of immersion in technology for most people to learn
that, and realize that if their BlackBerries and iPhones fell off the
face of the earth, they as people would be O.K. anyway.

--- Jones, Donna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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Re: [TCP] Textaholic / emailaholics - how do you keep it from taking over?

2007-08-20 Thread Bryan Sherman
Gmail is my tool of choice for lists now. The best part is the
threaded conversations. When someone posts about why Framemaker is so
much better than Word... or Word so much better than Framemaker, I can
skip the whole thread. This also comes in handy if three-letter
abbreviations like 'DFD' enter a thread... ;-)

It breaks down when folks rename a subject... but is the best tool to
get through some of my high volume threads.

Discovering that the Filter could label a message, and skip my inbox
helped a lot. That way I can 'ignore' mailing lists until an
appropriate time (like over lunch). That is a HUGE productivity boost
for me. Otherwise I can get too easily distracted during the work day.

On 8/20/07, Martinek, Carla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This makes a great transition into another subject, relevant to our
 jobs.

 I'm subscribed to multiple lists (applications, dita, stc, tech
 writing...) and if I were to try and keep up with all of the postings on
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 So here's the question:  What do you do to manage the overflow of
 electronic messaging so that it doesn't eat up your day and
 productivity?

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Re: [TCP] Textaholic / emailaholics - how do you keep it from taking over?

2007-08-20 Thread Bill Swallow
 So here's the question:  What do you do to manage the overflow of
 electronic messaging so that it doesn't eat up your day and
 productivity?

Those who know me will say this is an understatement... I am connected. ;-)

I have four primary e-mail addresses. One's devoted to work, one's
devoted to my profession (this one), one is for tying together all of
my personal contacts, and another just for fun. I use Gmail for the
fun and professional one, and make good use of filters and archiving.
I don't have to read everything that comes in, but in a pinch I can
use Gmail's search to get at what I need.

I'm subscribed to well over 40 listservs, so Gmail has saved my butt
with regard to staying productive. ;-)

And then of course I use a RSS reader for blog and web site content
aggregation. My cell phone is my primary phone, and much of it comes
via txt, which is highly convenient (combined with caller ID) because
I can read them as I have time. If someone really needs to reach me,
they can call.

-- 
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Re: [TCP] Textaholic / emailaholics - how do you keep it from takingover?

2007-08-20 Thread Rhonda Bracey
Hi Carla

If you're using Outlook, you can turn off the email notification thing.
That may stop the urge to check every time an email comes in.

And there's a guy out there now proclaiming the 4-hour work week (Tim
Ferriss). One thing he does is read/respond to email once a week and at
a prescribed time. To quote from an interview he did on CNN: To avoid
wasting time on business e-mail, I check it only an hour each Monday. I
weaned myself from logging in, starting by turning off the audible alert
and looking at it twice a day, at noon and 4. Then I reduced the
frequency. I never log into e-mail first thing in the morning.
(http://money.cnn.com/2007/05/04/magazines/fsb/4_hour_week.fsb/index.htm
)

Website: http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/

Podcast from SxSW conference:
http://2007.sxsw.com/blogs/podcasts.php/2007/03/19/the_4_hour_workweek_s
ecrets_of_doing_mor

Of course, there's lots of other stuff he does that supports that 'one
hour a week' thing which you may not be able to do. But some of his
principles and tips may work for you.

Rhonda


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On Behalf Of Martinek, Carla
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Subject: [TCP] Textaholic / emailaholics - how do you keep it from
takingover?

-Original Message-
From: Melissa Nelson
 My niece is a textaholic. I have to say I find it a bit annoying
because 
 she will check her text messages every other minute when we do
something. :)

This makes a great transition into another subject, relevant to our
jobs.

I'm subscribed to multiple lists (applications, dita, stc, tech
writing...) and if I were to try and keep up with all of the postings on
every list, I'd go absolutely bonkers.

So here's the question:  What do you do to manage the overflow of
electronic messaging so that it doesn't eat up your day and
productivity?

For me, I use filters in my mail.  LOTS and LOTS of filters and folders
for sorting.  

Mail from coworkers is usually project-related, and it gets read
relatively soon, usually within an hour.  If it's something from a list,
I may not read it until lunchtime, or I may just mark all messages as
read because there aren't any subject lines in the folder that pique
my interest.  (One prime reason for keeping subject lines current to the
actual discussion!!)  Some of the lists I have very little to do on, but
for various reasons I want to keep up on what's happening there because
it does affect my job in some small way.

I've also worked hard to purge the urge to respond to everyone's
questions on lists. Yes, I may know the answer, but there's probably 20
others who also know it. I first check to see if my answer would be
*unique* before I take the time to craft a response.  If it isn't,
there's no reason to post a me too response.

And finally, I try *not* to jump to my email every time I get a
notification of a new email.  :-)  That's darn hard, but it can be done.
If I'm really in crunch time, I'll close my email application altogether
and only open it once an hour or so, just to check work messages.  

-Carla
 

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Re: [TCP] Friday nuttiness...

2007-08-20 Thread Dana Worley
On Tuesday, August 21, 2007, Rhonda Bracey wrote: 

 Personally, I'd turn OFF the phone as soon as I got to the restaurant
 and all the parties had arrived. I *may* leave it on if someone in the
 group hadn't turned up or was running late, just in case I needed to
 call them or vice versa (Where are you?). But as soon as everyone is
 there, the phone goes OFF. Period.
 
 Is that just me? 

No. 

I get very annoyed when I am in a social situation like that and 
someone doesn't turn off their phone. I have a friend who I dearly 
love, but she will take calls, make calls, or check her blackberry for 
messages when we are out to dinner. I find it rude. Here you are 
supposedly engaged in a conversation with *me* but apparently, 
your mind is on something else or you are allowing yourself to be 
interrupted by something/someone else. Next time, please, take 
your phone to dinner and I'll stay home with a nice book  my cat.

Sometimes when my phone rings at home, I gasp! do not answer 
it. Especially if it is dinner time -- we have a no phone calls rule at 
dinner. If it rings, well there's an answering machine to take care of 
it. In a *real* emergency I'd like to think the caller has sense enough 
to leave a message.

Really, there is very little in life that is that important for the average 
guy. I read an article today about a man who was hit by a train 
because he had his head down looking at his cell phone. 
(Apparently he looked up and waited on one train, but then looked 
back down and walked right out in front of the other). How tragic. I'm 
sure whatever it was on his phone that had his attention, it wasn't 
worth his life.

Dana


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Re: [TCP] Friday nuttiness...

2007-08-20 Thread Dick Margulis
Dana Worley wrote:
 I read an article today about a man who was hit by a train 
 because he had his head down looking at his cell phone. 
 (Apparently he looked up and waited on one train, but then looked 
 back down and walked right out in front of the other). How tragic. 

Please don't hyperbolize so. Think in evolutionary terms. The guy's 
death is only tragic if he has already fathered children. Otherwise, it 
improves the species.


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