[TCP] css tutorials

2007-09-12 Thread Lisa Gielczyk (TCP)
Hello everyone,

I got my first call from a contracting agency with a job opportunity
this morning--unfortunately, I don't have the specific skill they're
looking for.

They wanted someone to do graphic cut ups with HTML and CSS. I know I
could learn how to do it, but they want someone tomorrow, and they
have other people they can call. It's only a two-week contract, so I'm
not losing much, but I'd like to be able to say, I can do that! next
time I get this kind of call.

There are very many css tutorials out there. Any suggestions for good
ones (meaning tutorials that you or someone you know have used
successfully)? I'll need some beginner ones, first, and I would like
to do the cut ups, too. Even if another job using that skill doesn't
come up, I might use them for my personal pages.

Any recommendations much appreciated!

Lisa Gielczyk
~rhymes with spellcheck~

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Re: [TCP] css tutorials

2007-09-12 Thread john
Best CSS tutorial for creating web pages I've found and used is at

http://www.subcide.com/tutorials/csslayout/

Excellent, fast, and tells you why, nit just how.


My 2¢,

John G



 Hello everyone,

 I got my first call from a contracting agency with a job opportunity
 this morning--unfortunately, I don't have the specific skill they're
 looking for.

 They wanted someone to do graphic cut ups with HTML and CSS. I know I
 could learn how to do it, but they want someone tomorrow, and they
 have other people they can call. It's only a two-week contract, so I'm
 not losing much, but I'd like to be able to say, I can do that! next
 time I get this kind of call.

 There are very many css tutorials out there. Any suggestions for good
 ones (meaning tutorials that you or someone you know have used
 successfully)? I'll need some beginner ones, first, and I would like
 to do the cut ups, too. Even if another job using that skill doesn't
 come up, I might use them for my personal pages.

 Any recommendations much appreciated!

 Lisa Gielczyk
 ~rhymes with spellcheck~

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Re: [TCP] css tutorials

2007-09-12 Thread Bonnie Granat
 I can't quickly find out by searching what graphic cut ups with HTML and
CSS means. Can you briefly state it in other terms?

Thanks,


Bonnie Granat
http://www.GranatEdit.com


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 Subject: [TCP] css tutorials
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 I got my first call from a contracting agency with a job opportunity
 this morning--unfortunately, I don't have the specific skill they're
 looking for.
 
 They wanted someone to do  I know I
 could learn how to do it, but they want someone tomorrow, and they
 have other people they can call. It's only a two-week contract, so I'm
 not losing much, but I'd like to be able to say, I can do that! next
 time I get this kind of call.
 
 There are very many css tutorials out there. Any suggestions for good
 ones (meaning tutorials that you or someone you know have used
 successfully)? I'll need some beginner ones, first, and I would like
 to do the cut ups, too. Even if another job using that skill doesn't
 come up, I might use them for my personal pages.
 
 Any recommendations much appreciated!
 
 Lisa Gielczyk
 ~rhymes with spellcheck~
 
 



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[TCP] css tutorials

2007-09-12 Thread Lisa Gielczyk (TCP)
It means cutting up a graphic and placing each piece inside a
frame I think. ;)

Does anyone else know for sure what it means?

Lisa Gielczyk
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On 9/12/07, Bonnie Granat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I can't quickly find out by searching what graphic cut ups with HTML and
 CSS means. Can you briefly state it in other terms?

 Thanks,


 Bonnie Granat
 http://www.GranatEdit.com


  -Original Message-
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lisa Gielczyk (TCP)
  Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:43 PM
  To: TCP List
  Subject: [TCP] css tutorials
 
  Hello everyone,
 
  I got my first call from a contracting agency with a job opportunity
  this morning--unfortunately, I don't have the specific skill they're
  looking for.
 
  They wanted someone to do  I know I
  could learn how to do it, but they want someone tomorrow, and they
  have other people they can call. It's only a two-week contract, so I'm
  not losing much, but I'd like to be able to say, I can do that! next
  time I get this kind of call.
 
  There are very many css tutorials out there. Any suggestions for good
  ones (meaning tutorials that you or someone you know have used
  successfully)? I'll need some beginner ones, first, and I would like
  to do the cut ups, too. Even if another job using that skill doesn't
  come up, I might use them for my personal pages.
 
  Any recommendations much appreciated!
 
  Lisa Gielczyk
  ~rhymes with spellcheck~
 




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Re: [TCP] css tutorials

2007-09-12 Thread Sue Heim
In the graphics world, creating cut ups means taking a graphic and removing
something (usually the background), so that just the graphical element
itself can be used. For example, if you wanted to take the graphic off of a
picture of a button or icon, you'd cut out the graphic. This is not
something that is done using CSS and HTML, but is instead done using
something like PhotoShop.

I'm not sure how you would do this in HTML, actually.

...sue



On 9/12/07, Bonnie Granat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I can't quickly find out by searching what graphic cut ups with HTML and
 CSS means. Can you briefly state it in other terms?

 Thanks,


 Bonnie Granat
 http://www.GranatEdit.com


  -Original Message-
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lisa Gielczyk (TCP)
  Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:43 PM
  To: TCP List
  Subject: [TCP] css tutorials
 
  Hello everyone,
 
  I got my first call from a contracting agency with a job opportunity
  this morning--unfortunately, I don't have the specific skill they're
  looking for.
 
  They wanted someone to do  I know I
  could learn how to do it, but they want someone tomorrow, and they
  have other people they can call. It's only a two-week contract, so I'm
  not losing much, but I'd like to be able to say, I can do that! next
  time I get this kind of call.
 
  There are very many css tutorials out there. Any suggestions for good
  ones (meaning tutorials that you or someone you know have used
  successfully)? I'll need some beginner ones, first, and I would like
  to do the cut ups, too. Even if another job using that skill doesn't
  come up, I might use them for my personal pages.
 
  Any recommendations much appreciated!
 
  Lisa Gielczyk
  ~rhymes with spellcheck~
 




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Re: [TCP] css tutorials

2007-09-12 Thread Bonnie Granat
Thanks. It may refer to placing parts of large graphic into separate divs
that are floated so that subsequent divs appear to the right of the first
one and the picture as a whole loads faster in a Web browser. Floating a
div means just telling it to begin where the one before it stopped. 


Bonnie Granat
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 It means cutting up a graphic and placing each piece inside a
 frame I think. ;)
 
 Does anyone else know for sure what it means?
 
 Lisa Gielczyk
 ~rhymes with spellcheck~
 



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Re: [TCP] css tutorials

2007-09-12 Thread Charles Beck
W3Schools (www.w3schools.com) My favorite, at all levels. Also provides
GREAT reference pages about all things Web-related.

Chuck Beck

Sr. Technical Writer | Infor | Office: 614.523.7302 |
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Subject: [TCP] css tutorials

Hello everyone,

I got my first call from a contracting agency with a job opportunity
this morning--unfortunately, I don't have the specific skill they're
looking for.

They wanted someone to do graphic cut ups with HTML and CSS. I know I
could learn how to do it, but they want someone tomorrow, and they have
other people they can call. It's only a two-week contract, so I'm not
losing much, but I'd like to be able to say, I can do that! next time
I get this kind of call.

There are very many css tutorials out there. Any suggestions for good
ones (meaning tutorials that you or someone you know have used
successfully)? I'll need some beginner ones, first, and I would like to
do the cut ups, too. Even if another job using that skill doesn't come
up, I might use them for my personal pages.

Any recommendations much appreciated!

Lisa Gielczyk
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Re: [TCP] css tutorials

2007-09-12 Thread john
I think it's more cutting up graphics into small pieces that will enable
them to load faster. No frames (it's a loaded term). Often they fit into
small components, possibly table cells (old style), or CSS divs (new
style).

Also there are usually slightly different images for things like selected,
mouse-over, visited, etc.

My 2¢,

JG





 It means cutting up a graphic and placing each piece inside a
 frame I think. ;)


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Re: [TCP] css tutorials

2007-09-12 Thread Lisa Gielczyk (TCP)
What method replaced it?


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Re: [TCP] css tutorials

2007-09-12 Thread Chris Borokowski
As it turns out, putting up one big image is faster.

The exception is if you have 4-5 high speed servers at your disposal
and even then, for the average user, the difference is minimal.

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Re: [TCP] css tutorials

2007-09-12 Thread Lisa Gielczyk (TCP)
So, why do you suppose this company wants it done? For using different
images on hover, click, etc.?


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 As it turns out, putting up one big image is faster.

 The exception is if you have 4-5 high speed servers at your disposal
 and even then, for the average user, the difference is minimal.

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  What method replaced it?


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Re: [TCP] css tutorials

2007-09-12 Thread Evans, Diane L (Rosetta)
So, why do you suppose this company wants it done? For using different
images on hover, click, etc.? 

In my experience, this kind of oddball request is because that's how
our last person did it.  No one has studied current practices, or
suggested anything different.

If I had received this kind of phone call, I would have asked a few
questions.  Explain what that means.  Why does the company do it that
way?  Have they considered  ?  Often, the recruiter will stop and
pause, not having an answer.  In that case, I ask for the interview so
that I can understand the job better.

Just my not-so-humble experience.

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Re: [TCP] css tutorials

2007-09-12 Thread Chris Borokowski
I've had good luck with this as well. Have you considered doing it
this way, for this reason? works very well, if it's not a massive
change that involves buying new stuff.

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 questions.  Explain what that means.  Why does the company do it
 that
 way?  Have they considered  ?  Often, the recruiter will stop
 and
 pause, not having an answer.  

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Re: [TCP] css tutorials

2007-09-12 Thread Chris Borokowski
Possibly for rollovers, or they're just using older information.
Someone told them once they should cut up every image, so they've
patiently done it ever since, even if it hasn't helped them.

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